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Have had 3 dogs go for me when out on my bike in the last 3 weeks - worst one I got off the bike and used it as a barrier to stop the dog biting me. Any other tips on avoiding this or scaring dog away ? Do they see me as more of a threat if I get off the bike or do you think they will go for me anyway ?


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:48 pm
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Pepper spray or tazer.

Failing that pull a glock 😉


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:50 pm
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Ride away very fast. Good sprint training!


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:51 pm
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Kettle's on.

Who has the biscuits?


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:51 pm
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Always ride with someone slower than you.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:53 pm
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Always ride with someone slower than you.

and put bacon in their shorts pockets...


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:55 pm
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If you spot the dog first, lean down out of the sadle and pretend to pick something up, then hold up your arm as if you are going to throw it. Has worked for me a few times. If that fails, I have heard that there are those amongst us who resort to a well aimed kick. However, there are also those amongst us who put this on the same level as child abuse and I have no wish to re-open that thread!


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:55 pm
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Always ride with Crocodile Dundee


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:55 pm
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i shall not be following this thread.

move along, nothing to see here...


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:56 pm
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report it to the police.

shoot the dog/owner.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 1:59 pm
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If a dog seems particularly bitey/ barkey - I will usually get off my bike and put that between us. Gives the owner a chance to control their dog (hopefully)

I have shouted and stuff before when I can't see the owner - not sure its made alot of difference

I hate riding where there are lots of dogs around - I like dogs but they are so unpredictable around bikes. It spoils my ride if I'm having to eye up every dog to see how it will react to me - in my experience the furthur away you get from car parks/ urban areas the less dogs you see - and the better behaved the dogs you see become

I'm most wary of pairs/ groups of dogs


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:01 pm
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Through play fighting with my own dog I have learnt some good disabling techniques (eg. hand round front leg with thumb behind the bottom canine teeth, pin jaw against chest). 3 dogs though? Not so easy...
Run at them, waving your arms shouting very angrily and hope they think you're a bear?


 
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I usually turn round in the saddle and tell them to shut up. Usually works. Might not work so well if you sound like Alan Carr and you're sweating beef.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:08 pm
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Run at them, waving your arms shouting very angrily and hope they think you're a bear?

This technique is more effective if you wear a bearsuit while riding, like this...

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Posted : 09/03/2009 2:08 pm
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If the dog is attacking/acting aggressively and you ride or run away it'll stimulate his chase instinct and he might go after you. If you're static your best bet is to back away slowly, try not to stare at the dog or bare your teeth. If it looks like the dog is going to attack, you might try to scold the dog, depending on its size and aggression levels.

If getting attacked is inevitable, then it's obviously beneficial to have a weapon to hand. If possible use it to keep the dog at a distance. Aim for the nose and the eyes. There are loads of things which might make a good weapon - a pump, seat post or a stick can be used to deter the dog, to keep it at a distance. A multi-tool, Swiss army knife or similar will make a good stabbing or gouging weapon, even car keys can be used to this end.

If things really go south and a dog starts biting you then depending on the size of the dog you could be in a lot of trouble. Whatever you do - try to stay on your feet. If you are anticipating the attack, if possible wrap a jacket or similar around your forearm. Often dogs will go for the throat. Use your forearm to protect your throat and hopefully he will bite down on it and stay like that.

If the dog latches onto your trouser leg / or your leg - good. Let it hold on. Pick your moment and gouge its eyes. If you have a weapon in your hand then use it. Be relentless - keep attacking until you are sure the dog has got the message - most dogs when riled can take a lot of punishment.

If a dog gets hold of your arm, you might have to accept there is a possibility it'll get broken, depending on the size of the dog. Again this is a good opportunity to attack the dog. Blind it, beat it, stab it. If possible lift it by the tail - it'll relinquish its grip. Again, whatever you do, dont let it drag you to the ground.

One technique which works is to force your fist down the dogs throat - this will discourage it, and make the dogs only weapon useless. Leaving you free to incapacitate it as you see fit.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:16 pm
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Saying "down shep" doesn't work then?


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:18 pm
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kick his balls...


