…hooorah !

to be fair, i don’t see much difference between deep_river shouting

leftwing Citreon 2cv drivers

and tandemjeremy shouting

right wing loonies

both are just lazy shortcuts to a point of view that they can’t actually substantiate.

I think TJ has far better chance of doing so than Deep River though, wouldn’t you say?

I do wonder sometimes when people like deep_river and others BNP/right wing sorts have ever actually seen people in this country in real poverty

BNP voters are all ex-Labour types from inner city northern towns aren’t they? Upset that all them foreign types are getting all the best hand outs instead of them. I’d imagine they know crappy areas intimately.

That’s a Godwin fail.

That’s a Godwin fail

No it’s not. Read the rules on Godwin you Nazi.

I think TJ has far better chance of doing so than Deep River though, wouldn’t you say?

i think that deep_river has the same chance of proving that the people he’s arguing with on here drive Citreons as tandemjeremy has of provng that authors of a right wing think tank website have mental health issues.

two cheeks of the same arse.

Ooh, someone’s bin called a Nazi! Excellent!! 😀

(Gets comfy chair, choc-chip cookies and cold beer…)

Fair point actually Trailmonkey.

loons may not have been used as a medical defintion [iirc mental health professional rarely label anyone a loon these days] . I suspect it was used in the more informal and widely recognised form of stupid or foolish
they may have been lazy caricatures but I think TJ could defend what he has said on here easier than deep river.

I better qualify the Nazi comment then 🙂

The 2CV drivers I know are the bourgeoise wife of a doctor, an entrepreneur and an ex-fighter pilot.

No it’s not. Read the rules on Godwin you Nazi.

😆

Are they all tree-hugging commies?

The bourgeoise lives in possibly the last house in the quarter with single glazing, the entrepreneur drives the 1000+km to Germany for business rather than take the train (but not in the deudeuche) and the fighter pilot may well have downed a few commies in his time but is very discrete obout the missions he carried out.

BNP voters are all ex-Labour types from inner city northern towns aren’t they?

Dunno really, can’t say I’ve ever seen any figures
It’d be some step from being a leftie to go that far right

Mind you, the Tories used to employ Edgar Griffin [Nick’s dad] as a campaign aide at the same time as he was manning the BNP election hotline

Maybe he was secret Labour voter as well as a BNP/Tory?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hundreds-of-conservatives-are-in-the-bnp-667032.html

So probbly not then? 😐

I ate a commie once.. very gristly

IDunno really, can’t say I’ve ever seen any figures
It’d be some step from being a leftie to go that far right

You’re kidding? Right? 😯

I live in as right wing an area as possible in the rather lovely cotswolds. The BNP does not exist.

Pick any crappy northern town or deprived london area and you’ll find Labour and the BNP.

The BNP recruit from Labour.

I am not sure that the BNP are a right wing party, I haven’t really heard any of their policies (do they actually have any?) other than racism.
Racist policies seem to be held more by parties that hold right wing economic policies, probably because they need scapegoats to blame for failure and Johnny foreigner (or supposed benefit cheats) are easier targets than the rich and powerful.

The bNP recruit from socially deprived areas, they recruit people who feel failed by the current politics, and give them easy if incorrect answers.

pps. The nazis were a socialist party.

No they weren’t. Just called themselves ‘National Socialists’, but actual Socialism is opposed to any exclusion along racial grounds.

Stalin was a Nazi 😀

I am not sure that the BNP are a right wing party, I haven’t really heard any of their policies (do they actually have any?) other than racism.

The Political Compass puts them to the left of Labour.

Elfinsafety – Member

No they weren’t.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

My son is genuinely disabled and walks with a frame and it riles me when we need a disabled parking space but only to find all are taken up by either fake blue badge holders or Merc drivers who believe they can park anywhere. I would grass him up without hesitation and feel proud that I’m helping the genuine people who need help. Even though my son needs 24 hour care I have never missed a days work in all my working life (I’m 43). Just do it and think of my poor son! The people who say no are the people who know somebody or who are milking the system dry.
Armo

Erm, from your Wiki link, MSP:

Nazism (Nationalsozialismus, National Socialism; alternatively spelled Naziism[1]) was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany.[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] It was a unique variety of fascism that involved biological racism and antisemitism.[10] Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies; in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.[11]

Any ‘socialist’ policies were simply subterfuge. Socialism is about treating people as social equals; Nazism is the opposite of that.

