go to your profile and type STW where is says team.
and then you should show up on here:
http://www.zwiftpower.com/team.php?id=756
bugger. got an upgrade tag. 3.4 W/Kg.
no wonder I've only just stopped feeling sick...
Cheers. I'm in. Well done on the upgrade!
I lost the other 2 in the group when you dropped back, you were 15s back at one point and then 20s ahead, you did well to get back and they where only a few seconds ahead of us in the end. That bloke who joined us for a while came from nowhere then then he zoomed off on the big climb and finished minutes ahead.
@jambo surely an upgrade tag is a good thing! Nice work 🙂
Yep. Although not sure how riders in the same group for the entire race managed to sneak under the limit. I was sitting in as much as I could.
The 'winner' crossed the line 2s behind me.
Definitely got lucky catching the group that came past. I wasn't getting back without them. Then all of a sudden, turned a bend and you lot were there and then I flew past but couldn't quite sustain it and you came back and held me off at the line. Quite nice to finish on the same time after riding together for the best part of the race. Cracking ride that. Will try and do more of the EVRs now.
Smarter not harder Jam bo 😉
The 2nd placed B in KISS EU last Tuesday only used 3.3 🙂
Yeah. I get that but not sure where I could have saved a lot. Only one spot where I put in what I'd say unnecessary effort in when I went for a flyer up the climb out of the tunnel on the last lap but couldn't hold the 3-4s gap I pulled on the main group. Apart from that I was just about hanging on the rest of the time and had bugger all left for the sprint.
You almost need to meter out every pedal stroke. Use real life tactics. Only move forward on someone's wheel, never take pulls on the front, attack every rise or small hill full gas, do the bare minimum on the downs and bridge across to the next bunch the second you have recovered.
And slaughter the start- with an Aero PU. (EVR are KISS rules aren't they?).
This was the KISS C race. Strava scan is complete and adjusted me down to 3.1. I reckon I'll get 2nd place once the results finalise.
I was just happy to be able to stick with the lead group for most of the race. Just wish I had a bit more left at the finish as I lost nearly 7 places and 7 seconds in the last 750m. Felt like I was going backwards.
Well that was interesting.
I was on the line about 14 minutes ahead of race start, so did some little sprint intervals and generally kept the legs moving, started upping the power with about 20 seconds to start and somehow managed to jump away from the group in first place at about 400W!
...only for about five seconds though, I was quickly caught and there followed about two minutes of "this is stupid, I can't keep this power up for ten minutes, let alone an hour" before things calmed down a bit and I hung on to the front pack. Although not for long, I got dropped about 2/3 way round the first lap, but ended up in a... whatever the opposite of breakaway is, just two of us about 40s behind the lead group but about 1m ahead of the grupetto.
And that was the way it stayed for a lap and a half, more or less. C Stoddart of Canada and I traded places and the gaps stayed the same to the front and the group behind, although something started feeling a bit weird half-way through the second lap. There's a tiny rise in the road on the way toward the volcano and my power numbers started dropping - I could feel the rear tyre slipping on the turbo. I knew I'd pumped it up and wondered if I'd forgotten to adjust the roller tension or something. It didn't seem to happen on the flat and as long as I kept an even pedal movement without jerking it was fine, but anything over about 250W and it started slipping.
Anyway, Stoddart and I stayed together (though he seemed to be on my wheel more than I was on his!) until he dropped me about 2km from the finish - we were both upping the pace and I just couldn't stop the tyre slipping, so I ended up finishing about 10s behind him, knackered but pretty pleased with how I'd done.
And then I checked the turbo and found I had a flat tyre... bugger. How the hell do you get a puncture on a turbo? I'll find out later.
And it looks like I've got a UPG disqualification with a not-quite believable 3.04 W/kg (I think the flat tyre may have affected the turbo's power reading, I didn't have the Stages on today), but I'm not complaining too much. Looking forward to the next time!
