B'ham City council Grrrrrr (maybe) Help please
My mom has a (large) conifur tree at the bottom of her garden at the fence line. The roots have started to lift the tarmac pavement on the side of the fence which is a private road to garages and such. If we want it to be resurfaced we have to pay kinda thing.
Now the council have given her 28 days to sort it out or else. Can they do this? It does need to be done and is something we were planning to do in spring when weather and money are better.
Can i point out the numerous trees in the area that are on council land that have the same problem but more likley to injure someone and insist the fix all of these?Posted 6 years ago
A couple of questions!!
1. When you say the road is “private”- who’s is it?
If its not the Councils then they are unlikely to have any legal interest in the land and may be just chancing their arm. It will be the landowners responsibility and it is likely they would have to take private action against your mam to remedy unless you do it out of goodwill.
2. You say the Council have given you 28 days-how have they done this?
By letter (no real legal standing) then you could wait til spring or by Legal enforcement notice then it will have a compliance date but should also have some details of appeal rights
Really need more info to comment further
CheersPosted 6 years ago
The land is owned by my mom, the bit outside her garage to the middle of the road anyway.(in the deeds, can park untaxed cars on it and the google cars cant go down it ect)
They have given us 28 days by letter addresed to Occupier. (excuse my spelling) not a notice as far as i know.Posted 6 years ago
HiPosted 6 years ago
If it was me I would be asking them under what authority they are saying you have to do the work.
The letter should detail why and under what legisalation they are operating in this instance.
Councils have to work to set rules but sometimes try to chance it.
If its not a legal notice then you dont have to do the work in the timescale or maybe even at all, if it is ( and they are operating legally) then you do unless you appeal within the relevant time.
A letter is the first step in trying to get you to do something (there may have been a complaint made to them by one of the other land owners)but carries very little legal weight, if any!!!
They may be saying your mams land is a nuisance or is predjudicial to health etc etc but I am a bit surprised that they are bothering themselves
Sorry to be a bit vague but still a bit lacking in info
It is difficult to give advice on things like this without seeing the letter, but the council can legally enforce home owners and landlords to undertake work if it effects them, i.e. if a building in a city centre is in a bad state of disrepair then they will enforce the landlord to carry out works to renovate the property. If it is private land then the council have no authority to act it would have to be the owner of the land and they would need to go through the legal route to force you to do it. This would be a civil case and under Part 1.1 of the Civil Procedure Rules they would have to give you every chance to rectify the problem before issuing proceedings. If this is the case it would be worth contacting them and explaining that you are going to do it in the spring. In fact if it’s the council this may be a good course of action as well they are unlikely to take you to court if you’re going to do it in spring as it will cost and by the time it gets to court it will be nearly spring.Posted 6 years agoswamp_boyMember
Does the letter mention the Local Government [Miscellaneous Provisions] Act 1976? Section 23 gives councils powers to make owners deal with dangerous trees, if they don’t the council can do the work themselves and recover the money. However in my experience most are way too over burdened to bother with trip hazards on private land, it does sound a bit dodgy. Bit odd that it seems to have arrived just before nearly all the staff will be away for a long time.
Sounds well worth contacting squeeeezzz for a bit of background.Posted 6 years agoringothegringoMember
I am also a County Borough Tree Officer so may be able to offer some advice if needed – basically you will need to say which Dept. has issued the letter and what type of letter it is – is it a notice (it will say “Notice” on it if it is)? The letter should have a title which must also say which Act the “notice” has been served under, why it has been served and what the minimum remedial action must be. As a point of interest your Local Authority cannot carry out any works which would leave the tree in an unsafe state – for example severing the root if it leaves the tree unstable.Posted 6 years ago
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