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Got sent this over the weekend - interested in your opinions.
This has come from a reliable source - a police officer! it makes interesting reading.
The Uncomfortable Definition of an Infidel ....
Recently I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my prison security clearance. During the training session
there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.
After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked, 'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a
command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation he replied, 'Non-believers!'
I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of 'a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'
I then stated, 'Well, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope Benedict commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.
Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'
The Imam was speechless!
I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me
ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam remained speechless.
Needless to say, the organizers and promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with this way of dealing with the
Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
FACT: Within twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.K. to elect a government of their choice, complete with sharia law.
I think everyone in the U.K. should be required to read this, but with the Liberal justice system, liberal media and the political correctness
madness, there is no way this will be widely publicised.
John Harrison MBE. MIDSc
A reliable source, you say. A police officer? Make your mind up.
Sounds like BNP propaganda to me, intended to stir it up
The police officer bit was part of the email - not my opinion 🙂
Obvious inflammatory rubbish. especially this bit
FACT: Within twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.K. to elect a government of their choice, complete with sharia law.
Sharia law could never exist in this country. Human rights act etc and 1000s of years of case law. There are no where near enough muslims to make a majority nor will there be in 20 yrs nor will all muslims vote for sharia law.
Shame on you for repeating such nasty divisive lying drivel
At least other religions have never caused wars and....oh hang on yes they have. I wonder if you added up all the deaths that could be directly contributed to the various faiths which one would come out on top?
Buddhism would be relatively low down I imagine.
political correctness madness
so close, but no cigar.
It's [i]political correctness gone mad[/i]
The Daily Mail will be disappointed at the slip in editorial standards 🙂
no known deaths attributable to the Spaghetti Monster as far as I know.
Definitely a winner there.
I suspect that this is a fake intended to stir things up. I believe that it contains a factual error that may reveal this, as far as I am aware 'people of the faith' includes Jews and Christians as all three faiths believe in the same god - just different ways to appreciate him. Happy for someone with a stronger theological background to correct me.
Oh dear.
Obvious inflammatory rubbish.
QFT.
Don't know why you are all questioning the truth contained in that email after all you know from this weekends papers and tv the security forces have just prevented another outrage that would have been commited by islamic terrorists. wake up and have a look around, before long you'll all need to have a beard and have baggy pants. It's like being a stranger in your own land.
Er paging Mods - how about deleting this BNP Propaganda ?
oh come of it we could make this run for ages weres all your middle class outrage. freedom of speech and all that, were not in saudi now.
Don't know why you are all questioning the truth contained in that email after all you know from this weekends papers and tv the security forces have just prevented another outrage that would have been commited by islamic terrorists. wake up and have a look around, before long you'll all need to have a beard and have baggy pants. It's like being a stranger in your own land.
Please emigrate then and do us all a favour.
[i]Got sent this over the weekend - interested in your opinions.[/i]
My opinion is that it's the sort of thing a bigoted idiot would post on a forum, because they're too spineless to express their own views so attempt to do it by proxy.
Well you did ask 🙂
So tyger - extreme naivety or racism?
Nice one brant. Good to see the story behind the story, as it were.
mt- see you at Mosque this Friday, then?
RudeBoy:
mt- see you at Mosque this Friday, then?
Dont forget to kill at least one infidel on the way there tho, oh and pop your shoes off at the door.
the security forces have just prevented another outrage that would have been commited by islamic terrorists
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/terror-raids-unearth-huge-amount-of-bullshit-200904101694/
[i]Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world[/i]
You're wrong.
Next.
I like these threads. Gives you a chance to see who the real ignorant bigots on here are...
Awful.
Didn't you even stop to think about how idiotic this kind of stuff is, Tyger?
grumm-reels him in. I thought that the baggy pants was a give way.
I like these threads. Gives you a chance to see who the real ignorant bigots on here are...
and which ones are they then? given that mt was out fishing for grumm-trout...
Well I'd say that not knowing that "infidel" means "non-believer" is pretty ignorant for a start.
Whipppeee - rudeboy as well. will need a bigger keep net at this rate.
That so called email has been doing the rounds for ages, got it sent to me from the states some time ago.
grumm-reels him in. I thought that the baggy pants was a give way.
Hmm, trolling is cool eh? Bravo. ;P
May I just repeat that this email was SENT to me NOT WRITTEN by me.
I'm not expressing an opinion but wondered if anyone had also ben sent it and their thoughts.
I'm not expressing an opinion but wondered if anyone had also ben sent it and their thoughts.
What thoughts were you imagining people might have?
"Ooh those awful nig-nogs, they're at it again" - that sort of thing?
All this 'reels him in..got one in the net' rubbish makes me feel like I'm on a busy train carriage and people have just seen the culprit is pleasuring himself. Quite unedifying.
No Brant more like the snopes link you provided.
Whipppeee - rudeboy as well. will need a bigger keep net at this rate.
So happy to have made your day.
You can go and have a little fap now.
fap? Is that like onanism?
It's what the thunderbirds used to say before knocking one out.
I think so, aP.
Ear, aP; what's yer fave underground station? I mean, loads to chose from, but which one do you like the best, and why?
Arnos Grove is a popular one:
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Then there's Southgate:
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Of course, Baker St has a fantastic interior:
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And the Ticket Hall at Canary Wharf is truly an impressive bit of contemparary architecture.
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But it's just too bewildering, considering the vast cornucopia of styles and decor that you can find.
Ken. High St:
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So many things, all over the network. And little forgotten details, which hark back to bygone years.
What's yer fave?
grumm, rudeboy - apologies was just a bit bored. Did think that you'ed got away this time with the "Yawn" rudeboy but you came back for another nibble.