Thanks all for your help so far. 🙂
looks like strava has adjusted you down a bit, enough to not get an UPG tag but zwiftpower doesnt seem to have recognised this. looks like you should be in 7th in D. not bad with a flat.
i got my first trophy!
I had a drafting boost at the start for the first time, made the manic start much easier until I cruised in to 2nd.
@Pierre, some soft compound racing tyres don't play nicely with turbo/rollers, they heat up and the tube bursts - could be a possible puncture source.
@Pierre: I've had multiple punctures on my turbo. No idea why!
Good work jam bo! And thanks for the info - at time of typing, I'm still UPG, I guess Zwiftpower's still importing data. And yes, I feel like I need to work out how to save some energy for the finish.
@fifeandy, thanks - this was a Vittoria turbo tyre, the red one. I'll have a look at it tomorrow.
@ Jambo, 3rd mate, bloody good work.
@Pierre, i've raced and ridden with Stoddart before too 🙂 We had a cracking battle once upon a tiem 🙂
What's the plans for everyone today ?
I'm on an enforced rest day as i couldn't get over to Luton at the weekend to see my mum, so off over today instead. Which means i won't be home until 8pm or so... So no riding..Which is a good thing.
Tomorrows plan is Parkwood and pushing to or even past 1hr 30min on the turbo.
My legs don't actually feel too bad (perhaps I wasn't trying hard enough!) so I'm actually contemplating the KISS Europe at 8:05. In cat C, just to experience what being fully shelled out the back feels like, probably.
btw, the puncture appeared to be a random rupture of the inner tube at the join. Let's hope tonight goes better...
discovered zwiftrankings last night. some pretty interesting graphs if you like that sort of thing...
http://zwiftrankings.com/vcr/client/racer/9733/lifetime/all/2
Pierre - MemberAnd then I checked the turbo and found I had a flat tyre... bugger. How the hell do you get a puncture on a turbo? I'll find out later.
Good to hear it's not just me! I've had two punctures so far on the turbo trainer...
I think the first one was a bit of grit in the tyre had been pushed through by the roller into the tube and eventually punctured it.
The second one was a previous puncture repair - the patch was peeling off. I bought some cheap patches from ebay & they are rubbish - a bugger to put on & don't seem to stay attached very well.
So, they're going in the bin....
I've never had much success with self-adhesive patches, they're a half-decent get-you-home measure but if you want a permanent repair, the old school glue and patch method is best. The glue is "vulcanising rubber solution", which partly liquefies the inner tube and the patch so that they become as near as possible to one continuous piece of rubber*, which forms a much better long-term seal.
*NB may contain not very accurate sub-GCSE chemistry.
jam bo - Member
discovered zwiftrankings last night. some pretty interesting graphs if you like that sort of thing...http://zwiftrankings.com/vcr/client/racer/9733/lifetime/all/2
Yeah that was posted a few pages back (20 or so 😆 )
Interestingly I appear to be cat 1 now... http://zwiftrankings.com/vcr/client/racer/98508/lifetime/all/1
You're ranked a couple of places higher than Andrew Talansky 🙂
I'll need to get back in and complete more racing if that's my goal.
I'm in a bit of a quandry with that though at the moment, well, indeed with my training in general.
Do i do race/intensity.... Or do i do the longer slower plodding .... OK, so it's not necessarily plodding, it's 180w-220w for example, but for longer times....
It's a question i've run out of answers to in all honesty...
i THINK that longer/slower is the way forward for me... but am i correct... i don't actually know.
What are you training for, weeksy? If it's racing, my limited training knowledge would suggest that doing more racing would be a very good way of training.
As Graham Obree said, more or less, "yes I could do interval training, but nobody competes in an interval race."
Do i do race/intensity.... Or do i do the longer slower plodding .... OK, so it's not necessarily plodding, it's 180w-220w for example, but for longer times....It's a question i've run out of answers to in all honesty...
i THINK that longer/slower is the way forward for me... but am i correct... i don't actually know.
depends on your mentality. I find long slow rides on the turbo awful. even with zwift.
turning myself inside out trying to hang on for an hour is almost fun...
