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  • nickjb
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    Helicopters in films where the pilot is injured or shot dead, and the instruments start talking “head up, terrain..terrain..danger, terrain..”

    Out of interest what is wrong with that? I’ve certainly been in a light aircraft that did that. Pilot wasn’t shot, but we did land on a private strip that wasn’t on the map so got terrain warnings all the way in.

    n0b0dy0ftheg0at
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    All those shooting scenes where characters are protected from the bullets by hiding behind a car… Good luck with that in real life! 😉

    Cougar
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    It compliments skin tone – so for as long as the humans in films have skin on them the sets are going to be orange and teal

    If your cast is oompa lumpas maybe, or you’re filming TOWIE.

    I know exactly WHY they do it, it’s just really tedious, artificial and incredibly overused.

    kilo
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    All those shooting scenes where characters are protected from the bullets by hiding behind a car… Good luck with that in real life! 😉

    Here you go (although it does also expose the movie lie of people being able to hit the target with a handgun when stressed 😉

    Stevet1
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    Database searches for fingerprints or facial recognition etc where the screen flashes an image up of every single record until it finds the one that matches. Like the computer was flicking through an album.

    FuzzyWuzzy
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    Pretty much any film with a computer hacking scene in it

    mashr
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    bikebouy

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    Noise and explosions in space

    Well, both Gravity and Interstellar fixed this gaff and to mighty good effect too…

    and then First Man ruined it with Gemini 8 sounding like a turbofan starting up every time something happened to it

    hols2
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    All those shooting scenes where characters are protected from the bullets by hiding behind a car… Good luck with that in real life!

    I think the point is that the other guy can’t aim at you if he can’t see you. It’s kinda like hiding behind a hedge or bush. It won’t stop a bullet, but your chances of being hit are much lower if the other guy can’t see you. For example:
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    DezB
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    Pretty much any film with a computer hacking scene in it

    Oh my lordy! How could I have forgotten the one thing that bugs me most in films!
    Computer noises! beep bi beep bip beep every single time something appears on screen! Every single sodding film! beep bip bipbi bi beep bippity bip! HAve you EVER seen a computer screen that does this?? I bleeding haven’t! Why oh why!?! It’s so stupid.

    Only exception I know of is those “Unfriended” horror films. They were nonsense, but I loved them purely cos the only thing near to screen beeps was occasional clackety clack of typing.

    Cougar
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    Pretty much any film with a computer hacking scene in it

    Eddie Izzard did a great take on this. “Hacking in to the Pentagon computer… double-click on ‘yes’… ”

    (NSFW warning, contains swears)

    retro83
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    DezB
    Only exception I know of is those “Unfriended” horror films. They were nonsense, but I loved them purely cos the only thing near to screen beeps was occasional clackety clack of typing.

    Matrix Reloaded has a fairly accurate hacking scene. SSH exploit (pause at 00:03) :

    surroundedbyhills
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    More on guns: people using AK 47 or AR 15 and emptying entire magazines into a car or shed for example, only for the goodie to step out and take out the baddie with a snub nose .38 or .22. (or worse… someone takes a round from a AK47 in the leg for example and walks away, that is a big fn calibre and will shatter bones!)

    Not only from a distance are these things woefully in accurate but there are plenty of real life reports of people being shot multiple time with .38 or even bigger and managing to flee the scene.

    +1 for car chase downshifts, ending phonecalls without saying goodbye or similar, blip blip car alarms.

    willard
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    Short barrels generally means a lot of power loss and much worse accuracy. There are tales* of wet army greatcoats being able to stop the 9mm rounds from a Sterling SMG. I’m not sure I would want to try it, but you get the idea.

    One thing that really started to annoy me was the way that travelling is depicted in most Hollywood films’ cutaway scenes. It’s always in one direction… Cars , trains, you name it, all seem to go left to right.

    DezB
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    Matrix Reloaded

    Trust the Matrix sequel to provide the gritty realism we so desire. Bip bip bippity sqwauk

    crazy-legs
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    Pretty much any film with a computer hacking scene in it

    Cue scene of character stating intently at the screen while a reflection of lines of scrolling code can be seen in their glasses. They’re always wearing glasses.

    DezB
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    More on guns

    Do you realise how you “I know more about real gunz than everybody else” people come across?
    I’ll give you a clue. One of the earliest internet memes, before memes was even a word. You’re fat, you’re hairy, you’re lying on a bed carressing your big rifle*.

    *I misremembered – it’s a lovely pistol resting on your hairy thigh.

    perchypanther
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    a Sterling SMG

    The most inaccurate firearm in the entire Galaxy…….

    molgrips
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    Computers that beeb and burble: This dates from the days of teletypes, I think, where they made noises (remember the football results one?). A combination of this and low-speed serial transmission that you could hear via short wave radio.

