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  • Any used the high hedge act to get neighbours to trim leylandii?
  • cheers_drive
    Full Member

    We moved in 11 years ago and the henge to the neighbours over the back was about 3m tall. Now it’s over 6 (taller than our house) at its closest it’s about 10m away from our house.
    5 years ago I went round twice to nicely ask if they would consider halving the height. They said they would look in to it but nothing done. Now, 5 years on, the hedge is ridiculous.
    Our local council charges £600 to investigate which we’ll lose regardless of whether we win or not. I don’t mind paying if we win and it’s enforced but my question is how can the council enforce it the neighbour pleads poverty or something (it will costs thousand to remove)?
    And before anyone asks, no I don’t want to put anyone in financial trouble over it.

    dc1988
    Full Member

    You could offer to pay for it to be trimmed?

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    cheers_drive
    Full Member

    It’s going to be thousands why should I pay when they have a duty to maintain the hedge.

    timber
    Full Member

    The council used to cut our garden for the previous owners when it became too jungle for the neigbours, the previous owners were under council care so figure either covered by the council or they lodged a charge against the house along with other care costs.

    cookeaa
    Full Member

    So it’s a boundary hedge right? Is it actually theirs or is it shared?

    Wouldn’t you just be within your rights to chop it down so long at the boundary remains?

    steveb
    Full Member

    Optimum height for leylandii is -18″.

    Or indeed any sodding conifer.

    cheers_drive
    Full Member

    5ft wooden fence on boundary. The leylandii are a few foot into their side. When I spoke to the neighbour 5 years ago he said he planted them to stop the previous owner of our house peeping on his the teenage daughter sunbathing in the garden!
    3m is fine and still. Above the max 2m of the act but 6m plus is ridiculous

    Mikkel
    Free Member

    Pretty sure the 2m you mention is for hedges at the front toward the road.

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    Ewan
    Free Member

    You should also price in your neighbour hating you….(Not your fault clearly but reporting them to the council is not going to make you very popular)

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    matt_outandabout
    Full Member

    It’s going to be thousands why should I pay when they have a duty to maintain the hedge.

    Because being pragmatic and comprising gets you your sunlight and view back quicker than being right.

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    thenorthwind
    Full Member

    We moved in 11 years ago and the henge to the neighbours over the back was about 3m tall

    Bloody druids, no consideration for anyone else.

    joat
    Full Member

    I think you have to exhaust all other routes of mediation first. 10 meters sounds a bit far away for the council to want to get involved.

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    It’s going to be thousands why should I pay when they have a duty to maintain the hedge.

    Unless it’s a really long boundary, may not be as much as you think. £600 would cover a chunk of it.

    (I assume the teenage daughter is now in her 20s…..)

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    kormoran
    Free Member

     We moved in 11 years ago and the henge to the neighbours over the back was about 3m tall

    Bloody druids, no consideration for anyone else

    Underated post

    davosaurusrex
    Full Member

    Following. Similar situation here, we are friendly with the neighbours and their property is rented but the leylandii is out of hand, nothing will grow underneath it as well as blocking out light. They don’t want to upset their landlord and I know they don’t have the money to pay to have any work done on it themselves

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    chambord
    Full Member

    Get a quote, I doubt it will be thousands but hard to say without a picture.

    Be careful with nesting birds this time of year, you may not actually be able to do anything until ~August.

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    funkmasterp
    Full Member

    It has been sooo long since we’ve had a neighbourly dispute thread. May I suggest setting fire to the shrubbery (after checking for baby robins) and then pwning your neighbours with bombers, weeing in their shoes and then hammering frozen sausages in to their lawn before finishing with bumming their dog.

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    cheers_drive
    Full Member

    The tree surgeon we talked too said leylandii are more expensive than regular trees as the trunks are thin and there are no limbs to use to lower bits down.
    They had previously done some work for us on some mature ash trees so I know the pricing was fair and the work good.
    They also said that they’ve got so out of control that reducing the height will probably kill the leylandii.
    10m away for a 2 or 3m hedge is fine but at 6m plus we can only see the sky directly above us.

    petefromearth
    Full Member

    One of our neighbours had a row of massive leylandii that used to border a communal garden that’s part of our terrace. I believe it started off fairly neighbourly and got pretty ugly. He was retired and a cantankerous git so found plenty of ways to make it as awkward as possible. In the end the council ordered him to remove the hedge, however he chopped down all but one of the trees (which is still there). One tree is not a hedge, different rules apply, it was allowed to stay. The lonely git won, except everyone now hates him.

    frankconway
    Free Member

    You refer to high hedges legislation; have you fully read the legislation?