What's your fave tube station, mt?
Barons Court's another little gem:
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I particularly like:
Sudbury Town (the first of the Holden boxes) as its such a clear diagram, and the ramped overbridge together with the round ended waiting areas just go together to make up a great (simple) station. The brickwork in the Holden stations is fantastic, as is a lot of the in situ RC - the finish to which at some stations we don't know how to replicate.
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Tooting Broadway - another Holden station (mostly beacuse of the Woolfie Smith connotations)
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West Ham (van Heyningen and Haward + JLE project team) as its a very clear modern interpretation of the Holden idiom, although a little lost until the Parcelforce site gets redeveloped.
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I do also like the Leslie Green stations (the oxblood terracotta facades) although mostly the interiors have gone. Amazing that he was dead at 33 from tubeculosis after having designed over 30 stations.
i say we all shave our heads, listen to ska and go kick some '****s'
[faecituos smiley]....!!
but it does say non-believers. so those that believe what is written in books over 1000yrs old should be ok.
its us atheists that believe in books generally considerably younger than that that are done for.....
oh well.
Ooh, you're coming from a much more architectural engineering point of view than me! I confess I'm not the expert you are!
I just love the way that a tube journey can be a trip through history; from proper old Victorian stuff (the brick cavern of Baker St is amazing), through yer Art Deco stuff like Arnos Grove and Southgate, and yer more Brutalist stuff like your examples, to the brand new, like Canary Wharf, some of the new Jubilee Line stuff, and the DLR.
I like some of the little ones on the District Line; places like Ravenscourt Park, Chiswick, Puntney Bridge and the cavernous Earl's Court.
And it's fascinating to see how the different lines have their own style, as they were built at different times, by different architects. The Metropolitan line has a distinct look, which is separate from the District Line, for example.
And of course, shame on me, for forgetting the East London Line; one of the oldest subterranean railway lines in the World, boasting the World's oldest sub-aquatic rail tunnel!
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Fascinating bit of Wiki about the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Tunnel ]Thames Tunnel[/url].
I'm so glad I'm an athiest.
I don't need propaganda to know Islam or any other religion-look at history lol...
Funny how the same people post the same trollup and claim not to be a racist.
Thing is-Intolerance is a problem-that includes Islam followers who are racist to anyone else.
Also half the people on this forum couldn't tell the difference bewteen muslims or any other religion Asian.
At work people were sitting at lunch talking about this turban wearing Muslim guy-I pointed out he was Sikh with replies wassat-from degree educated people...I needn't say anymore.
Tyger-whatever your purpose, people are thick and believe anything without constructive critism and causes fear and hatred.
But I think its good he posted as it shows that people don't beleive the email and also prepare for these things that people are scared to discuss.
Sharee law and racism is disgusting but only as we're not delusional.
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Rudeboy - I think you would have to go a long way to see better thant he moscow underground stations
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Sharee law and racism is disgusting but only as we're not delusional.
Cheeze... at least spel it rite...
No, you're right, TJ. That is truly something. Bet it costs a bloody bomb to maintain, though!
Some of the central London stations, such as Covent Garden, Leicester square and Piccadilly are impressive, for the amount of old brickwork, glazed tiles and brass fittings. I'm glad they keep the character of these stations alive; it's like a living museum.
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I love that victorian tilework.
Moscow underground is amazing - the stations are like temples
RudeBoy -Sharee law is slang in India, it's used by Hindus to take the pi$$!
Besides if I quoted incorrect grammer or spelling from yourself I'd be here all day.
Unless the forum is going to use correct grammer and paragraphs then I don't really care about spilling a foo wurds.
Besides I should be working lol...
Covent Garden is a Leslie Green station - designed so that in the future somthing could be built over the top of it. there's some seriously big iron stantions in those stations - although some like Gloucester Road never had the "air rights" building constructed.
TJ - I'm afraid that quite a lot of the tiling is actually rather more recent than you might think. More like Elisabethan than Victorian I'm afraid.
The Northern Line extension stations in south london use very nice Vitreous Enamel tiles rather than ceramic ones, ie Clapham South, Tooting Broadway, etc
(Bows down to the Great Ap's vastly superior knowledge of the architecture of London's Tube)
[b]Zaskar- sorry, I'm no longer inertested! We're talking about Tube stations now. What's your favourite?
Bethnal Green is historically significant, as it's where 173 peopledied following a panic to get into the station, during WW2. The tragic events were caused not by a German air-raid, but the noise from nearby Victoria Park, where the army were testing some guns.
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[/url]The crush at Bethnal Green is the largest loss of civilian life in the UK in World War II and the largest loss of life in a single incident on the London Underground network.
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Some nice tiles down below. And there's a lot of older Underground styles; lots of original lettering and signage, and use of fonts. The ticket counters are the lovely old brass ones, original, I think.
A fave of mine, as it's near my old nursery, so I remember it from a very early age.
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173 dying in a tube station!! That's horrific!! Never knew about that. Can you imagine that now?
Just read the wiki link, quite extraordinary piece of history, thanks for that Rudeboy.
Try reading the Koran to get a better picture of what Muslims beleive and make your own mind up.
I did.
Take a look at what's underneath Clapham South tube......
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You're welcome, nickc! Always good to learn stuff. Like I've been doing, from aP's posts!
In fact, I think I'm in love with aP, and want his babies..
What is that thing, btw? Got a link to it? The pic links to an inertesting site, though, thanks.
[b]Zaskar- sorry, I'm no longer inertested! We're talking about Tube stations now. What's your favourite?
Wynyard?
Eh? What ****ing line is that on???
Not the Central Line is it? They like to reduntatify stations...