Andrew Tate

I DO all that shit and still hadn’t heard of him outside STW.

Same, though I’m not sure the agorithm could make that jump from Linus Tech Tips and Donut.

As a dad of 3 young boys and a daughter

I’m very worried about the kind of influence these influencer shitehawks have

I’ve been aware of the toxic parasite for some time, via multiple news sources coming through my Flipboard feeds. Because of his past as a cage fighter, and his macho posturing, he very much appeals to the kids who are losers, who get picked on by the jocks who are good at sports, are good looking, and who get the best looking girls, who in turn laugh at the losers. Who then develop a mindset that the Tates of this world are very, very good at manipulating, and making large amounts of money from.
I’d hope Tate and his vile associates end up incarcerated in an oubliette, and forgotten by the rest of the world.

Weird thing is my pals 20 yr old is not a loser at all.  He is good looking, tall, sporty and popular,  still got sucked in

How times have changed. When I was a sporty kid my hero was John Noakes.

The Tates seem to be wholly loathsome. I hope that justice is served and if they’re found guilty they are duly punished.

When a friend questioned a couple of pupils in school about why they considered Tate to be a role model it escalated into his family having to move into a safe house and have police protection due to the threats that he received from Tate’s followers.

Having seen Tate’s influence first hand I am hopeful that the Romanian authorities do a very thorough job indeed.

As a dad of 3 young boys and a daughter

I’m very worried about the kind of influence these influencer shitehawks have

I agree, but the only way that’s solved is for the political will to regulate the internet to be found

Not easy

Every time Andrew Tate trends, this goes back up. pic.twitter.com/ZHLa9H3yoU

— Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) October 5, 2023

https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-tate-romanian-court-rules-trial-of-influencer-accused-of-human-trafficking-can-go-ahead-13123383

“In March, a Romanian court approved a request from Britain to extradite the Tate brothers on allegations of sexual aggression dating back to 2012-15, but only after the completion of Romanian trial proceedings.”

I did not know this. They’ve got themselves in quite a pickle.

Yeah, I saw that a while back but wasn’t entirely sure of the implications. I mean to say, did it imply they will do time over here if found guilty, instead of in Romania? I’ve no idea.

Presumably they are two separate cases – one for alledged crimes in Romania and another one for alledged crimes in the UK.

If found guilty in both countries I would expect them to be punished in both countries.

At least they might have something to look forward to when languishing in a Romanian prison – a possible upgrade care of HMP

Tate has pretty much come out as gay, allegedly, by saying having sex with a woman for any reason other than for producing children is gay.

If this is actually true, then there’s only one conclusion to be drawn.

To be fair, that is kinda the logical conclusion if you extrapolate a misogynist world view to its logical end point.

At least it’ll help him enjoy prison a bit more I suppose.

I saw those Tate tweets, I can’t decide if he’s trolling or just really really stupid

I saw those Tate tweets, I can’t decide if he’s trolling or just really really stupid

They’re not mutually exclusive.

He’s going to be a popular chap in prison

(all IMO so feel free to correct me on any of this!) For me, schools etc seem to be fighting the battle against Tate types using the wrong method.

Instead of just stating that Tate is wrong (which he is) about his treatment of women etc, which I’m assuming gets overshadowed by teenage boys seeing his mansions, fast cars and model “girlfriends”, there should be more emphasis on the courses/memberships he sells, all of which promise “Get Rich quick” using the same old outdated methods.

I think Coffeezilla did a piece on him which showed that the only way you make money from his courses is by promoting the courses themselves and earning commission. (hence all the spam on social media).

If young people can be educated that the only way Tate is really making money is at the expense of his followers, that his courses are all scams (pay high profile Youtubers to honestly review them) and that the controversial statements he makes are just to gain attention and scam more followers then this will surely have a greater effect than a “Don’t be like him, ignore his houses/cars, he’s not nice” approach?

It’s basically just a pyramid scheme unless I’m missing something?

It’s basically just a pyramid scheme unless I’m missing something?

Dont think it technically is since it just has a single layer of paying commissions rather than each subordinate continually getting a cut of their subordinates and their subordinates payments.

Its the classic get rich quick course which has one lesson “publish an ad for your course and send this to anyone who responds”.

Tate has pretty much come out as gay, allegedly, by saying having sex with a woman for any reason other than for producing children is gay.

Sex for procreation only is a key plot driver of Margaret Atwood’s the Handmaid’s Tale. It’s also a view of parts of the pro-life agenda.

So whilst it is stupid, Tate is far from the only one to manage to reconcile (or miss) the contradiction, unfortunately.

So the right response to toxic masculinity and sexual predation is…rape jokes? Okay…

The stupid genomic proclamations about being a hungry tiger etc are a sales technique. It attracts attention. 1% of those attracted will click through to his self-help packages. That’s still 100 times more people that would click through if he were saying “buy my self-help package”. Whether he is clever enough to know how stupid the things he says are is a mystery.

Yeah someone said it before me but I always think it’s a bit chilling that any conversation about incarceration goes hand in hand with jokes about violent, man-on-man rape.

And I’m not even an STW pearl clutcher.

Not directly related to Tate but the BBC have an excellent programme called “How to save an incel”. Really interesting and compassionate, it looks at the self loathing of some young men, how that leads them to incel forums and how some have managed to make it out through there own self help groups.

https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/proginfo/2024/18/how-to-save-an-incel

Yeah someone said it before me but I always think it’s a bit chilling that any conversation about incarceration goes hand in hand with jokes about violent, man-on-man rape.

Jokes about “man-on-man rape” are different from situational sexuality that often occurs in incarcerated populations.

It is interesting and somewhat ironic that sex for procreation rather than enjoyment is highly improbable for incarcerated males in a male prisons.

Tate has pretty much come out as gay,

Interesting, that is unlikely to impress his huge Muslim fan base, I would have thought.

And I can’t imagine Tate saying anything in public without considering the personal financial consequences of his comments.

I’d almost forgotten that he existed. Has his ability to post and create content been reduced massively in light of his current circumstances? If he’s guilty I hope they throw the book at him. He comes across like an absolute arse and despicable human being from what I’ve seen of him.

Just seen him referred to as Eunuch Powell in relation to a swimwear picture.

(I’m in no place to body shame, but **** him)

Apparently the right wing headbangers now think he’s trans.

It’s all toxic and horrid but…  as said before, sod him. This is squarely into ‘leopards eating faces’ territory.

Hoist by his own petard.

I couldn’t care less.

I often wonder what the families of any perpetrators think following despicable offences. Bringing your child up then seeing them become a monster as an adult.

Do you think his mum sits of an evening and wonders how she managed to raise some misogynistic f**knuggets?