Boring car question 'warm' hatchbacks.
Currently have a 59 mazda 6 diesel estate which is great to drive and big but is a high miler with some very expensive shakes and rattles so I want to replace it soon. I only really need the estateness when shifting bikes or moving houses and think a decent sized hatch with bike rack would be a better option.
I’m a 24 year old PhD student so can’t really afford anything too sporty due to insurance, but I’m currently looking at the 2.2 icdti civic or a 140bhp diesel focus (2007-2009ish models). I hear the civic is big and economical but the focus is better to drive and doesn’t have a clutch made of cheese.Posted 4 years ago
Anything else I should consider?chiefgrooveguruMember
Older style (EP3) civic type s. Should run and run with low running costs and the back will swallow 2 bikes with ease (I have the typeR version and the fold flat rear seats are genius). Might be cheaper to buy and to insure than a newer car?
I’ve had one of these for eight years and 105,000 miles (bought it as ex-demo 18 month old 10,000 miler) Apart from looking a bit dull I can’t really fault it! Well I suppose the rev limiter could kick in about 500 rpm higher, it’s still pulling hard when you hit the redline, but then again that would affect engine lifespan. And the front seat sliders could do with more rearward travel for tall people. I’ll be very sad when it dies, it looks rather battered on the outside but it’s mechanically bombproof and still a delight to drift around sliproads…Posted 4 years agostumpy01Member
If you are looking at the Fabia VRS, have a look at the Ibiza FR as well. Same car effectively, but seems to depreciate more so you can pick them up for less.
They also do a petrol version; the 150bhp 1.8T engine.
Or if you want a bit more oomph the Ibiza Cupra TDi has 160bhp and is about 2 secs quicker to 60 than the FR (or the Fabia VRS). Might not fit in budget though.Posted 4 years agomunrobikerMember
Seat Leon I reckon- when I was pondering a cheap car the Civics were knackered at that price but the Leons were newer and lower mileage. I didn’t like the drive of the Focuses but they are vast inside with the seats down.
I’ve used a guy at work’s older 1 series and by god it’s awful- 2011 model, so old shape- uncomfortable, weird interior and a very uninspiring drive.
I love my Fabia- the inside is quite bland but easy to use and feels quality, and mine’s not the VRS but has the sport spenkshuns and drives very nicely. Also does 65mpg most days without being too much of a jessie. It’s also pretty big inside- almost as big as Doris was but without the disadvantage of the sloping rear window. I can get a bike box in there easy. They’re also cheap to buy, cheap to tax and cheap to insure. Much more so than a 2.2 bigger hatch.Posted 4 years agoretro83Member
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^Civics are lovely practical cars. I could get my road bike in like this but you’d struggle to get a mountain bike in across the back without taking at least one wheel off.
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Focus seats fold flat the other way so you get a nice big boot.
Couldn’t find a pic so this is a Corolla, but it’s the same deal.
I get two bikes easily in mine standing upright with jst their front wheels removedPosted 4 years agobensalesMember
2007 Fiesta ST. I still love the guy at Ford who though it was a good idea to put a 2 litre Mondeo engine in a Fiesta. Whenever I looked under the bonnet I’m still not sure how they got it in there.
Great fun to drive, 40mpg if sensible, and looks good. 150bhp, so not quite hot but still pretty nippy. Can get a couple of bikes in with the seats down.Posted 4 years agobuzz-lightyearMember
I’ve had one of these for eight years and 105,000 miles (bought it as ex-demo 18 month old 10,000 miler) Apart from looking a bit dull I can’t really fault it! Well I suppose the rev limiter could kick in about 500 rpm higher, it’s still pulling hard when you hit the redline, but then again that would affect engine lifespan. And the front seat sliders could do with more rearward travel for tall people. I’ll be very sad when it dies, it looks rather battered on the outside but it’s mechanically bombproof and still a delight to drift around sliproads…
I have one. This is very true.Posted 4 years agostuartie_cMember
Currently on second Leon. Love ’em!
First was TDI Cupra. Great motor but had got to the “tipping point” in terms of financial sustainability.
Traded in for FR which is great to drive. Bit quicker, equal fuel economy, more comfortable BUT the rear seats don’t fold forward as they did in the Cupra (with the seat backs still in place, if that makes sense) which means folding the seat backs forward instead = not as practical for carrying bikes. Will fit a tow bar which will be good for a trailer as well and get a bike rack to go on that.Posted 4 years ago
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