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Zilog - i think i gave you a ride on earlier tonight. I jumped on zwift testing the new tacx and saw your name at the top of the ride list so jumped on with you but turbo started howling so abandoned.
Well I hope they've got some left; I'm 90% there after tonightzilog6128 - Member
beat ya!!
Can anyone explain zwiftpower's data to me ?
Did a TT as a B tonight & struggled to hold 300w. Strava has me at a very plausible 295w for 20 min but zwiftpower (the "live" button) thinks I averaged 325 for a 25 min ride. It has correctly described me as having a power meter, so shouldn't be "calculating" anything, should it ?
Will it calm down tomorrow or am I going to be shoved into cat A ? 🙄
Thanks for the ride on scaredypants. That was my first race in a few weeks at it showed! Started well and stuck with a group for the first half lap but then dropped back fast and couldn't get above 200w for a while with HR only 145bpm. Was last by a minute 1/3 of the up the epic kom, but somehow shook my way out of the slump and caught the guy in front. Calibrated by trainer after, it was a bit loose which didn't help.
Zwiftpower always reads too high on the live results.
no worries - looked like a long old grind, all on your own (I got one during my TT too, just as I was wondering if I should back off - cheers Leeroy, I think !)Thanks for the ride on scaredypants
Thank **** for that !Zwiftpower always reads too high on the live results.
Volcano climb is out apparently........
ta, saw someone gave me a RO but I didn't recognise the name! Hope you get your Tacx sorted - always good to have more STWers out there!Zilog - i think i gave you a ride on earlier tonight. I jumped on zwift testing the new tacx and saw your name at the top of the ride list so jumped on with you but turbo started howling so abandoned.
Volcano climb is out indeed. Its basically a spiral round the outside of the hill ... think similar to the top section of the main mountain where you just loop back to the same road again. It was raining when I got to the top this morning, so couldn't see anything from the top!
https://www.strava.com/segments/14267710?filter=overall
boom. 1/2 in the STW zwifters
for now
until people get home from work...
pfft, I can ride a volcano in Dundee that trumps that piddly little virtual one:
https://www.strava.com/segments/13941456
Do you want a medal?
No, but surely if you are going to make a virtual volcano climb, it should be more like this:
https://www.strava.com/segments/638944?hl=en-GB
why? no one would do it.
Yes, I can tell that by the 2600 people that have taken the time, money and effort to fly their bike across the world to do it irl.
Nice! Will have to see if I get time to have a crack at that today! I'd regard that segment (The Corkscrew) as only temporary though (until Zwiftblog creates a "verified" one).boom. 1/2 in the STW zwifters
No, but surely if you are going to make a virtual volcano climb, it should be more like this:
What I would give to be riding out there now contemplating that climb... 🙂
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[quote=fifeandy ]Yes, I can tell that by the 2600 people that have taken the time, money and effort to fly their bike across the world to do it irl.
I can see the point in taking money, time and effort to fly across the world.
I can't see the point in trying to replicate the experience in my shed.
Nice! Will have to see if I get time to have a crack at that today! I'd regard that segment (The Corkscrew) as only temporary though (until Zwiftblog creates a "verified" one).
that was about 20s slower than my zwift time
I can't see the point in trying to replicate the experience in my shed.
The one I linked is clearly at the large end of the spectrum, but it'd be good for example to have somewhere to replicate training for alpine climbs. A hill where you can do your 3x20 @ Sweetspot session or a 90min solid Tempo block without it being interrupted by downhills. That would be a fabulous training resource for UK based riders as we don't have access to any proper climbs irl.
Surely you can do that already with existing software (BKool, TR, Tacx, etc)? I can't imagine Zwift bothering to implement that anytime soon as it's too niche. Don't reckon there are that many people who want to sit on their turbo for 3+ hrs, let alone going uphill the whole time!
That would be a fabulous training resource for UK based riders as we don't have access to any proper climbs irl
I'm the first to say Zwift ain't real life but you can replicate the long interval or tempo hill climbing on Zwift workouts to a large degree. You can plan your own workouts and despite what the pretty pictures show, in theory you could replicate a very long continuous climb that you couldn't do IRL in the UK. So from that point of view, its not ideal but its a resource nonetheless.