I have no idea which is better for me, but I know which I prefer.
General plan is things like the SDW, White roads 100 miler... So the events that have now become my 'focus' are different to what i thougth they were going to be this time 2-3 months ago.
Back then i was thinking of things like the WGS Enduro event or possibly even Crit racing with NathB and Crosshair as my targets. But i've come to the realisation that from an 'event' perspective it's more likely to be the longer days out than the sprints that get my money and attention. From a generic riding perspective that's been more what i do, along with the trips to Swinley/Afan etc with mates.
I have in the past had times where i think i've been at my 'peak' but as most of my training has been <1hr rides, i've found that once i get to 90-120 mins then i'm really hitting a wall as my body has decided it's already time to finish..
So that's more where i'm thinking my training 'should' go... but i openly admit, i'm not very good at the planning aspect of riding.
It's also entirely possible that these events are not 'ideal' for me, i could sit and think i'd be better in a relative context at Crit stuff, XC Racing... but i don't forsee my riding going that way so much.
On the whole, riding has been about 'being outdoors' along with maintaining/controling my weight... Zwift being an indoors/outdoors thing and bringing in the racing has kind of skewed the thoughts a bit over winter, mostly in a great and brilliant way of course.... but has been a bit of a confusing thing too.
mrblobby
You're ranked a couple of places higher than Andrew Talansky
Clearly missing my true calling here 😆
My understanding of training is build a base "the foundations", then build upon the base with decent recovery in between. Intervals will help quick recovery, and if your aim is to get out in amongst a crit race?, then short sharp increases in paces with quick recoveries are what is required (CH will vouch for that).
Ultimately I think you need to set an objective if you're going down the hardcore training route, if not and you just want to lose weight/increase in fitness then as you are sir (with recovery days to avoid going backwards).
Ultimately I think you need to set an objective if you're going down the hardcore training route, if not and you just want to lose weight/increase in fitness then as you are sir.
Good advice from Nath.
If you want to do longer stuff you need to do longer rides, and you'll need to find more hours in the week. 100mi events on a MTB in any sort of challenging terrain are realistically 8-12hrs, and you can't teach the body to deal with that in 1 hr rides.
Ideally you need to set a date for a target event and work backwards, but even at this stage its time to start working in some endurance. I'd suggest starting with 2x1hr zwift races and 2x2hr z2 sessions. As you move closer to the event it should start to look more like: 1x1hr zwift race, 2x2hr z2, 1x5hr z1-3.
Pierre - MemberI've never had much success with self-adhesive patches, they're a half-decent get-you-home measure but if you want a permanent repair, the old school glue and patch method is best. The glue is "vulcanising rubber solution", which partly liquefies the inner tube and the patch so that they become as near as possible to one continuous piece of rubber*, which forms a much better long-term seal.
Yeah. I always use the old school method of squeezy glue & patches.
I think it's just that the patches I used are rubbish. They are too stiff so don't conform to the tube very well & don't seem sticky in the first place.
I pulled the one that was peeling off & replaced it with an plain black patch from a repair kit - none of this feather edge nonsense. It was much easier to use & was stuck in no time....
I just can't find anywhere that does those style patches anymore apart from 6 in a 'repair kit' for £3.
I can't work out why they now put the clear(ish) layer on top of the patches now, the stuff that's next to impossible to get off... Do people remove that or leave it on ?
Re inner tubes, as bad as this is for the environment; continental race tubes are £2.80 from "Shopto". I repair out in the field then bin and replace with a new one when home (checking the tyre for debris).
I've only done 3 rides over 30 miles since starting Zwift 2 months ago, I'm concerned that I'm training myself to do 1hr flat out efforts but will struggle on longer.
