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  • K
    Full Member

    I really think you need to find something else more productive to focus your energy on.

    damascus
    Free Member

    You just bought a brand new pair of wheels and you think the hub is broken so you are going to spend your own money replacing the hub??? Wtf???

    You will then have miss matched hubs unless you replace the front hub.

    If you think the wheel is not fit for purpose you should return them to the shop you bought them from, oh wait, you bought the cheap wheels from China.

    I’d suggest before you spend another couple of hundred quid you eat some humble pie and go visit your local bike shop and ask them to take a look at them. They might spot something wrong with them, they might spot you’ve cocked up or they might tell you it’s all in your head.

    If you replace the hubs then they are no longer a cheap pair of wheels and you Could have bought some named brand from a lbs with customer service and support.

    But cheap, buy twice.

    Go see your lbs first! Then let us know what they say. Make sure you tell us the truth! Good luck

    PS I think I’m a @yohandsome fanboi, he’s the funniest thing on stw! Proper cheered me up today. His threads just keep giving. Please tell me you have a YouTube channel documenting your pursuit of speed!

    Thankyou

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    OP – what did you use for balancing the wheels. Lead was always the “best” option but is now shunned on health grounds. Solder works well if it’s small adjustments.

    sl2000
    Full Member

    That’s just the wheel being out of balance, nothing to do with the hub.

    you think the hub is broken

    I too think the OP is barmy replacing the hub, and I don’t have a suggestion for him, but he does know what his problem is, and neither of the statements above are true. DT hubs do make an oscillating noise – it’s not caused by the wheel being out of balance. And the OP doesn’t think his hub is broken – he just doesn’t like the noise.

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    You just bought a brand new pair of wheels and you think the hub is broken so you are going to spend your own money replacing the hub??? Wtf???

    Not broken, just broken sounding :p

    You will then have miss matched hubs unless you replace the front hub.

    Could live with i that (maybe), or I could sell the old pair and get a new pair built on Hope hubs, but then I’d need to send them to China at which point Carbon-ti’s would cost the same.

    I’d suggest before you spend another couple of hundred quid you eat some humble pie and go visit your local bike shop and ask them to take a look at them. They might spot something wrong with them, they might spot you’ve cocked up or they might tell you it’s all in your head.

    All DT ratchet hubs sound like this, design flaw I reckon, some think it’s due to uneven spring tension – it’s a known phenomena, but not as noticeable with lower teeth ratchets or MTB use.

    I wasn’t aware of this, and I didn’t estimate how much deep carbon rims and road use amplified noise, so I picked the wrong hubs/ratchets, plus my bike is an only child so it needs to be perrrfect.

    PS I think I’m a @yohandsome fanboi, he’s the funniest thing on stw! Proper cheered me up today. His threads just keep giving. Please tell me you have a YouTube channel documenting your pursuit of speed!

    I’m putting all my free time into STW posts as is..

    OP – what did you use for balancing the wheels. Lead was always the “best” option but is now shunned on health grounds. Solder works well if it’s small adjustments.

    Lead golf weights about 3 grams each taped to the inside of the rim, what’s the health concern?

    13thfloormonk
    Full Member

    Kudos OP, you’re making my crusade against noisy disc brakes look somewhat rational! 😁

    K
    Full Member

    Ah, it all makes sense now. Golf…

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    Kudos OP, you’re making my crusade against noisy disc brakes look somewhat rational! 😁

    Started my own crusade here https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/sram-centerline-xr-rotors-with-shimano-105-road-calipers/ – rumors has it Swisstop’s Exotherm 2 organic pads are the best..(see how Shimano’s 1/3 of the price organic ones do first).

    tomaso
    Free Member

    Given that “broken” is a subjective values judgement in the OPs head and concerns a noise that DT hubs make (both my sets do this) it is clear he has bought the wrong hubs and wasted his money.

    The chances of buying a hub that meets your brain’s requirements and has same flange height is surely slim.

    What made you want a noisy ratchet hub in the first place?

    Chris King hubs make a right racket, but maybe it will not be a broken noise in your head?

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    YMMV but I had never heard an oscillating hub before and to me it sounds like it’s broken. I don’t think it’s a weird requirement, I think it’s weirder to think it sounds good.

    I wasn’t aware how much road use+carbon rims amplified noise coming from Hope Pro 2 Evos which sound lovely. Less is more on the road, so skeptical to both Chris King and Carbon Ti hubs with their high POE, Hope RS4 seems like a better bet.

    The chances of buying a hub that meets your brain’s requirements and has same flange height is surely slim.

    According to DT’s spoke length calc all the hubs I’m considering are within 1 mm of the spoke length used with the DT350, so besides the rebuild cost/time it needn’t be that expensive.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Hope RS4 seems like a better bet.

