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  • tomhoward
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    When old trumpy campaigned about “a wall” he meant it metaphorically didn’t he.

    I dunno, the only way I can see him getting out of this completely unscathed is if construction starts around 1600 Pennsylvania Ave ASAP. Maybe with a moat and drawbridge. And ramparts.

    AD
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    And now appealing to the evangelicals!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45340275

    Just wow.

    mikewsmith
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    Yep turnout is a massive threat to them at the moment, As proved it’s easier to  motivate people to vote against something than for it and at the moment he has pissed off a lot of people and that is before Manefort gets his trial before the election

    kimbers
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    at the very least you have to wonder what will happen to his children.

    The Donald J Trump  foundation; trump & his children -Eric, Jr &  Ivanka are all being investigated by the New York state for “persistent illegal conduct”

    they are looking into multiple offences over decades, its bad for Trump because he cant just fire all the DAs in new york the way he could in theory fire Meuller or even sessions also he cant pardon people for state crimes,

    the question is will they flip on their own dad, the way every other friend & associate seems to have?

    willard
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    Remember, blood is thicker than water. You don’t roll over on blood.

    maccruiskeen
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    Remember, blood is thicker than water.

    Unfortunately… that phrase means the exact opposite of what most people think it does

    Its a contraction of “The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.” and means that bonds built in battle or adversity are stronger than mere family ties.

    maccruiskeen
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    Coyote
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    Thanks for the explanation maccruiskeen, very interesting. Amazing how many people, including me, think that it’s the other way round.

    mikewsmith
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    Remember, blood is thicker than water. You don’t roll over on blood.

    Faced with you in prison or your dad who got you into it all?

    I’d only ever expect to see a full on every man woman and child for themselves you can expect from a bunch of estate agents.

    willard
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    Indeed, I never knew the origin of the saying, so thank you.

    I’m not too sure that his family would roll over, but the people that married into it might.

    brakes
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    this is some interesting analysis for the mid-terms….

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45013748

    but I wouldn’t bet a dollar on it being an accurate prediction.

    maccruiskeen
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    Indeed, I never knew the origin of the saying, so thank you.

    theres one or two sayings like that where the meaning or use has somehow reversed over the years. “A watched pot never boils” being another one. Somehow the word “over” has fallen off the end and flipped the intended meaning.

    Also see “Would” and, errr,  “Wouldn’t”

    🙂

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Some more analysis here

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/

    Some good reads and listens too

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    Theres one or two sayings like that where the meaning or use has somehow reversed over the years.

    ‘Charity begins at home’ being another. ‘But doesn’t end there’ is the end of the full saying.

    Klunk
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    I’m not too sure that his family would roll over.

    the thought of even just a year in ADX Florence is probably enough to loosen the tongue 😉

    dissonance
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    Faced with you in prison or your dad who got you into it all?

    I would also say it depends on how much they take after him. Since whilst I am not sure they would flip on him I am certain he would on them.

    GrahamS
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    For someone who only hires “the best people” he sure goes through a lot of them.

    mikewsmith
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    I think that sums up which side he is on there!! Not a fan of his boss or just working out how late he is going to have to stay to sort that one out.

    andy8442
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    Any good news folks?

    slowoldman
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    Yes, all the above.

    mikewsmith
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    More leaving, more flipping, more evidence collected.

    Plenty of good news, lets see how the polls turn over the next month.

    MSP
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    He is starting a war with the WTO now, he must be really desperate to distract.

    Also an extra destabilization of post brexit Britain’s trade fantasy.

    somafunk
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    Just the first of the mentally inadequate to issue threats but have a browse on twitter and there appears to be an alarming amount of gun-toting nut jobs all to willing to raise arms to protect their leader.

    sad…so sad

    Pigface
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    I am no Nostradamus but I did predict something like this or worse would happen a few pages back.

    mattyfez
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    I just caught by accident part of John mcains funeral service, Obamas eulogy was quite moving and quite contrasting to the attitude of the Donald.

    I wonder why they didn’t invite the Donald to the funeral? Bush and Clinton were there…

    dudeofdoom
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    Alledgedly Don McGahn didn’t resign thou ,must be weird getting the sack via tweet.

    mattyfez
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    ?

    nickc
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    I wonder why they didn’t invite the Donald to the funeral?

    MCain specifically barred him from coming  didn’t want him there

    mattyfez
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    Yeh I know . . It was a sarcastic rhetorical question 🙂

    CountZero
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    Telling article in the Daily Intelligencer on what a snob dTrump actually is. He loathes and detests his supporters, but needs their support and adoration.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/coastal-snob-trump-mocks-sessions-alabama-accent-degree.html?utm_campaign=slate&utm_medium=y1&utm_source=fb

    There’s a really good comment in the comments section, pretty much says everything about dTrump that needs saying, I certainly couldn’t have put it better myself:

