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  • 2019 UCI XCO MTB… (spoiler alert)
  • Kryton57
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    So the short track kicked off on Friday, Kate Courtney looked very strong tactically and physically and Nino’s been off his pace through the winter.  MVDP looked very strong and punchy to win the men’s short track.

    Full Womans XCO kicks of 10am Sunday all in Red Bull TV, here we go…

    qwerty
    Free Member

    I’m guessing at Langvad & VdP FTWs.

    I’ll be watching on catch up later 🙈🙉

    john_l
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    Well, this is looking interesting!

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    It certainly is.  I’m thinking theres going to be some surprises in the Mens race also.

    Kuco
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    Annie Last 🙁

    qwerty
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    Isla Short in 22nd is good progress for her.

    weeksy
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    That turned into a slip slop fest!

    dawson
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    Cracking race for MvdP to fight his way back. I suspect that Nino went out hard to force MvdP to blow up, but in the end it backfired as Nino came off worse.

    Kryton57
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    It’s was a great race, nice to see it mixed up a bit.  Schurter confirms you thoughts on Instagram Dawson, and also adds he couldn’t, stay with the pace after he’d been passed.  A shame that Lars fell, I wonder if he’s the new Nino, because whatever Scott did to train him and Courtney has raised their game a fair bit.

    So, is it long live the king…  or will Nino reign in next weeks more technical terrain?

    weeksy
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    They’re most impressive aren’t they ! LOL

    MvdP shocked me again by his comeback… I’m sitting there thinking “nah, he’s not got it today….” but he pulled it back most impressively with great pacing.

    Course seemed a lot better than the Sprint layout anyway. But it does turn into a crapfest when it rains there LOL.

    Neff is a bit tasty on the downhill stuff LOL… i bet she’d trounce the lot of us on a downhill section !

    jb89
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    @weeksy There’s some interesting videos on Red Bull tv – season summary/preview type things – that look at this. She’s head and shoulders above the others on the dh, gains so much time!

    Trimix
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    Brilliant racing.

    I was left a bit opened mouthed after watching the short track once I worked out their avarage speed.

    The men were lapping the short course in just over 2 mins, so if my maths are correct, thats over 55km/h per hour right !

    I tired to ride my road bike – on the road – on a flat section, as fast as I could. For a short period of time I saw just over 40km/h. How they manage that sort of speed, for 20 mins, off road up hills and on fat tyres is pretty impressive.

    What sort of FTP do they have, as the short track is not techy, their speed must be due to power more than skill.

    qwerty
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    Zone entered:

    Pro hands free snot rocket

    weeksy
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    The men were lapping the short course in just over 2 mins, so if my maths are correct, thats over 55km/h per hour right !

    Nah, not having that for a second. At the TDF they’re happy doing that for a shortish TT on the road… No chance on the trails, even nicely groomed ones like the short circuit.

    I’d love to be proven wrong though.

    steve_b77
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    What sort of FTP do they have, as the short track is not techy, their speed must be due to power more than skill.

    Well over 400W I’d say, considering MvdP was up over 800W peaking at something like 1400W when he won Amstel Gold and Sam Gaze reportedly puts out the most wattage on the UCI MTB circuit so he must be hitting mega watts, considering he’s frankly massive for a pro cyclist at 6’2″ and 85kg

    mos
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    The article below from a couple of years ago says 400W, i’d bet its higher now.

    The Natural: Mathieu Van der Poel is the most talented bike racer on the planet

    Jamze
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    Haven’t watch racing for years – really enjoyed this weekend’s XCC/XCO.

    The men were lapping the short course in just over 2 mins, so if my maths are correct, thats over 55km/h per hour right !

    Nah, not having that for a second. At the TDF they’re happy doing that for a shortish TT on the road… No chance on the trails, even nicely groomed ones like the short circuit.

    I’d love to be proven wrong though.

    AFAIK an XCC course is 2km. Van Der Poel did 9 laps, his time was 20:28. Working it out in my head that’s an average speed over 50km/h – 30mph?? Can that be right? Amazing if so.

    barrykellett
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    Victor Koretzky did 19.1mph. With watts for stat nerds:
    https://www.strava.com/activities/2375138000/analysis

    Which is frankly, nuts

    Jamze
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    AFAIK an XCC course is 2km.

    Not the case then looking at those Strava stats. Just over a km per lap, explains the superhuman average speed I worked out 🙂 Still mind-boggling though.

    Kuco
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    Impressed with Malene Degn getting a top 10 in her first Elite race.

    paton
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    Mathieu van der Poel winning 2018 Dutch national road race championship in style

    Kryton57
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    Nino’s posted some numbers on Insta, qualified by it being wet and slippery:

    Average NP: 368w

    Start Loop NP: 461w

    Average NP on the long climb: 421w

    Nino’s weight @ 68kg

    This means he raced with an average NP of 5.4w/KG!

    steve_b77
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    How the chuffin’ hell do you take a hand off your bars and shove someone out of the way mid-sprint?!?!?!?!

    That’s some serious wattage from Nino, given that he didn’t win MVDP must be approaching 6W/KG as their handling skills are pretty much on a par

    steve_b77
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    Just watched the short track, MVDP seems to do what he wants when he wants, should be an excellent season. It’ll be good when Gaze is back for a power shoot out

    scaredypants
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    Odd race, that “main” XCO (men & women) – venue looks tame but then somebody greased it while nobody was looking ! The fall on the boardwalk by one of the women was nasty.
    Not sure it does much for predicting the season’s outcome.

    My guess is they might drop the venue or move to mid-summer as I think it was much the same last year, wasn’t it ?

    weeksy
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    It was consderably worse last year yes. They did make it a lot ‘better’ in some ways, but removed masses of character in the process. I’d certainly think about moving the date, but then again there’s no reason in May it has to be soaked, it’s not like we’ve had much rain in the UK/Europe mostly.. but certain bits, wrong time…. yup, mud-fest.

    Kuco
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    That was an exciting womens race.

    Jamze
    Full Member

    It was. Courtney v. impressive this year so far. Coverage seems to be missing key points in the race? Courtney flatting early on, then Tauber’s mechanicals from the lead on the last lap (how do you miss that?)

    Kuco
    Full Member

    Gutted for Anne Tauber she was going so well.

    Jamze
    Full Member

    Agreed. Was building up to a tense finish – Tauber off her bike and running up that elite climb, Courtney catching but tiring…

    Kuco
    Full Member

    WTF where the racing gone?

    Jamze
    Full Member

    WTF where the racing gone?

    What the RBTV stream? Working here.

    Kuco
    Full Member

    Mine changed to some freeride film, had to close the app and re-launch it.

    qwerty
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    Yesssssssssssss.

    Kuco
    Full Member

    That some pace they kept up for 7 laps.

    dawson
    Full Member

    Boom! Get in!

    snotrag
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    The way VDP gapped Nino on that last lap was incredible!

    dovebiker
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    Booom – MVdP took 15 seconds out of Schurter on that last climb. Even if he waiting for the sprint, Schurter couldn’t really expect a different outcome.

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