    Have you considered ‘right to light’ legislation to understand whether or not you may have a case?

    As for the fee a council will charge – I’ve just checked mine on their website and its £250 so your £600 seems excessive but if that’s what they’re quoting…ouch.

    theotherjonv
    Free Member

    It’s going to be thousands why should I pay when they have a duty to maintain the hedge.

    I had to maintain some on work premises that backed onto residential. Are you sure that isn’t ‘don’t want the job’ pricing?

    And also you will probably struggle to get anyone (officially) until after nesting season (Mar-Sep) – although legal to trim hedges, etc it’s illegal to disturb active nests

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    qwerty
    Free Member

    It might not impact upon your neighbours too much financially if they’ve a hedge fund they’ve been putting cash into.

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    convert
    Full Member

    I got six 6m + high leylandii trees (that were about 6m wide each)  and a 10m long leylandii hedge that was about 4m high taken out of our garden and removed down to stump level – chipped and removed for £1200.

    Horrible horrible things.

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    Del
    Full Member

    a fine drill bit and a syringe of roundup delivered late evening as required sounds like the best thing to me.

    probably climate change.

    CountZero
    Full Member

    probably climate change.

    Yeah, a lot of trees of that size may well be exhausting whatever limited ground water supplies they have and they’re just naturally dying off. Nothing to be done, guv, except cut them down before they shed dead leaves and branches everywhere. 🤷🏼😉

    cheers_drive
    Full Member

    I’m not sure poisonimg a row of tall trees that could fall on our house is the brightest idea.

    Flaperon
    Full Member

    I’ve just hacked my neighbour’s leylandii hedge back to the boundary. They used to come around and trim them for me, but each time the hedge was encroaching slightly further into my garden and they just squared it off, so they were slowly occupying more and more of my land in a stealth invasion. It looks a bit brown and unhealthy now but I’ve got 7m³ of garden back.

    They also put them in for “privacy”, but Colditz had smaller walls. It’s not too bad for me as I’ve not held back in controlling the part that I have access to, but my neighbours further along have a permanently marshy garden and the hedge is more than 6m tall in places, towering over their house.

    Hedge height laws and right to light are horribly complicated in a garden, and probably not worth the effort and expense of investigating.

    thepurist
    Full Member

    They used to come around and trim them for me, but each time the hedge was encroaching slightly further into my garden and they just squared it off, so they were slowly occupying more and more of my land in a stealth invasion. It looks a bit brown and unhealthy now

    It’ll most likely stay brown and unhealthy – leylandii don’t have dormant buds in old growth, so if you hack it back beyond the green bit it’s not likely to recover well.

    You’ll often see that someone has hacked back a big leylandii hedge to brown twigs, then a few years later they get fed up with the brown twigs not growing back and take the whole lot down.

    And for the OP, there’s a whole forum for discussing the legalities of hedges

    https://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=7

    kormoran
    Free Member

    We had 5 leylandii across our boundary, each one 25 to 30m high

    Yes 30m. All with multi stems, an utter horror show. Arb team took them out over several days, it wasn’t cheap obviously but JFC what a difference in sunlight in the garden. Worth every one of the many pennies it cost.

    OP, your post is exactly why I took ours down as soon as practicable.

    Even when viewing before the purchase was even a thing I had concerns about the size of the buggers.

    Initially git the tips lopped off so we could get the lightweight roof fitted to the conservatory.

    GR3

    But after going for a brew with the new neighbour and seeing the mess on his side after trimming and just how much light and space they were taking up, we had them out.

    I feel your pain and hope you get a resolution.

    scud
    Free Member

    Interesting and timely one for me, I have a boundary hedge (about 12m high) of Leylandi at the back of my garden, i believe it is my hedge in that just the other side of the trunks is a wire fence which I presume is the boundary.