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:22 pm
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shouting usually works.

after that i fully advocate kicking the dog in the head, same goes for children.

if i can kick you in the head while im riding, you are too damn close.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:24 pm
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Always carry a cat with you. Throw it in the general direction of the dog if you feel threatened.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:27 pm
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lol @ gnargnar..!

its a dug FFS not a gun toting smack smoking knife wielding maniac

it always makes me laugh when people say just kick it, dogs jaws are almost always gonna be faster than your portly plates of middle aged scaredy meat, and if it does connect then you'll probably piss it off and make it more aggressive.

try watching the dug whisperer, he'll give you some handy tips on creating a calm submissive state...lol lol

failing that you could take Hora's approach and 'slit its throat' (only works on staffies though)


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:34 pm
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speak for yourself fatmutha

last year, two jack russels, one lab, one cross breed mongrel.
the jacks got a kinda stampy action, the lab more of a side kick - all of them kept barking but only from a distance.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:43 pm
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Gnargnar's right though... thing is, dogs only have one real weapon, whereas we have 4. Again from playfighting, you realise once you've incapacitated the dog's mouth, they can't do a lot. Mine's good at scratching with its front paws but a few scratches is ok.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 2:47 pm
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I have only fought pitched battles against quite small dogs, but I found dismounting from the bicycle and running at them yelling "I'm going to rip your balls off, you little tosser" worked fairly well. They don't seem to expect you to descned to their level.

Dread to imagine what gnargnar does for a living.... 😉


 
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lol @ gnargnar..!

its a dug FFS not a gun toting smack smoking knife wielding maniac

Yup. I am aware that there is a difference.

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Pretty typical scenario - idiotic owner, aggressive dog, not muzzled, off a leash. You see it all the time. If not for the by-passer the dog warden might well have been killed. Dont be fooled into thinking only a pitbull can do that, any dog over a few stone can really ruin your day. Better to be at least slightly prepared, even if only psychologically.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 3:04 pm
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Boot the ****ing vermins teeth down its throat, then kick the dog in the head. 😉


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 3:13 pm
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More generally, do you swerve, slam on the brakes, or stick fast to your line when the real aggressive ones come at you?

I tend to the latter, and they have always dodged so far, bar the odd nip.

I guess for the dog it has an upside, since riding straight ahead regardless means it has a predictable target, to hit or miss according to what it choses.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 3:17 pm
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This clip makes for interesting viewing

Jebus. That is terrifying!


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 3:18 pm
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watly - dogs sense fear.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 5:08 pm
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you need to learn TJ's karate death chop he can do to kill the rabib beast as it attacks you!!

😯


 
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Meant to have said - talk to Rights of Way Officer. That's what I did when an altercation took place between me and landowner with bridleway beside (Kimble Farm, you may know it). Had two Great Dane pups barking and jumping up at me and he didn't call them off (he was working outside) when he knew fine well I was there.

I ride on my own a lot, have no fear of dogs, used to have one and also worked in boarding kennels handling all types.

Hope this helps.


 
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Run them over, it normally works for me.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 6:31 pm
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That video is nasty but that chap with the stick shows how you should deal with a dog that's attacking. It's all very well people getting precious with their dogs but once it's at that stage the only thing fido is going to understand is pain.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 6:35 pm
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Once the dog backed off he should have beaten that woman over the head with the stick as well.


 
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Trouble is after watching that clip, if you are out on your own and a dog bites your arm like that you aren't going to be able to grab a stick very easily and whack it. And yes the fat lady should have been hit with the stick too. I hope she got her ass kicked in jail.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 10:47 pm
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the vast majority of dogs are cowards. probably even that one. If you make a lot of noise and advance, virtually all of them will back down. That's how you deal with it.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 11:00 pm
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GNARGNAR How utterly useless was the so called 'Dog/Animal Control Officer' leaning on her lassoo stick until the dog attacked her? Do you think she actually gets paid money to put bystanders etc in danger? What a waste of space!


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 11:28 pm
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I once heard that it's actually the high pitch sound emitted from hubs that is really stressful for dogs and something humans can't hear. Perhaps stopping and being pleasant may help to pacify the uncomfortable pooch.

If that doesn't work attempt to lock both the owner and dog in a room with no light or sound for 7 days whilst depriving them of both food and sleep. At the end of seven days administer a rigorous debrief with the aid of a disguised voice, bright lights, then strobes and finally a highly disturbing series of loud noises.

