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  • Premier Icon el_boufador
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    Hello, First off, I don’t really want to open the whole wheel size debate.
    I have seen a couple of deals on 26 inch frames that have got me sorely tempted. What is the current view on availability of good quality rims and tyres in the coming years?

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    My plan having got a new 26″ bike 9 months ago. Bike is for 4-5 years so 3-4 left (still on original rims)

    Rims when supply looks bad buy 2 sets maybe 3.
    Same with tyres

    Fork if needed a 650b fork should be able to be made to work.

    Everything else is not wheels size dependent. A good 26″ bike with a hefty discount will still be better than a bad 650b at RRP.

    mindmap3
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    I think you’ll be fine.

    Tyres will still be available, maybe not the latest and greatest but good solid tyres will still be available because the molds will still be there. You can still get rims for rim brakes so rims should be able to get rims for your current wheels.

    There’ll still be good second hand forks kicking about too.

    Premier Icon BillOddie
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    Wheel wise, it’ll be fine.

    I wouldn’t buy a bike with an 1 1/8 headset though.

    Premier Icon darrenspink
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    You may of course be able to put 650b wheels on the frame. Bit of a google and you may find someone who has tried all ready.

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    I wouldn’t buy a bike with an 1 1/8 headset though.

    This, unless you plan on fitting a rigid fork once the supply of decent straight steerer forks dries up.

    It already seems to be unusual to see decent, reduced price straight steerer forks on CRC/Merlin/On-one/etc and I think if you’r elookign to replace with a 650B at some point in the future as 26″ forks disappear it’ll be taper or nothing.

    Premier Icon el_boufador
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    Thanks all, hadn’t thought about forks but yes 650b I think will be fine. Good point about rim brakes. I guess so long as there is demand, some enterprising soul will fill the gap in the market.

    twohats
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    26″ Tires and rims will be around for quite a while mainly because the vast majority of MTBers are on 26″.

    Premier Icon ratherbeintobago
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    I wouldn’t buy a bike with an 1 1/8 headset though.

    This.

    Premier Icon miketually
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    Before 650b became the Next Big Thing in MTB wheelsizes, it was an anachronistic defunct touring wheel size. Wheels are tyres were available.

    Premier Icon roverpig
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    Exactly, 650b isn’t a new invention and even when hardly anybody was using it you could still find rims and tyres, so finding spares for a wheelsize that is still used by millions is never going to be an issue.

    Whatever frame you buy now (regardless of the size of the wheels) wont be compatible with some standard (forks, brakes, bottom bracket etc) in a few years time. So, why focus on the wheels?

    chilled76
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    Can you still get decent 9 speed drivetrain kit?… Yes

    8 Speed… not really.

    I believe the same will be for 26″ wheels for at least 5 years.

    Premier Icon accu
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    +1
    I don`t care about the wheelsize..and will stick with 26 for the next time anyway..
    but an 1 1/8 argyle fork is now more expensive than a new pike !
    so as said before..I`d be careful with 1 1/8 frames..

    Premier Icon nickc
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    I believe the same will be for 26″ wheels for at least 5 years.

    50p says it’ll be considerably longer than that

    95% or more of all the worlds mountain bikes have 26″ wheels it would be a brave manufacturer who steps away from that market

    Premier Icon ratherbeintobago
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    There are plenty of 1?” frames out there – Inbreds & Singulars spring to mind. It would put me off though.

    deanfbm
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    It’s sort of verging on stoner paranoia worrying about 26 stuff, ie, made up twoddle.

    You’ll have no problem at all getting good 26 wheels/forks/tyres for years to come.

    However, some manufacturers may not make the latest new big thing in a 26 format in the next few years, but i think even that is erring on the side of paranoia.

    PS, buy something right, don’t buy just cos it’s on sale, is what you’re looking at on sale the right thing for you?

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    There are plenty of 1?” frames out there – Inbreds & Singulars spring to mind. It would put me off though.

    Nobody said frames were in short supply, fitting the tapered forks in them is tough.

    Premier Icon ratherbeintobago
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    Aye; DT have stopped making non-tapered forks; they won’t be the last manufacturer to go down that route.

    woodsman
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    Fox are still listing new 1 1/18th 26 forks.

    I spoke to Mojo about this, and they initially laughed but, said perhaps in time although the majority of their forks listed are for 26. They have a huge stock of steerer units and lowers – you can still get canti-mount lowers for the first generation Fox 26 forks new! Also, they did say that 650B forks have a chassis that can be used for 26. And, of course if you have 1 1/8th then fit a Chriss king headset -nuff said!

    I wouldn’t say it’s not a concern but the market will decide the future of 26, if you go with the hype as manufacturers want, all buy a new bike in 650 or 29 flavour!