    My issue is that i have always maintained my side of the hedge, and have tried my best to keep it level on top. But it has two council properties behind, one didn’t used to maintain their side, but has recently brought someone in, but the second has not touched his garden in years, he is a real oddball and walks around in a pith helmet, his garden is brambles and weeds over 6ft high, but as he has never maintained his side of the hedge, it is has grown outwards as well as up, to the point where it is 6-8ft wide bordering his garden and i cannot reach that far over, so my half of the top of the hedge is level, then it is just wild for his side and all dying off.

    Where do you stand with something like that, do you both have a duty to keep it controlled?

    mrmonkfinger
    Free Member

    Moved into a house with overgrown leylandii once. “Luckily” it was ~10 ft tall at the time.

    Trimmed it back as far a possible with hedge cutters.

    Had to dive into the bigger stuff with loppers.

    Then went at the remains with a chainsaw.

    So. Many. Small. Branches. Too big for hedge trimmer, too small for chainsaw. Complete nightmare to even get to something big enough to be worth cutting. Manual loppers were ok, but, total pain.

    Horrible stuff.

    And then we had to dispose of the remains. Literally tons of it.

    Had a lot of bonfires that year.

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    Flaperon
    Full Member

    but as he has never maintained his side of the hedge, it is has grown outwards as well as up

    I imagine he’s never maintained his side of the hedge because, as you admit, it’s your hedge…

    grimep
    Free Member

    planted them to stop the previous owner of our house peeping

    Surely the perv would have just bought a drone?

    scud
    Free Member

    I imagine he’s never maintained his side of the hedge because, as you admit, it’s your hedge

    The trouble is, i cannot get access to his property, i wouldn’t even be able to get through his back garden it is so badly overgrown, plus each time i have tried to talk to him, he has no interest at all.

    dave_h
    Full Member

    Wait for them to go on holiday, arrange an ‘accidental’ BBQ incident?

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    verses
    Full Member

    Our house had a large leylandii hedge along the back when we moved in, I think 11 shrubs, all about 60ft high.

    The neighbour behind us (who we didn’t know) randomly called round one time and asked if we’d do something about it.  I said it was something I wanted to do but didn’t have the cash to deal with it at the time.

    A month or so later the local councillor called round (I assume for free) advising that I could be prosecuted for it and end up with an ASBO (do they still exist?).

    We scraped the cash together (neighbour put 100 towards it – as well as giving us some books for our baby), it was about 15 years ago and cost about £700 to get them reduced to about 8ft high from about 60ft.

    I later got a chainsaw from Lidl and removed them altogether.

    I’m still known as ASBO at work and my secret santa gift that year was a junior hacksaw 😀

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    z1ppy
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    cheers_driveFull Member
    It’s going to be thousands why should I pay when they have a duty to maintain the hedge.

    Because it inconveniencing you, not them? As above disputes with your neighbours are not something you want to get into and have to be declared when selling the property. Don’t get me wrong, I sympathise with your situation, but at the end of the day this is winding you up, not them…

    wzzzz
    Free Member

    The cost with these things is in dealing with the sheer volume of material.

    Chopping them down is the easy bit.

    I’ve been in your situation OP and I paid for neighbours trees to be chopped down safely, but said I would deal with the aftermath.

    If you can chip it on site into a compost pile then in 5 years you’ll have more lovely compost than you ever dreamed of.

    DT78
    Free Member

    As a corner plot I have a significant leylandi hedge along 3 boundaries, approx 2.5m high and in places a similar depth approx 45m long….

    Yes I know everyone hates them, and they are an utter pain to keep on top off, but, as a hedge they are pretty good at doing the sort of thing you want a hedge to do.  Despite being a corner plot on a busy local road the front garden feels very private, visitors often call it a secret garden.   It also does a decent job of absorbing noise, and I stop dust / rubbish / general crap I see chucked into other peoples gardens along the road.

    I cut it myself, 3 times a year, I have to do the inside, outside and top over the space of 6 weeks as each one fills the large garden wheelie bin.   I just run my lawnmower over the cuttings to mulch it and pick it up.  It takes a couple of hours each go, so really not too bad.  Main thing is the weather letting me do it.

    It really should not cost thousands to sort.  Sounds like a ‘guestimate’ rather than a quote.  ITs not *that* hard to deal with!

    Eventually we want to replace with laurel, removing that amount of hedging, and paying for a similar amount of laurel hedging really will cost thousands!

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