You can plan your own workouts and despite what the pretty pictures show, in theory you could replicate a very long continuous climb that you couldn't do IRL in the UK. So from that point of view, its not ideal but its a resource nonetheless.
Sure you can, but a large part of what differentiates zwift, and really the bit that people are paying for is the immersiveness(new word?!). Its hardly very immersive if the pretty pictures are showing you going down a switchback descent whilst your legs are telling you its a 7% climb.
That happens on the workouts already but it is admittedly a bit odd. Believe me, if I had the time and the money, I'd be off to Tenerife before summer.
i think you are looking for a niche within a niche....
i think you are looking for a niche within a niche....
At which level can I unlock the gnar-core-single-speed-fat-gravel-tour-utility bike?
sorry, you're 2/3 now 🙂boom. 1/2 in the STW zwifters
I expect that trend to continue...
https://www.strava.com/segments/14270131
ZwiftBlog verified version, which I currently don't seem to register on...
I was ready to 'Meh!' it as I don't really enjoy the volcano circuit.
But actually, it's a nice climb- similar length to the regular reverse KOM time wise but a more consistent intensity.
I'll have a proper go next week 🙂
I'm guessing that it'll be possiblke to set it as your initial route on loading and do "laps" of it? Might be decent for intervally-type thingies
Eventually- you have to do a manual turn at the moment lol
pfft - my keyboard's on a flimsy music stand; no chance of a manual anything while actually pedalling, without utter avalanche chaos ensuing
You can ride just past the junction sign, stop, get off and press whichever arrow then get back on. I had to do that this evening as I had no app open 😀
After finishing last in Cat B in my last race (Richmond, yuk!), I've given up on racing for a while and switched to some of the GCN workouts. However, most of their workouts are targeting very specific cadences and very short bursts of power.
I'm having a great deal of trouble maintaining the target cadence and am always being nagged to either speed up or slow down and by the time I get the right cadence, that segment is over. Also, my last session was calling for 600W @ 50rpm. Even slamming the bike into 50 x 11, my Tacx Vortex couldn't generate enough resistance (I could only get the desired power at ~85rpm). Again, by the time I got up to power, the segment was over.
Anyone else having similar problems doing short intense bursts? Im thinking my Vortex isn't up to the job...
BTW: Im ~90kg...
Vortex cadence calculations are notoriously ropey. Use an external cadence sensor.
I find the usable range of the Vortex fairly limited, below about 140W I need to shift into the small chainring and low cadences need to have it in the biggest gear. Generally fairly accurate though on Trainerroad. Is your PC using 2.4GHz WiFi as that really messed with the trainer performance for ne.
Anyone else having similar problems doing short intense bursts? Im thinking my Vortex isn't up to the job...
Sounds very much like it.
600W at low cadence is a pretty big ask.
If you look at the spec sheet for the vortex it says it can do a max of a 7% slope, and its peak power is at 40km/h.
If its any consolation, you'd have no chance of doing it on a fluid trainer either.
Ok i made a 60 mile round trip to exchange my tacx flow for hopefully a working one but when i connect to zwift should i be selecting controllable or power source. Also is it worth selecting my cadence sensor as well given what has been said above about vortex cadence being inaccurate?
Controllable Trainer. Yes, I would connect your cadence sensor. The Flow's algorithm for cadence isn't anywhere near accurate.
Ok i have connected to zwift (taken off cadence for time being as it clashed when pairing but its ok once i have paired) but it wont let me ride unless i have both power source and controllable on. Is this because there is no other sensor and will connecting my cadence resolve that?
Also with zwift is there no longer a need to select a trainer now that i have moved from dumb to smart trainer? I was using a novo force which i selected but i guess this is for virtual power users i take it.
Connect both. Power comes from the power, control from the control.
If its any consolation, you'd have no chance of doing it on a fluid trainer either.
I'm guessing, then, that most of the GCN workouts will only be achievable with high-end trainers...
Having said that, I do have a Wahoo cadence sensor so I'll try that next time
Ho hum
anyone racing this afternoon/evening?
Is there a Singletrack group or something on Zwift? How can I join?
The Friday Criterium have a jersey give away and some prizes if anyone fancies it? 7pm.....