The Strava fitness chart indicates I'm as fit as I ever was last summer which is good but I've not done any club rides to see if I can stick with the fast group for a change.
Re inner tubes, as bad as this is for the environment; continental race tubes are £2.80 from "Shopto". I repair out in the field then bin and replace with a new one when home (checking the tyre for debris).
I do the exact opposite - if I get a puncture when I'm out and about I replace it with a new tube (I always carry 2) then when I get home I fix the punctured tube so it can be used again.
cheers_drive - MemberI've only done 3 rides over 30 miles since starting Zwift 2 months ago, I'm concerned that I'm training myself to do 1hr flat out efforts but will struggle on longer.
The Strava fitness chart indicates I'm as fit as I ever was last summer which is good but I've not done any club rides to see if I can stick with the fast group for a change.
don't get me wrong, when i've ridden outdoors recently since Zwifting, the improvements have been brilliant... it's all better, speed, stamina, fitness, recovery.... It's a golden....
But that doesn't necessarily mean i'm training the best i can... only a lot better than i was 🙂
The longest ride I've done on Zwift so far was 1'15" (one of the FTP builder sessions) and I can't really see me doing much longer than that. I do longer rides outside pretty much every week, however I find rides over an hour on the turbo get pretty uncomfortable, probably 'cause I'm not moving about much.
Anyone had a Wahoo Snap via Apple? Do they still offer a full refund even if the item is used if returned within 14/30 days?
Ultimately I think you need to set an objective if you're going down the hardcore training route, if not and you just want to lose weight/increase in fitness then as you are sir
What nathb says 🙂 Just think about the hard/easy thing a bit and get in a mix of intensities. As much "fun" as racing is, maybe swap one with a fairly spirited longer ride, nice and steady on the flats, making a few bridging moves to groups up ahead, pushing on a bit on a KOM. Or maybe a day when you just do short properly hard efforts with lots of easy spinning in between. Just mix it up a bit.
Is interesting to see how Zwift is changing the way people train now there's pretty much a virtual race you can do every day if you fancy, instead of the traditional one or two a week and only during a racing season.
On the topic of longer rides on turbo/zwift. Following the recommendation of an earlier poster I've been testing one of those weird looking ISM saddles. It needed a layback post to get right position but it's made a big difference to amount of discomfort/numbness on rides over an hour. Did 2+ hours yesterday over two stints with a short break and felt fine after.
I think I'm going to do the Team Italy race at 17:40 tonight, although there is a good chance I'll do one lap quick (for me) then cruise round the remaining 2 at 2W/kg. Hopefully I'll find a group this time though - my one and only previous race I was pretty much on my own for the whole thing.
I think I'm going to do the Team Italy race at 17:40 tonight, although there is a good chance I'll do one lap quick (for me) then cruise round the remaining 2 at 2W/kg. Hopefully I'll find a group this time though - my one and only previous race I was pretty much on my own for the whole thing.
Looks like I managed 2nd in the D's in the provisional results anyway. The guy that beat me was miles up the road (4 minutes) as he averaged 3W/kg. His time would have been good enough for 10th in the C's, so no idea what he was doing in D - doesn't look like that race is set-up to DQ for exceeding the category limits though.
Did the BRS 10mile TT. I've ridden the 10 a few times on the other turbo. Toddays time was 1 min quicker overall. But i lost in a gasping finish over the line to a guy, it was like watching the horrible breaks in tours, where you know he's getting done on the line, i could see him closing, closing, closing... he did me with <15m to go !
Set my FTP to 295... boy i worked for it !
Just about to give racing a bash, cat D in the kiss in around 5 minutes. I'll let you know when I collapse
Anyone racing Si Richardson from GCN live on You Tube?
Can't see any STW tags!
Wooo, Very happy!
Commuted today which is 13 miles and tried my best to stay in Z1 (failed but hey ho).