    I hear an oscillation on that video.

    BearBack
    Free Member

    I hear an oscillation on that video.

    100%.
    Imagine going through all this, to put in a pawl’d hub that does exactly the same.

    crikey
    Free Member

    All hubs sound like that when you spin them up in your house. But you carry on…

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    I hear an oscillation on that video.

    True, but it’s nowhere near as bad! Let me remind you:

    DT350

    All hubs sound like that when you spin them up in your house. But you carry on…

    False

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Ah, right now I get it. I’ve spotted the problem. The DT is upside down.

    crikey
    Free Member

    …and doing that with your bike upside down will scuff your saddle and shifters.

    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    My Superstar hub has no funny oscillating noises.

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    Hope Pro Evo 2 40 POE low grease

    Hope Pro Evo 2 40 POE DT grease

    DT350 24 POE

    DT350 54 POE

    I really should stop lol, but even if the Hope hub sounds aggressive with its high POE, the sound is even relative to the DT hubs. Less POE is more for road use, likely less drag that way too.

    Believe recording the sound with the bike upside down on the ground is better than clamped up as it won’t rock as much BTW.

    damascus
    Free Member

    You won’t get any koms freewheeling!

    Record it again but this time with constant pedalling

    If you pedal all the time then you won’t hear it.

    Save your money on a wheel rebuild and buy a new chain ring like a 58t so you will never run out.

    Just think of all the koms you would get with a 58tx10?

    PS how much of that noise is caused by those deep rims rather than the hub? I suspect hope will also make the noise with those rims.

    With all seriousness, you are never going to be happy with them. Cut your losses now, sell them and buy another set.

    nixie
    Full Member

    I made that suggestion on page one but it was ignored. Plenty of other deep carbon rim choices if that’s what the OP really wants.

    OP is the noise an echo? Is there anyway to fill the rim void (like vibracore rims) to reduce the echo.

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    PS how much of that noise is caused by those deep rims rather than the hub? I suspect hope will also make the noise with those rims.

    The rim amplifies the noise, but it doesn’t create its oscillating nature – just look at other DT hub noise vids.

    Right now it’s tolerable with a 24T ratchet, but it doesn’t please my ears either ;p

    jabbi
    Free Member

    Haha, it’s just noise, let it go, ride your bike, DT hubs oscillate, accept that and deal with it or change them. FWIW Hope hubs are louder, I have both. Oh and never buy a Shimano Microspline hub for your mtb, they go between clicky and silent dependent on speed, would drive you mad!

    honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    oldnpastit

    Round spokes are far more aesthetically pleasing than bladed. For starters, they are symmetrical.

    This is your second post on this thread confusing “straight pull ” with “bladed” – they’re not the same thing. Plenty of non-bladed straight pull spokes out there, and there are j-bend bladed spokes also.

    philjunior
    Free Member

    For lower drag, go for fewer points of engagement.

    I would suggest just getting used to the noise. If you’re really worried about drag, as others have said, don’t freewheel.

    You would probably get faster from riding the thing, even if indoors on a trainer, than constantly obsessing over things that, in the real world, don’t matter.

    wardee
    Free Member

    I read this and thought, this sounds like the op needs a fixed gear hub. Losing the freewheel is the only way to get rid of freewheel noise completely.

    But then I thought any chain noise and bottom bracket squeaks might still bother him so maybe a penny farthing would be better.

    Then it hit me. No child has ever complained that their balance bike was too loud.

    The op can convert his bike to a balance bike at no expense by simply removing the drive train components and lowering the saddle. He doesn’t even need to change the hub as the free hub won’t rotate without the chain fitted.

    Once he has ridden it in public a few times, marvelled at the silence and been sufficiently ridiculed he will hopefully realise that the free hub noise really wasn’t that bad.

    (Disclaimer: Some people are highly tolerant to ridicule as proven by the existence of mamils, so this approach may not work in all cases.)

    Seriously OP. Just ride your bike. No bike is ever totally silent.

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    Oh and never buy a Shimano Microspline hub for your mtb, they go between clicky and silent dependent on speed, would drive you mad!

    Appreciate the warning!

    If you’re really worried about drag

    Nah, but given the choice..

    I read this

    No you didn’t.

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    €285 later including labor, the solution – Newmen Fade

    imnotverygood
    Full Member

    £250 well spent 😳

    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    Nice.

    yohandsome
    Free Member

    £250 well spent 😳

    £161 factoring in selling the old hub, plus shaves off a bit of weight not that it matters but hey.

    It’s a bit loud, but not too bad and can turn the volume down by adding a bit more grease, thank lord it doesn’t have the oscillating buzz of the DT.

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