Darkside – touring bike cum Winter bike
Been having a bit of a ponder and I know this is the best place to ask. 🙂
I have a road bike which I have no intention of riding in the Winter due to much mud on roads from farm vehicles etc. It’s also very light and, quite frankly, I want to keep it looking good.
At some point I would like a touring bike (already have rack and panniers) and was wondering whether it could be used as a Winter bike. Immediate thought is steel (but would love Ti, ahem).
Does this sound a sensible proposition?
As always, thanks very much. 🙂Posted 6 years agostAn-Bad Brains MBCMember
I’ve got the 2009 (green) version – superb bike. Bob a Brooks saddle on it and you’re more than sorted.
Used it almost daily for the past 18 months, commuting, touring and the odd century ride. Love it.
It handled last years snow very well.
I beg to differ on a few points above – a tourer is not just a winter bike with panniers/racks etc. A dedicated touring bike will have a slightly lower bottom bracket for stability, a slightly more upright riding position, rear triangle will be built to accomodate a rack and pannier ( some road bikes rear end are that short that when you fit a pannier you catch your heels as you pedal), the gears will be more than likely be a triple chainset with a wider ratio cassette than most road bikes. It will also be be built for comfort, reliability and strength rather than speed.
Have a look at Kona Sutra, Salsa Fargo and Surly Long Haul Trucker – bit different to ‘just a winter bike with panniers’.
and as for off-road – no I didn’t buy mine for going off-road. But those cross tyres were cheap and , well you can guess the rest.Posted 6 years agoBlackhoundSubscriber
Cotic Roadrat? Been meaning to sell my medium as a frame/fork or as a bike. pm if interested.
I have just replaced it with a Forme Plateau (Aly frame carbon fork) which does not do discs but is nearly 10% quicker for the same effort. Has mudguard and rack mounts.Posted 6 years agoourmaninthenorthSubscriber
Winter and Touring bikes are, if we’re splitting hairs, not the same. But they can each do both jobs quite nicely.
Oh, and what’s wrong with riding road bikes off road..? I make a point of it.
EDIT: addressing the question a little more, I’d ask yourself which is more important: touring or “winter training”? For me, it’s the latter, so the tourinjg capabilities of my bike are limited.
If that’s your angle, then have a look at the perennial Ribble Audax.
Posted 6 years agorootes1Member
in some ways a touring bike is a great all round bike for cycling.
Ridgeback do a nice range than come with guards and racks etc
all they need is dynamo (hub) system
deals to be had on Dawes Galaxy as wellPosted 6 years ago
Sell that lightweight road bike, cos unless you’re racing it’s pointless.
And get yerself something like a CX bike with rack mounts. More models are now coming with discs.
Here’s a nice one:
And it’s only eight hundred and fifty pounds.
More comfy geometry, better brakes, more versatile.Posted 6 years agodirtygirlonabikeMember
I bought a kinesis tripster for touring/winter road riding/cx riding. Sadly it is too big for me so I am selling it/turning it into a commuter and buying a custom frame instead. 😳
You may have a problem finding something that fits depending on how tall you are/requirements – i wanted disks, mounts for mudguards and rack, plus clearance for cx/touring tyres as well as running 23s for winter rides, but couldn’t find anything small enough that ticked all the boxes.
I considered and discounted the kona sutra on weight. Also considered the kaffenback (too big for me) and the salsa vaya (i wanted 700c wheels and the frame which would have fitted me came with 26″)Posted 6 years agoloumMember
How a bout an on-one pompetamine, it has discs, steel frame and winter-proof hub gears. 800/1200 for 8 or 11 gears.
Posted 6 years agocrazy-legsSubscriber
That Jamis has bar end shifters……I ride on the hoods in town, why would they put the gear changing down there? Deal-breaker.
Some touring bikes still use bar end shifters cos they don’t interfere with handlebar-mounted bags. The cables and the lever movement on STI’s often catch on barbags so a lot of touring riders don’t like them.
(less of an issue now that all manufacturers route all their cables next to the bar but older Shimano stuff with the side cables was always a problem).Posted 6 years ago
Wow, lots of replies and suggestions, thanks!
OK, its main purpose would be for touring, maximum trip a week, so that means one pair of half-empty panniers. Priority would need to be comfort hence Ti would be brilliant but realistically steel would just have to do.
I guess for Winter duties it would just be a means of maintaining stamina.
Lots to think about but, one thing’s for sure, the road bike is staying but the full suss would unfortunately have to go!Posted 6 years agoTiRedMember
In the above photos, take a look at the gap between tyre and seat tube. Then it is easy to spot the tourers.
Just buy an 853 Dawes Ultra Galaxy and grow a beard during your travels.
EDIT: that beard might take a while 😳 . Glad you are back to biking. But still get a Galaxy. Tourers and road bikes are related, but they very definitely are not the same: Road -> Audax (Winter) -> RoadPosted 6 years agoVortexracingSubscriber
I have just bought one of these. Has rear rack mounts will take a 28mm tyre and full mudguards.
Weighs 18lbs with pedals
probably alright for ‘light touring’ (ie using just rear rack) and I’m using it as my one and only road bike for commuting, winter rides, training and out with the lads on Road rides.
Paul Hewitt did the fitting and built the bike and I must say it’s great, so comfy. Thats probably a mixture of 28 tyres, Hewitt fitting and a nice frame/fork.
I’m only short (5ft 4″) not sure of your height CG but if you fancy a try you can always borrow it.Posted 6 years agoSue_WMember
c_g: yey! Welcome to the winter roadie / touring club 🙂 I got the ‘Adventure Cycle-Touring Handbook’ for Christmas and am currently half-way across Russia (albeit whilst remaining tucked up under the duvet!)
Not wanting to get too personal, but the factor which I found most important was whether you are (ahem) female proportioned – ie relatively long legs and a proportionally shorter torso. I am (along with being a diminuative 5′) and found that the biggest issue re touring bikes as it’s pretty harder to get a women’s specific one (which isn’t some god-awful step-through frame). Above all, fit and comfort is far more important than anything else, as you’re going to be sat on it for hours and hours, day in, day out. So try as many as you can, and even consider a custom built frame (which to be honest is something I’d consider in the future).
Let us know what you get!Posted 6 years agoVortexracingSubscriber
even consider a custom built frame
TBH Sue if they hadn’t got this XS Carbon Alpine, I was going to get that very thing in steel from Paul Hewitt. The 12 week waiting list was a big consideration, but he rekons he can get a very light, extemely comfy bike built exactly the way you want it.
It is well worth considering CG.
The price was about £950 for frame and forks built in columbus steel if I recall correctly.Posted 6 years ago
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