    Flashing lights: This goes back all the way to ENIAC I think, where the output from its programs was displayed on a panel with rows of lights that lit up to display numbers in binary. It amuses me that in Alien which is otherwise a great looking film despite its age still their ship computer has a display like this 🙂 Of course entirely understandable; there’s no excuse these days.

    I think there are a few reasons why computer screen still show rubbish even in an era where everyone uses computers.

    1) TV shows still make money with product placement, so they won’t show someone using actual Google for free. If Google haven’t paid up they’ll have a mock-up which looks just like Google but isn’t.

    2) Movies and TV obviously can’t be fully realistic – they have to convey plot points quickly and economically without labouring it via the dialogue, and also they need to show the actor’s faces at tense times and so on. So you get (for example) a spaceship scene which is a long shot of the bridge with the crew shitting themselves and the computer is reading out status messages like ‘shields at 15%’ or similar. If that was a close-up of a computer screen it’d be rubbish to watch. So in real life, you’d input a picture into a facial recognition database and it would say ‘thanks for your submission we will notify you when potential matches are found’ via a boring text interface and it’d eventually give a load of dodgy looking results which you’d have to sift through. If you did this in a typical TV show it’d totally kill the pace and you’d have to create a scene just to move the plot on. If you just show faces flashing up on a screen then going ‘beep beep match found’ then in a second you know what’s happened, and it hasn’t cost the company any money or time.

    But this raises a wider point about the meta-language we use in storytelling generally, both visually and in books. It’s built from cultural references, shared history and established conventions. If someone in a conversation makes a reference to tumbleweed in the Anglophone world we all know what it means despite most of us not having ever seen a real tumbleweed. Another similar one is the call of (I think) a Red-Tailed Hawk signifying wilderness and desperation, although this is pretty hackneyed now. But there are loads more. When a TV show cuts to a new scene in a different building they *always* show the exterior of the building first so you know what’s happening.

    But they do similar things with the actual plot as well not just visuals. They build the story in a way we’re used to it being built. This is how we are able to half-watch a typical show whilst doing something else and still follow it – we are able to pick out the important bits – e.g. we know when they are doing a recap scene and we will look up from STW for it.

    If you watch foreign TV, the conventions, references and tropes are different, which is why it can be fascinating. Once you start looking out for all these tricks and cues you’ll see them all over the place. The burbling computer or the status bar (like the virus uploading one), the screeching of tyres to show urgency, the pointing of guns at faces (despite them never going to be fired) and so on are all visual cues. Other things like the maverick cop, the geeky but brilliant young female recruit, the nerd, the old cop a week from retirement, the shouty black police chief, they are all there deliberately to make everything familiar so we can piece the story together without really having to concentrate much.

    I love this topic!

    amedias
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    Pretty much any film with a computer hacking scene in it

    hols2
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    they are all there deliberately to make everything familiar so we can piece the story together without really having to concentrate much.

    No, they are all there so lazy scriptwriters can piece a story together without really having to concentrate much.

    PhilO
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    In any period piece with a night-scene, there are aways a load of miraculously bright candles already burning in any room entered by the characters. Not only were candles really, really expensive, you’ve have to be a complete idiot to leave one (never mind a dozen) burning unattended by the curtains in a timber-framed house.

    IdleJon
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    In Goldeneye: the giant satellite dish under the lake in Cuba……..

    Bond films are so ridiculously cartoonish that I wonder why any sensible adult watches them. I recently saw part of one where Bond and the token ‘girl’ escaped through tunnels while a rocket launched directly above them. Good job they could run quicker than a rocket backdraft moves.. Also, one of the recent ones where the villains are using the London tube network to do whatever. By the magic of modern technology the goodies managed to watch the baddies on CCTV all through the network, but couldn’t turn off power to the trains stranding the baddies in a tunnel.

    IdleJon
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    In any period piece with a night-scene, there are aways a load of miraculously bright candles already burning in any room entered by the characters. Not only were candles really, really expensive, you’ve have to be a complete idiot to leave one (never mind a dozen) burning unattended by the curtains in a timber-framed house.

    But in Wolf Hall, when they tried to show dimly lit candlelight scenes there were loads of complaints because viewers’ screens were so dark.

    maccruiskeen
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    If your cast is oompa lumpas maybe, or you’re filming TOWIE.

