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  • chrisski33
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    My kona big honzo 27.5 came with 2.8 tyres however i find them terrible on wet roots and rocks so thinking of moving to 2.4 or 2.6 tyres.

    What really is the difference?

    MrTricky
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    Which tyres are you running? I’ve had no problems with Dirt Wizards, in 2.8 or 3.0 sizes

    chrisski33
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    Wtb rangers

    johnhe
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    I love my Purgatory 2.6 tyres on a hard tail. But admittedly, they need to be run at 13-15 psi. At those pressures, the amount of grip is amazing. But at 25psi, they feel just like normal tyres.

    Brainflex
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    Rangers, there’s your problem! What pressure you running in them? It makes a huge difference having the right pressure for your riding. Experiment a little.

    chrisski33
    Free Member

    So the tyres are the problem? I tend to have them at top end of pressure but tried them softer and no better tbh. Also feels like riding a fat bike.

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    colournoise
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    2.8 Rangers are great on the back at the right pressure (there does seem to only be a 2 or 3 psi window for this), but on the front they’re utterly terrifying at any pressure!

    Grab a 2.8 Vigilante for the front. Run that combo on two bikes and it’s great once you get your pressures dialled in.

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    chrisski33
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    At £80 the Vigilante better be good lol

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    Northwind
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    So the thing is basically that grippy 2.8s are also pretty draggy. And if you want them to grip in mud, even more so because 2.8s are naturally floaty. Like, even a fairly low-grip combo like a 2.8 nobby nic/racing ralph is pretty much as draggy as a pair of minion 2.4s. That’s obviously not a fair comparison, the big tyres bring something really different and interesting to the table and I really enjoyed that despite the inevitable drawbacks, but you’ve got to be realistic about it. Grippy front, slippy back can work pretty well.

    And also I think there’s a bit of market-led stuff here that the average 2.8 tyred bike probably doesn’t get ridden very hard, so the tyres naturally bias towards more speed/less grip, and lower weight. (which was a killer for me for most tyres, I kept having to run them too hard to keep the air in and to make them corner and that just took away so much of the actual benefit of 2.8. I’d always choose a 2.4 over a lightweight 2.8 that had to be pumped up hard, always. But there are good options out there even if you’re like me and demanded that they basically could be used for my normal riding and not just kill me at the golfy.

    (if you want a laugh, get a 2.8 wild enduro in the heaviest, stickiest version. Rolls like a paving slab, just astonishingly slow. But it magically found grip places that I’ve never had grip, with the combination of spikes and softness and the big footprint, and the sidewall’s stiff enough to allow for pretty low pressures. Most of the time it was just really hard work, but just occasionally it was like voodoo, and in particular that was always on stuff that normal sane 2.8s are awful at)

    futonrivercrossing
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    Is there room to go bigger? At 3.25” the Duro Crux is a great tyre.

    intheborders
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    What actual model of WTB Ranger, and what pressure?

    Might be crap tyres, might be user error 🙂

    elray89
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    Lol @northwind – On my first hardtail I had the 2.8 Wild Enduros. They looked like motocross tires but absolute joke how much grip they give you.

    Was great until for various stupid reasons I ended up bikepacking the West Highland Way on them. I think my calories burned was probably double that of a normal tyre and the gravel sections (so like 80 percent of it) were absolutely torturous.

    futonrivercrossing
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    Rim size is important too 50mm

    pressure should be about 14 psi

    BadlyWiredDog
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    I used a Ranger briefly, thought it was a bit meh tbh. Minion DFH 2.8 front, Rewkon+ 2.8 rear is pretty good. lots of grip, not too slow, but it depends what/where/how you ride. Plus tyres are great in the Dark Peak which is all rocks and few corners, I wouldn’t use them if I lived somewhere smooth and bermed I think.

    I’d be wary of losing ground clearance if you drop down to 2.4, but I don’t know what that bike’s like. Anyway, I’d try a better 2.8 first and see what you think. Maybe have a trawl through eBay and see what’s around.

    abingham
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    In my experience, (as has been said above) plus tyres are very sensitive to tyre pressure. I’ve had Rekon+, Nobby Nicks, and currently Ritchey Z-Max in 2.8 – 3.0 flavours and they’ve all needed to be pretty low pressure to get the best out of them. I’m 58kgs in my riding kit and run about 12PSI front and 15PSI rear in the Ritcheys and that’s just right for me.

    Del
    Full Member

    Suggest going to 29er front. I’ve run full 29, 29 and 27.5+, and 27.5+ front and rear on the same bike. The mullet or full 29 is the better bet, which one depends on a variety of factors. I’ll never use the plus front wheel again.

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    Northwind
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    elray89
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    Was great until for various stupid reasons I ended up bikepacking the West Highland Way on them. I think my calories burned was probably double that of a normal tyre and the gravel sections (so like 80 percent of it) were absolutely torturous.

    I’d have thrown it in loch lomond and walked home I think

    chrisski33
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    I wont be changing wheel sizes as that just throws in more questions and expense (plus doesnt answer 2.8 or 2.6 tyres lol)

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