    Trump has never been a populist, and he should not be labelled as one. Trump is first and always a Trumpist. One of many reasons Trump hates Obama is that Obama has a genuine earned Ivy League pedigree, including being voted head of the Harvard Law Review by his fellow students. Hillary graduated from Yale. Trump fears anyone who might know more about a subject than he does. It’s hard to maintain a fantasy of being a genius when you have no idea what people are talking about on any of the subjects a President must deal with daily. He hired incompetents for his Cabinet so he wouldn’t feel threatened by them; Giuliani is an asset to Trump onlly in that he is so loony, he sometimes make Trump seem almost reasonable.Trump’s presidency is, for him, not about service to the country, but about making himself feel powerful and important and admired. Thus the repeated rallies, stoking hostility toward “them” (that is, anyone who sees Trump for the fraud he really is). The obsession with crowd size, the craving for a parade, etc. You can’t go wrong figuring out Trump if you remember, whatever the topic, it is always about him. Having got himself into a job for which he lacks all inecessary skills, he is too brittle a personality to admit a mistake and resign. He’s a miserable, hateful, transparent imposter. A good con man would know when it’s time to drop the game and move on down the road.

    convert
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-45383800/john-mccain-obama-on-last-laugh-of-former-political-rival

    Listening and watching this reminded me what we are missing. What a true leader sounds like and how they respect those of opposing views.

    Of course at this point I should respect Trump in a similar manner but I’m not half the man Obama is. I hope Trump dies soon. I don’t don’t care how; we just need rid.

    It’s going to be a long time before I hear an American voice and don’t think there is a fair to middling chance it’s owner considered Trump a suitable candidate for leader of their nation and wish them ill.

    dissonance
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    It’s going to be a long time before I hear an American voice

    Just remember out of those who voted the orange numpty didnt manage a majority. So its always going to be a minority that they voted for the idiot. Admittedly out of the yanks I work with I am happy all of them are clear that they aint happy about the muppet.

    Sadly though I suspect the fact he was excluded for being a **** will be spun into the thats the problem with the “deep state” or some other nutty conspiracy theory.

    dudeofdoom
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    Alledgedly Don McGahn didn’t resign thou ,must be weird getting the sack via tweet.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/us/politics/don-mcgahn-white-house-counsel-trump.html

    Does look like he was planning to go anyway so not as bad.

    andy8442
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    It’s lunch time over there. He must be gone by now!

    leffeboy
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    don’t think there is a fair to middling chance it’s owner considered Trump a suitable candidate for leader of their nation

    Always remember that their option was Hilary.  Their choice was between almost certainly being shafted and probably being shafted.  It wasn’t a great choice really 🙁

    somafunk
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    Just been listening to Eddie Mair on LBC interviewing someone about Bob Woodwards book (fear) about the Trump Presidency and it sounds like a cracking read, here’s a few excerpts below

    White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly frequently lost his temper and told colleagues that he thought the president was “unhinged,” Woodward writes. In one small group meeting, Kelly said of Trump: “He’s an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I’ve ever had.”

    A near-constant subject of withering presidential attacks was Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Trump told Porter that Sessions was a “traitor” for recusing himself from overseeing the Russia investigation, Woodward writes. Mocking Sessions’s accent, Trump added, “This guy is mentally retarded. He’s this dumb Southerner. … He couldn’t even be a one-person country lawyer down in Alabama.”
    When Cohn met with Trump to deliver his resignation letter after Charlottesville, the president told him, “This is treason,” and persuaded his economic adviser to stay on. Kelly then confided to Cohn that he shared Cohn’s horror at Trump’s handling of the tragedy — and shared Cohn’s fury with Trump. “I would have taken that resignation letter and shoved it up his ass six different times,” Kelly told Cohn, according to Woodward. Kelly himself has threatened to quit several times, but has not done so.
    The book vividly recounts the ongoing debate between Trump and his lawyers about whether the president would sit for an interview with Mueller. On March 5, Dowd and Trump attorney Jay Sekulow met in Mueller’s office with the special counsel and his deputy, James Quarles, where Dowd and Sekulow reenacted Trump’s January practice session. Dowd then explained to Mueller and Quarles why he was trying to keep the president from testifying: “I’m not going to sit there and let him look like an idiot. And you publish that transcript, because everything leaks in Washington, and the guys overseas are going to say, ‘I told you he was an idiot. I told you he was a goddamn dumbbell. What are we dealing with this idiot for?’
    “John, I understand,” Mueller replied, according to Woodward.
    Later that month, Dowd told Trump: “Don’t testify. It’s either that or an orange jumpsuit.”
    But Trump, concerned about the optics of a president refusing to testify and convinced that he could handle Mueller’s questions, had by then decided otherwise.
    “I’ll be a real good witness,” Trump told Dowd, according to Woodward.
    “You are not a good witness,” Dowd replied. “Mr. President, I’m afraid I just can’t help you.”
    The next morning, Dowd resigned.

    I can’t wait for the tweets from the orange bawbag, he’s gonna go off on one like a 6ft catherine wheel doused in petrol.

    mikewsmith
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    So the main reason to work for Trump is just to see how bad the shit show has got in there?

    If it wasn’t for being tarnished by association it would almost be worth a go, you know just how well can you dig him out of stuff, how much can you expand your legal knowledge etc.

    maccruiskeen
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    it would almost be worth a go

    At the rate of turn over it’ll be like jury service, we’ll all have to have a go.

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