I realise that with the massive drop in price in recent years there’s less need for folk to tinker away in sheds to get half decent lights for a bargain price. I quite enjoy it though, but recently struggled to find LEDs like I used to – in particular it used to be quite common to get 3 CREE LEDs on a 20mm star PCB with an optic to suit, but they’re virtually impossible to find these days. Is it just because more recent LEDs put out more heat and power and so need to be spaced apart a bit more? If anyone has a stash of old LEDs or optics knocking about I’d be interested!
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I’ve got a design for a focussed road light that I have been developing for a couple of years that doesn’t blind oncoming drivers. I’ve built a couple of iterations that achieve that end but and not quite what I am looking for from the beam in terms of pattern on the road. I’ve sort of lost incentive to do it though over the Summer but may build the next version now that the dark nights are almost upon us.
I wouldn’t bother with off-road lights now though. Too many decent, affordable alternatives available from China now.
I’ve got a BT70 which is according to MTBR 7x XP-G2 in parallel, with a 7A driver but the on/off/mode switch is annoying me so I was thinking of hacking about with it to change it to on/off (where on is the full 7A). But can’t find a driver that will do that?
The 7up board is this one. LEDs are wired in series.
Driver is a Maxflex3 set to bi mode 3100 lumen main beam 850 dipped (output is 1400mA main, 350mA dipped) with a remote switch mounted near my righthand shifter.
I’ve got a BT70 which is according to MTBR 7x XP-G2 in parallel, with a 7A driver but the on/off/mode switch is annoying me so I was thinking of hacking about with it to change it to on/off (where on is the full 7A). But can’t find a driver that will do that?
Snaps can I ask how you turned the hid stem mount battery round by 90 degrees? That’s perfect for shot stems.
When short stems became popular Hope started making ‘sideways’ batteries for HID lights but the phased out HID in favour of LED Vision 2&4 also discontinuing hardpack batteries – they were only made for a short time & are very rare.
Don’t think they’re still available, but with no thermal cut out, the 960mA ones (or whatever they were) had a distinctly limited lifespan.
I’ve got a b2flex driver in one of mine, which is a real squeeze, but it’s a much more sophisticated driver, and you can safely go much higher than 1A.
Speaking of drivers… this thread has got me interested in some more tinkering. I’m looking at the XHP70 LEDs which have a forward voltage of 6V or 12V. I’ve got 4 cell series batteries (14.8V). Allowing for voltage sag under load, I’m not sure that this is enough to get the 1V headroom needed to keep the b2flex / h6flex drivers in regulation once the battery is more than half used.
Anyone got any experience of using these LEDs? If so what batteries/drivers are you using?
Yep, I’m still playing with them now and then.
Currently running a 2 x XPH70 bar light, about 8000 lumens, and a modified Chinese light with 4 x XPL-Hi LED’s with around 4000 lumens. I know, I know, it’s not all about the amount of lumens but as I’m making them myself I may as well make it as bright as possible.
I also made the mount for the bar one:
Modified Chinese light:
And currently have this box of half done ones and loads of optics etc:
Anyone got any experience of using these LEDs? If so what batteries/drivers are you using?
In my bar light I have 2 x XHP70 6V in series running at 5a with a taskLED H6Flex driver and an MTB 15v battery.
I only do short (1.5 – 2 hours) rides and 90% is slow stuff so battery life is OK. Full power is only for a couple of minutes at a time on the fast DH stuff I have thought of getting a bigger battery but haven’t had the need yet.
That bar light is awesome – wish I had the ability to produce something like that! Have just ordered an h6flex. I think I may end up running a single 6V LED from an 11V (3s2p) battery.
What optics are you using? They look bigger than the usual 35mm.
I’ve just been having a cruise round the interwebs and see that four4th have a number of bits from driver boards, led boards and lenses advertised at keen prices that may be source that could be explored.