Then let them go..........that'll learn 'em.


 
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GNARGNAR How utterly useless was the so called 'Dog/Animal Control Officer' leaning on her lassoo stick until the dog attacked her? Do you think she actually gets paid money to put bystanders etc in danger? What a waste of space!

At least she was lucky though. She did what almost anyone would do - ie nothing other than panic. Perhaps she was very new to the job, if I even see a potentially dangerous dog without a muzzle or off a leash my body language becomes a bit less...laid back.


 
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You can get remotes that give off high pitch sound and the dogs go away.

Don't look them in the eye?

If it's too late-pedal like hell-it'll make you faster?

Get the long pump and get them to go for that, lift the pump high as you can with both arms with dog jaws on the pump.

Kick the dog in the groin as hard as you can-I did that by luck once and the bastard whined and left me alone. I should have finished it off and ate the sod.

I'll be dammed if I am getting my arm tore off.

I like dogs but not the ones that attack you or their dumb owners.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 11:54 pm
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My wife, who was behind me, but in front of the dog, shortly after it came at us, sprayed it with water from her bottle, which luckily worked.


 
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I'm getting a big dog to go riding with me now after that clip!

I would have gone straight for the eyes though or a big right hand hook on the top of its head!

Might be worth dressing in full body armour just to go to the shops!


 
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What you need a big fat guy to kick the dogs head in:


 
Posted : 10/03/2009 12:01 am
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to be honest when I see a dog I slow right down and go past like the fonz! Keep a good distance though! They can tell if you're shitting yourself.

The other way is to run spikes like the roman chariots! Turn it into a stump jumper!


 
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+1 for the am dram screaming. Remind me never to mess with police dogs.

giddyrob They can tell if you're shitting yourself.

Y'know people always say that, but I've yet to be convinced - it would be nearly impossible to prove at any rate. I grew up with dogs of all shapes and sizes (christ that sounds weird) so I feel like I have no fear of any dog - hasnt stopped dogs acting aggressively towards me.

It has benefited me though in that I feel I can tell when a dog is acting aggressive/defensive out of fear, or simply because it's overly aggressive and act accordingly.


 
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i don't mean they have a sixth sense. Just that if you are confident with them I find they respond better. I used to shit myself near dogs when I was a kid and they ran after me.

I did have a little dog chase me in the woods last year, which was annoying, but soon got rid of it with a right boot! Don't think that would have worked on a bigger on though.


 
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When I was a kid, I had an old version of Richard's Bicycle Book, which has an excellent section on how to kill a dog. Suggestions include:

Jamming your pump down its throat
"Any small dog can simply be hoisted up by his legs and his brains dashed out"
Offer a pump or a stick for it to bite, and when it locks on: "Follow up with with breaking the dogs ribs or crushing its head with a rock."
"If worst comes to worst, ram your entire arm down his throat. He will choke and die. Better your arm than your throat."

Apparently later editions of the book had this advice edited out....


 
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Best vid yet: LOL


 
Posted : 10/03/2009 12:17 am
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LOL!!!

that dog is sooooooooooooooo shit!

quality!


 
Posted : 10/03/2009 12:19 am
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you think dog bites are bad!!!

Watch out for police cats! nimble little bastards:

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Ahh! who is going to adopt that cat now....friendly little guy biting your nuts off.

Maplin do a dog chaser for £15

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Get that cat, keep him in your camelback, if you see Benjamin the pitbull or one of his pals approaching, simply unleash ninjacat to "own" the dog!
(no bombers required, just a tin of kitikat) 🙂


 
Posted : 10/03/2009 2:24 am
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bang on! that cat has got some serious combat speed + if that dog has any balls pus will be right on em in a flash! Ouch!


 
Posted : 10/03/2009 2:40 am
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GNAR GNAR as a point your life is on the fence so kick the ****er with whatever you have, foot, fist, bike, rock.

I shall imagine that a big wack with the bash ring should teach it manners.


 
Posted : 10/03/2009 7:22 am
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it's another good reason to be at the front of the group, therefore always cycle with someone slower... 😀


 
Posted : 10/03/2009 7:32 am