Can someone sum this all up. ‘cos last time I read this thread it was about some bloke thinking about grassing up some bloke he didn’t really know anything about cos he pushed a caravan or went up a ladder or something. is it worth reading? or just the usual?

I eat a BNP pig once.. well just a bacon sarnie.. it was juicy.. and very very rascist.. with an aftertaste of anger and disillusion..

I agree with the Elephant, nationalist parties have their base in the industrial socialist strongholds in all the countries I’m familiar with. In France the FN does well in Nord, Pas de Calais and Marseille but not in the rural west. In Germany the extreme right has it’s base in poor city suburbs.

Don’t worry Elephant, I promise not to agree with you again for a few months. 😉

errrrr Excuse me, DO NOT put me in the same sentance as the BNP.

I am not a right wing looney, I was just bored and fancied an online rumble!

You lot obviously take this very seriously and have some very strong views you are not happy to let lie.

I personally do not care wether or not you agree with me, we are all entitled to an opinion, are we not??????? Or is that an extreme right wing view too????????

I do however find it very offensive to be put into the same sentance as the BNP.

Nazi = national socialist. Edit: sozialist being spelt with a Z in German.

also from My link

They declared support for a nationalist form of socialism that was to provide for the Aryan race and the German nation economic security, social welfare programs for workers, a just wage, honour for workers’ importance to the nation, and protection from capitalist exploitation.

Certainly not the socialism that I believe in, but a brand of socialism that they sold to the people of Germany at that time.

Don’t worry Elephant, I promise not to agree with you again for a few months.

If anyone else does it I’ll have to switch sides.

people who use that many question marks are almost always BNP members..

Can someone sum this all up.

It’s about the resentment of some, for others, and the perception by some that others are taking what they aren’t entitled to.

There was a little bit about the need for people to be socially responsible and confront fraudulent behaviour using appropriate means, but a lot of it’s just a load of the usual waffle. Some of it’s quite funny really. Reached a peak, but then sort of fizzled out really, briefly perking up this evening.

Someone’s bin called a Nazi though, so things could hot up again.

Certainly not the socialism that I believe in, but a brand of socialism that they sold to the people of Germany at that time.

Yeah I see what yer saying, but to call them a ‘socialist’ party is a bit warped by any rational standards though, wouldn’t you agree? 😀

The BNP attempt similar tactics, but truth be told, those in charge of that nasty shower of poo don’t mean a word of it. They just want thick, ignorant and amenable foot soldiers to serve their own selfish ends.

thier main/sole campaign issue is immigration/nationalism which is much more of a right wing issue than it is a left wing one. They wer efomed fromt he NF who were right wing
How was that “compass” calculated as I would put them to the right of pretty much everyone.
The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party formed as a splinter group from the National Front by John Tyndall in 1982. It restricted membership to ‘indigenous British’ people until 2010, after a legal challenge to its constitution.[14]
Wiki for example

thier main/sole campaign issue is immigration/nationalism which is much more of a right wing issue than it is a left wing one.

Is it?

I thought Labour acknowledged that immigration lost them votes. That suggests it’s a left wing issue.

I do however find it very offensive to be put into the same sentance as the BNP

I suspect they agre with you on benefits though – I t was not me who calle dyou BNP I dont think you are a racist as your hate is more general and less focused
Calm down and think happy thought like lazy scroungers being buried in holes
Elfin call him a nazi and see if we can drag him back in

lazy scroungers, big holes 🙂

BNP 🙁

Who, Kevevs?

Oi, Kev, yer a Nazi!

I really don’t think he is though actually. 😐