38mm is going to be a bit big for the housing I’ve got in mind, but looks like the Minnie might work. What angle is the one you’ve got and how do you find it?
This thread has inspired me to build a new light, and seeing as building a new light meant ordering a new driver from TaskLED, I took the opportunity to also upgrade the driver in my Lumicycle Frankenlight, now in it’s 4th incarnation (halogen, XPG + black cat driver, XM-L + b2flex, now XM-L + b3flex).
The light has been running perfectly at the b2flex max current of 1500mA, but the LEDs are rated to 3A, so I’ve always wondered how it’d cope with a bit more power.
Now I can find out – b3flex installed:
Whilst I was in there, I also added a status LED, so i’ve got some idea of battery level. I also swapped all the wires for silicon wires which makes the whole thing go together much more easily as they’re more flexible.
Really impressed by these drivers, and George from TaskLED has been incredibly helpful after I butchered one of the solder joints and needed info on the PCB in order to repair it.
Still waiting on a couple of parts before I can start building the other light.
It’s *very* tight. You need to bend the connectors on the power socket, and the switch is one of the things that has to go. It’s possible that you may be able to find a shallower switch. Maybe something like this, which mounts from the rear and which could be padded out with washers to make it shallower if need be.
In my case, the flying lead is a connector for a remote switch. My commuting bike has a little switch hacked into the STI lever, and a socket wrapped under the end of the handlebar tape. For other bikes I’ve got a little remote switch with velcro straps.
It’s a good solution to be honest. Presumably, the can could be used to just house the LEDs and heatsink with a lead coming out while the driver and switch are housed elsewhere…
Actually, you ideally want the driver and LEDs sitting on the same heatsink as the TaskLED drivers have thermal protection that’s intended to monitor the LED temperature. The b3flex has the option of a handy little aluminium shim which you bond to the back of the board, and then onto the heatsink.
Little parcel from Singapore finally arrived so I now have this:
Easy2led housing, Cree XHP70.2, h6flex driver and Ledil Minnie optic. 6V LED at 5A should be good for about 4000 lumens.
Housing is a neat design with screw in pill for the driver and LED. One side of the pill is a flat surface, intended to take the LED, and the other is recessed for the driver, to maximise surface area in contact with the casing. The only issue is that the h6flex is too big to fit in the recessed side, so you have to run the pill backwards with the LED in the recessed side. This probably rules out triple LED setups.
I ordered reflectors with a plastic holder, but it turns out that the recess on the pill is just slightly too deep to clear the lip on the plastic holder, so that got butchered so that only the base remained (the black plastic bit in the photo), and further butchered to clear the wires on the PCB.
The h6flex still needs some gentle filing to clear the wires going through the pill (thanks to this MTBR thread for figuring out that this was possible.
Not had a chance to try it in anger, but initial impressions are very good. I went for a 4000K LED rather than the pure/cold white LEDs in my other lights. It was warmer than I was expecting, but I think it might work well in practice.
Obviously cooling is an issue. The casing is significantly larger and more solid than a lumicycle can, and has a much greater surface area in contact between the heatsink pill and the casing, which is always going to be the weak point with a removable pill.
At room temperature in still air it lasts 2m15s before the thermal protection kicks in set at 70 degrees, which seems OK (5A => 30W). The lumicycle light manages 1m40s running at 22.5W.
Sure. It was a truly international effort: Drivers are direct from TaskLED in the US. Housing is from Easy2LED in Russia. LED from FastTech in Singapore.
Reflectors (CA12881 MINNIE-M), power connector and button are all from RS.
Due to minimum order quantities, I’ve got three spare reflectors which I’ll happily part with for £5 each.
Sourcing the LEDs is a bit of a minefield. Apparently fake Crees are now common place and whilst FastTech certainly have form for selling torches claiming to have Cree LEDs when they’re not, I’ve not found any suggestion that the individual LEDs aren’t legit. It certainly seems to put out about the right amount of light.