I did a 10 min warm up on Zwift then reset the stages and calibrated the Vortex. I have now just completed the 45 min FTP test using the stages synced to Zwift and the Vortex to my mio. The Vortex is erm rather out, but the good news is using the stages my shiny new FTP =
[b]305w!!! = 4.36w/kg.[/b]
I'm back in cat A with the moral of the story being reset the stages before usage!! I'll post up the difference between my Vortex and Stages later, right now I need to be sick a little and eat.
I always calibrate my power meter before every ride (indoor or outdoor) - apparently they can be quite sensitive to conditions and calibration only takes a few seconds.
On the subject of calibration - there's no way of calibrating my Elite Rampa without a power meter (not within budget this year). Does this mean my FTP/power output and corresponding zwift performance might as well be measured in pixie farts?
Does this mean my FTP/power output and corresponding zwift performance might as well be measured in pixie farts?
Indeed it does. As long as those are consistend pixie farts then it's not really a problem though, as 99% of folks on Zwift probably have either inaccurate power readings or dodgy weights!
My turbo and power meter are reasonably close, however I've decided to use the power meter as the power source so it'll be consistent with outdoor rides.
suspect the Rampa is overestimating my power output, but as long as its reasonably consistent then don't suppose it really matters. It's only a game, right?
I'm not built for racing, gave in after 2 laps. pretty sure it was only unicycles and penny farthings behind me.
I know the feeling Nuts. Still 97kg so even putting out almost 300w for my race its only going to be 3.1w/kg Lol. I wish I was in the 70s like some. I'd be a beast.
Although the way I eat, its unlikely to get much better lol
I think on a course like last night (volcano flat) you'd be right up there at 300W. If you look at the top 5 I was the lightest
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My vortex is just doing it's own thing!
For the race today I took some of the advice from this thread and dialed in 500W+ for the start, which briefly put me in the lead although only for a few yards. I was slightly slow getting a photo so had already been passed by the time I got this one (that's me on the left):
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I then kept the pace up for the first third of the race or so which meant I was able to keep with the Cat-C riders and get a tow from them. I then backed off a bit for the next 3rd of the race (not that I had a choice if I wanted to make it to the end!) and then a bit more for the final third - still ending up close to my FTP for the race. Based on my calcs I'd have been a 2.45W/kg average for the race (although Zwiftpower can't seem to decide if I exceeded the category limits or not as that's changed a few times now!). I only saw one other Cat-D rider for the whole race (the guy that won Cat-D with a 3W/kg average that'd have seen him 10th in Cat-C) as I think the initial stint with the Cat-C riders meant that the other Cat-D riders (including the guy that eventually beat me) they were a good bit back after the first 20 minutes.
I think on a course like last night (volcano flat) you'd be right up there at 300W. If you look at the top 5 I was the lightest
On the flatter courses total power matters more than W/kg.
I saw you on the first lap nuts 🙂 might just be a pacing thing, that group we were in ended up with about 2.4w/kg. If you'd gone for the group behind you might have been able to maintain it. I got about 3 miles from the end and totally died. They all zoomed off.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining at all, the difference as a rider from starting out in Oct is crazy. The turbo I was using then had just been checked and was accurate, I couldn't hold 2w/kg. So to now be holding 3 is brilliant. I was in a bunch of 6 for most of the race, some pulled out on me, I gapped a couple. All in all, I'm very happy.
Rest day tomorrow. He says, like today wasn't supposed to be one, and yesterday lol. Its bloody addictive!
I raced the GCN race in Cat A 🙂
I wanted to prove a bit of a point about drafting. It is AS ESSENTIAL a skill as in real road racing (says mr 4 Crits 😀 )
Anyway, 3.1w/kg (275w / 291 weighted) was enough to get me within 3 minutes of Si Richardson and about midfield (roughly 43/85) in A.
Power is great. Laziness is greater 🙂
@Nath- great job mate! You'll be buzzing on Saturday now 🙂
@CH - I think without the commute I could have squeezed a few more w but yeah I'm chuffed that it's not such a huge drop - 30w instead on 50w originally thought.