    Actually theres another reason. If you’ve got any visible light sources they’ll almost always be orange or giving off a orange cast – table lamps, candles, fire brands depending on the era you’re depicting. So even if nothing in the room is orange one of the colours on screen is and that needs to be balanced. Sometimes the set isn’t teal either, some of the shoots I’ve worked on the set is actually a mid grey but once its lit with a mixture of practical lights (light sources that are in vision) and ‘natural’ light (the 6KW lamps shining in through the windows) and the various other lights that are modelling the space they appear to be teal on screen. You read the room as being painted white but the play of light and shadow means actual colours on the screen will be orange and teal.

    andylc
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    Star Wars is kind of hilarious. In a technologically advanced galaxy they have guns where the projectile is so slow (and bright red) you can see it coming and dodge…

    Cougar
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    blip blip car alarms.

    Ubiquitous in the US, I don’t think I’ve been in a car in recent times that didn’t go “blip blip” when you lock it.

    I think there are a few reasons why computer screen still show rubbish even in an era where everyone uses computers.

    Honorary shout-out here to Mr Robot, all the tech they use is real. I read an interview with the director(?) once, he said that if a situation arose where the tech and the plot clashed, they amended the plot.

    nickc
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    Bond films are so ridiculously cartoonish that I wonder why any sensible adult watches them.

    He who is tired of Bond, is tired of life.

    Samuel Johnson 1777. 

    molgrips
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    No, they are all there so lazy scriptwriters can piece a story together without really having to concentrate much.

    A bit of both, but it’s also so the audience doesn’t have to concentrate much. Realistic romance novels are available, but the public still massively buys the stupidly clichéd ones.

    Re hacking. It also occurs to me that they don’t want realistic hacking portrayed as people might actually be able to learn from it. Likewise forensic science. I suspect there are deliberate mistakes in stuff like CSI to throw people off…

    tnrbilly
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    Any film* or tv programme which to tries to include the characters playing football. Just don’t. It always looks pathetic.
    * Except Escape to Victory which is of course brilliant. Especially Pele’s overhead kick with a broken arm.

    DezB
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    Bond films are so ridiculously cartoonish that I wonder why any sensible adult watches them.

    They’re shit, but they’re Storyville compared to Fast & Furious films.

    molgrips
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    Another one – why, when there’s a red alert, does everything go dark and red? I mean the ‘red’ part of red alert is surely metaphorical? Why, when people presumably have to rush around doing things on an emergency basis, would you dim the lights?

    perchypanther
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    Another one – why, when there’s a red alert, does everything go dark and red?

    …because if they went to purple alert instead it’d mean changing the bulb?

    svladcjelli
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    Star Wars is kind of hilarious. In a technologically advanced galaxy they have guns where the projectile is so slow (and bright red) you can see it coming and dodge…

    But shirley most Hollywood gunfights have guns that fire bullets that travel so slowly that hero has time to duck down behind a wall before the bullet ptwang’s against said wall (as if baddie had actually aimed to hit the wall rather than the hero)?

    perchypanther
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    Star Wars is kind of hilarious. In a technologically advanced galaxy they have guns where the projectile is so slow (and bright red) you can see it coming and dodge…

    Tell that to Greedo.

    DezB
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    That pause before someone kills the hero. Or doesn’t cos they paused, or monologued and gave the hero a chance to grab a nearby pistol/knife/piece of glass/shoe/hamster and defend themselves with it.

    dissonance
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    It also occurs to me that they don’t want realistic hacking portrayed as people might actually be able to learn from it

    Finding information about hacking isnt exactly overly difficult. Anyone so motivated could get started in less time than it takes to watch a movie for inspiration.

    IdleJon
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    Bond films are so ridiculously cartoonish that I wonder why any sensible adult watches them.

    They’re shit, but they’re Storyville compared to Fast & Furious films.

    Everyone agrees that F&F films are rubbish. People seem to take Bond seriously, as if they mean something. They have news reports about Bond films, and media discussions about the next Bond actor. Concerts of Bond music. Mind you, they do that for Star Wars as well. 😁

    tjagain
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    here is a good one:

    Frogs going “ribbit ribbit” there is only one species of frog in the world that does this – the rest go “croak” Where does that one species live? Hollywood! But now everyone thinks all frogs go “ribbit ribbit” so anytime you need a frong sound it has to be Ribbit ribbit not croak !

    molgrips
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    Finding information about hacking isnt exactly overly difficult. Anyone so motivated could get started in less time than it takes to watch a movie for inspiration.

    But many people might assume it’s hard until they see it done realistically in a movie. By making hacking so ludicrous in movies it preserves a bit of mystique I think.

    forzafkawi
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    The bomb ALWAYS gets disarmed with one second to go. Oh! the tension…

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