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    Yes I think you’ll be fine. There are many of us riding 26 with no interest in changing. I have a 1 1/8 headset frame waiting to be built up too using spare wheels and I have lots of tyres. If the industry moves to 27.5 only they’ll lose a lot of my business as I’ll buy secondhand.

    Superficial
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    Considering that all DH / DJ bikes are still 26″ and there doesn’t seem to be the huge push to change, I think 26″ will be around for a long while yet. I don’t think we’ll run out of tyres.

    Premier Icon zippykona
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    Good point on the headset size. We should get our knickers in a twist over that rather than wheel size.
    Wish you could still get bolt in steerers ,would make everyone’s lives so much easier.

    Premier Icon el_boufador
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    Thanks again, it has a tapered head tube so should be OK in that regard. I don’t give a monkeys about wheel size.

    Premier Icon BillOddie
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    I wouldn’t buy a bike with an 1 1/8 headset though.

    The irony that I did just that back in January is not lost on me. I don’t plan to fit suspension forks to it though.

    bmike
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    It is getting difficult to get decent 26″ rim brake rims now though. I think most of what is available is old stock. But I guess cheap oem rims are still being made for cheap 26″ bikes that don’t come with disc brakes?

    My guess is 26″ disc rims will still be obtainable for 10 years after 650b takes off properly. Tyres for much longer, but in a reduced range possibly.

    Premier Icon amedias
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    It is getting difficult to get decent 26″ rim brake rims now though

    It really isn’t.

    Mavic are still making 117s, 317s, 717s, 719s and that’s just one manufacturer, there’s plenty out there and not just OEM.

    Premier Icon iainc
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    Cotic are still selling loads of Soul’s – that says enough for me (having bought one last May 🙂 )

    scottfitz
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    there is still loads more tyre choice in 26″ than 650B. Take the Maxxis MTB range for instance.

    17 26″
    10 650B
    10 29″

    Go for it buy a 26″ bike

    Premier Icon BigJohn
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    I guess 26″ will still be going after 29″ and 650b have finished.

    I recently got a lovely pair of 27″ tyres for my pub bike, but I think they were NOS. Oddly enough, the rims are bigger than 29″ rims.

    soobalias
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    And, of course if you have 1 1/8th then fit a Chriss king headset -nuff said!

    dont understand this, is it that the CK headset will last forever, or is there some weird CK extender type headset that allows a tapered steerer in a straight 11/8th headtube

    scratch that – now ive typed it, its kinda obvious.

    woodsman
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    I think you’ve got the idea anyway sooballas, but King still make and sell all the previous standards and parts including 1 inch headsets. Plus as I suggest they last, I’ve got them on all my bikes, some new (15 years) and some second hand. Prise the seals off (new ones available) and re-grease every 5 or so years or once a decade as in my case and all is good! My experience anyway.

    Premier Icon accu
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    so true…
    they even sell a 1 1/4 headset until today..
    an old (yeti) standard from the early 90ies

    Premier Icon darrenspink
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    Just read this again from last year…

    DH are now changing over http://m.vitalmtb.com/news/news/George-Brannigan-Wins-First-Ever-National-DH-Title-on-a-650B-Bike,713

    The 26in wheel, I’m afraid, is suddenly, inexplicably, going to disappear virtually overnight on production bikes of any quality. This is not conjecture. This is going to happen.

    http://singletrackworld.com/blogs/2013/04/a-time-of-change/

    Premier Icon psling
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    The thing is that most of us on STW are leisure/sport users seeking higher-end products from a range of businesses pandering to the must-have-latest-spec market.
    Meanwhile the greater percentage of people riding bicycles in the world are likely to be riding 26″ wheeled bikes, probably rim-braked. Rims, spokes, tubes & tyres in 26″ flavour will be available for years to come. The worldwide market for them is just too large to ignore. It’s only the high-end lightweight bling stuff that will likely fade away, probably in favour of 650.
    IMO 8)

    Premier Icon darrenspink
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    We all just need to watch Halfords as an indicator. Soon as they stop selling 26″ the games up.

    Premier Icon ratherbeintobago
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    The thing is that most of us on STW are leisure/sport users seeking higher-end products from a range of businesses pandering to the must-have-latest-spec market.
    Meanwhile the greater percentage of people riding bicycles in the world are likely to be riding 26″ wheeled bikes, probably rim-braked. Rims, spokes, tubes & tyres in 26″ flavour will be available for years to come. The worldwide market for them is just too large to ignore. It’s only the high-end lightweight bling stuff that will likely fade away, probably in favour of 650.
    IMO

    This.

    Premier Icon curiousyellow
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    @psling

    You just made me cry 🙁

    Premier Icon aracer
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    el_boufador wrote:

    Hello, First off, I don’t really want to open the whole wheel size debate.

    Which one gets it?

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