Race sounds fun, glad Zwift didn't crash! Did they solve their server issue by not advertising GCN as much as last time? 😆
have been working so far on an estimated FTP around 200, which tied in relatively well to the outputs on various rides I did just after getting my Tacx
Today i did the 45 minute FTP test. Jeez, that's a pleasant way to spend an evening.
Now at 214W; combined with my chub club reductions (down from 95 to 91kg) I reckon that's FTP from 2.1 up to about 2.35W/kg. Which is still distinctly pathetic compared to most on here, but it's going up at least!!
@Nath- yes basically I think 😀
Ah. After I trim off the cool down, it was 295w average. Still only 3.3 w/kg though..
Watts are king in the draft on the flat. I was often sat at 2.6 whilst the whippets around me were doing 3.9-4.1! The attacks are brutal in A though. Every small rise was a full on sprint for me not to get dropped!
I would say that is the closest match yet to a Hillingdon race....
my opinion, to be a better 'all round' rider you need to do all sorts of stuff. When i trained to solo the Gorrick 12 I did lots of long rides at a calculated HR below my 'threshold' so as long as I kept fuelling, i could ride almost for ever. But I couldn't keep up on an average saturday ride when the hammer went down on a hill or a bit of ST because I wasn't doing any 'power' work. I got good at the one thing I was practising.
By mixing up longer rides at 'easy' effort, with power based work then you'll increase the power you can put out at a certain effort level so you'll be faster naturally, but also get used to doing the longer efforts where metering effort and fuelling is more important.
And get a singlespeed. Just because 😉
And get a singlespeed. Just because
I love the looks and simplicity of SS's mate... but just don't think i'm strong/good enough for an SS bike.
but just don't think i'm strong/good enough for an SS bike
clearly bollix...... I can ride one!
Trip to Swinley? Have a lap on mine. Wouldn't be my weapon of choice for a long day out in the hills but for 90 mins around somewhere like Swinley it's great.
And it will make you faster even without the pedalling; did you read http://singletrackworld.com/columns/2017/02/drag-acts-and-singlespeeds/ - I think I said to you it forces you to carry speed better and also attack little rises rather than gear down and stall.
@CH - yes on Zwift I have to work a lot harder on the flats and downhill sections lol. It's funny as on most the races on watopia everyone is pretty much together right until exiting the fish tank. Sounds like you had an epic ride though! Now you've raced in A you can't go back to B!!
Might start doing some more races from Monday, been a bit of a poor show from me recently as I've been concentrating on training instead.
@Nath- yes I can, I checked first 😉 😀
You only can't go back once you've had an ftp/kg over cat. boundaries 🙂
Apart from the lack of coasting through corners, it's a pretty close match to IRL I'd say.
Ha - another puncture last night. This is getting silly. 😳
I've had more punctures on the turbo trainer in the last month & a bit, than I have in total since getting a road bike a few years ago. Quite ridiculous!!
Got into the garage & the tyre was pretty flat, but still a decent amount of air in it, so I figured if I pump it back up it might last a short session.
Planned on doing 5 min warm up & then just bashing out a hard 40 mins because I was late home from work. Got to about 37mins hard effort before the tyre started slipping.
I imagine my power readings on Zwift were progressively going out of 'true' but wasn't so bothered about that.
Need to get to the bottom of this puncture thing, but just don't have the time without sacrificing something else....got no new tubes in the house & don't even think I have any patches that I trust to use...
Might have to ram raid Halfords on the way home....
I've also had two punctures in the past 3 or 4 weeks. None on the road for over a year. I use a Vittoria red turbo specific tyre. Reading around, it seems it might be a combination of too high a pressure (over 100 psi), a rougher internal face of the tyre compared to a decent quality road tyre and friction. I calibrated the pressure on the wheel using the Tacx app (when it actually works). Will check the pressure, the tyre for rough edges (again) and shove some talc in there as well.
Any other ideas?
Anyone racing Si Richardson from GCN live on You Tube?
I watched half an hour on their YouTube stream last night. He got popped by the lead group about half way around having raced around or above his FTP (of 340 I think). He was surprised how competitive it was. Having said that he rode off the front a few times and didn't draft very well. He needs to watch CH I think.
Matt Stephens' commentary was ace although not sure if just unhinged or quite pissed.
Getting quite frustrated with Zwiftpower, I really wish they'd make their own race tracking. I'm sure they're raking in enough money now to fund a proper dev team.
[quote=Toasty ]Getting quite frustrated with Zwiftpower, I really wish they'd make their own race tracking. I'm sure they're raking in enough money now to fund a proper dev team.
do you think zwiftpower make money?
http://www.titaniumgeek.com/cycling/zwiftpower-the-coding-behind-zwift-community-racing/
ptun74 - MemberI've also had two punctures in the past 3 or 4 weeks. None on the road for over a year. I use a Vittoria red turbo specific tyre. Reading around, it seems it might be a combination of too high a pressure (over 100 psi), a rougher internal face of the tyre compared to a decent quality road tyre and friction. I calibrated the pressure on the wheel using the Tacx app (when it actually works). Will check the pressure, the tyre for rough edges (again) and shove some talc in there as well.
Ah. See, I'm currently waiting to get the bits together to build up a second bike just for the road & was then planning on getting a proper trainer tyre for the current bike. I thought this might solve some of the problems....there is a lot of grit embedded in my current tyre (I've tried to pick a lot of it out) which could be contributing.
But - it sounds like this might not solve the problem itself.
I did wonder if the pressure was too high, but I think Zwift relies on 100psi on 23C tyres for the calibration of the different trainers to be most accurate.
Talc is a good shout; I'll try adding some to the tyre & might drop the pressure to 90psi and see if it helps.
I did buy a new tyre from my LBS to replace the well used one that is currently on the bike, but I couldn't get it ont to the rim. It's a Michelin Endurance something or other (LBS was selling it for £10, should have been £50). After the tyre levers pinged across the garage for about the 5th time, I gave up 😆
I did one of those short "WBR 1 Flat Lap" races this morning. Legs weren't great as still a bit stiff from last nights race so even for only a 15 minute duration I wasn't able to put out much power - only 253W when I was expecting maybe more like 280W. Ended up 12th out of 20 or so riders. Quite a few Japanese riders in the group who have high W/kg (some 5W/kg or more) but not all that much power which, given it's a flat course, meant I wasn't that far away from some of them despite the huge W/kg difference.
Got my first ever spin class at the gym this evening so need to leave something in the legs for that!
do you think zwiftpower make money?http://www.titaniumgeek.com/cycling/zwiftpower-the-coding-behind-zwift-community-racing/
No, I think Zwift make money and have the functionality to organise races, yet have no ability to tell you who won. It seems bizarre.
Adding their own results just feels like something that would be fairly trivial, given they've recorded the start, end and full race data.
They've got somewhere between about 25k-100k paying users, all paying a pretty hefty monthly premium, direct to Zwift without any publisher. I just don't see why they can't contract a coder for a couple of months to pop out a results page. Why not even just buy Zwiftpower out and integrate it?
Jam bo- I think he meant Zwift are making enough money to develop their own results system.
In my opinion- if you think ZP, KISS, Nathan Guerra, Shane Millar etc etc are doing all of this for the pure love of it still then kudos to you for keeping the faith 😀
From Zwifts point of view:
Customers pay money for your service of supplying a virtual world for them to cycle in and organise [b]events[/b].
You introduce racing, and someone cheats or is using Zpower so you disqualify them.
Now you've got an angry paying customer bombarding you with emails because of said disqualification, and they have been paying for Zwift since it was released and have never been treated like this by a company before, blah blah.
It's a headache they are avoiding for the time being and I don't blame them!