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I know i'm the only one who does my other rides etc, but that's been my format so i'm sticking with it.

Went out yesterday and had a bit of a Ridgeway ride.

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Overlooking Wantage way. Ended up at White Horse Hill in Uffington... Jeez i've only done it once before and it didn't get nicer on this attempt... Eeeeek. Hard that. But cracked on and ended up on the Lambourn road, which was fine with me as it meant i could head towards home, i was 55km in at this stage and i'd been taking it pretty easy.

I was planning on stopping in Great Shefford for water and food, but as i reached the junction, 2 roadies were there heading in the direction i was planning. Oooops. That's game on and chase on isn't it ? Caught them within 1/2 a mile and on a little kick i took the lead. I assumed they'd fall off the back but about a mile later, they were on my wheel... I went a bit harder, harder... I was now cracking on (Strava tells me later it's my 2nd best ever times, despite being on the 29er and having ridden it plenty on the road bike), but still they were there... 9 miles later we went our separate ways... They'd sat on my wheel for all of it. LOL.

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In a weird twist of fate, we were chatting near the end of it at Woodspeen and it transpires one of them lives in the same village as me.. which considering it's not a big village and i've never met or seen him before is quite weird. I thought i knew all the active cyclists in the village.

The section after that was horrific really, i'd gone into the red with them and cooked my legs, but i was still 20km or so from home. It seemed into the wind mostly too. But it was sunny, warm and nice. So i plodded home at a very easy rate of speed and got home eventually. 90km in with 1000m of climbing, far from 'epic' but a decent day all round really 🙂


 
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Weeksy - was a great day for a ride yesterday,bit mean yours was interupted by wheel suckers but sometimes its nice to have that bit of competition mid ride.

Well it has finally happened, i did the wbr 3 lap flat route and stuck with the A group all the way and was in the bunch sprint at the end. The race started very fast and it took me nearly all the first lap just to get the lactic out of my thighs from the start but i eventually settled down. Stuck with them and attacked every hill which was keeping me close to the front so managed to get several 2 second micro rests. I knew i would have to go hard on the last hill after sprint bridge so went full on and crested in 3rd so then just went hard to the line with a cheeky sprint at the end. I finished 8th overall in the race but won GOLD in B by nearly 3 minutes! I think i am going to dip my toe and join the cat A riders for a while and see what happens.

Also in that race was E Bradbury of JLT condor who put on a mind boggling turn of speed. He was taking phone calls mid race so dropped back from the group by about 20s. We had just gone over the hill in the tunnel so pretty much only half a lap left to go when he let rip. In  only half a lap he gained the 20s and won the race by 45s!!! He just went past us in a blur and continued smashing out massive numbers, it was incredible to witness. No idea who he is but i am sure somebody here will have heard of him


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 11:48 am
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It is just astounding in all walks of life the difference between the Pros and normal humans. Used to see it a lot on track on motorbikes... they'd disappear like you'd stalled.

Funny though isn't it... people see 'us' and think we're super fit and really quick.... but in reality we're just fodder and the fast guys wouldn't even warm up at our pace.

p.s. Give A's a go... you've done amazingly since we battled in Cs.


 
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I enjoy your write ups mate, it's your thread anyway 😉

Did the CVR race again last night, for the last 2 weeks that's the only Zwifting I do, what with it being nice out and all.

I'd been getting a load of flak from the Draft lot for my turbo being rather generous in a sprint so i'd decided, with it being Wattopia hilly this week that i'd try something a little different. First lap and I didn't get much of a chance to do anything! The guy i'm racing went straight u pthe first climb like he had a rocket up his arse. As a group we reeled him back in on the descent with his team mate just sitting in.

At the back end of the first lap i got away and put about 15 seconds into the group, they caught me again at the top of the climb 🙁 My heart rate was sitting at 187 at the top, my average for the race was 180, it hurt reeeeal bad.

3rd lap and the climb was still being lit up, Draft were trying to break me 😛 I was 4 seconds down at the top of the climb, some random pulled me back on (thanks!) and the other team Draft rider sat into our group with the leader 3 seconds off.

It had all just got back together by the sprint so i had a dig and settled in for some more pain, i still had 8 seconds on the climb, i knew i needed a fair bit at the top and still had 8 seconds, 1:49 on the last lap, not bad 😀

So it's simple right, just keep doing more w/kg than who ever is on the front of the group 8k to go and 22 seconds,that's not enough, is it?

Well, at the line i still had 2 seconds in the bank 😀

4.8w/kg for the race 180avg/190max and a new ftp. All in all a completely different race to anything that I've ever done, I can certainly say I've never spent so long at those heart rates.

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It is just astounding in all walks of life the difference between the Pros and normal humans. Used to see it a lot on track on motorbikes… they’d disappear like you’d stalled.

You ever ridden a mountain bike with a motorbike racer? A few of the guys in the superstock 1000 series ride MTB and and the bike skills are insane. They'll drag a mate out who's not ridden a push bike in 10 years out occasionally and they're buzzing your tyres on a technical descent.  Absolute nut jobs the lot of em!


 
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You ever ridden a mountain bike with a motorbike racer?

I was a motorbike racer 😉 So were most of my mates...

But no, not proper ones 🙂


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 12:02 pm
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180 average and 370w .... **** !


 
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Scaled - great write up but not as great as those stats. That is very impressive and many leagues above me, your ftp is just about my best 5 min power on a good day with a tailwind.  Its safe to say that when i join cat A i will be bottom of the pile but the only way is up.


 
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[url= https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/edmund-bradbury ]Edmund Bradbury[/url]. He's a bit quick.


 
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Thanks njee20, i knew i recognised the name. No shame in being beaten by 45s then (we wont mention he was taking phone calls mid race and warming up, he was probably tucking in to a full english as well). He only beat me coz he is 20 years younger than me 😉


 
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@weeksy - They look like they were racing? 😆

When I was heading to hillingdon in full kit on my racing bike I was drafting boris bikers, grannies, buses and got a large tow from a e-biker for a few miles.

@scaled -  Those numbers are fantastic, chapeau. Out of curiosity what setup are you using for power, trainer or pm?


 
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Apologies for the massive write up for such a small race!

First race for a while and first race on the low carb high fat diet, the EVR race (Cat D), eight laps of the volcano.The start pen seemed unusually quiet, though I fairness there were only four D’s. Do they pen people in different pens, as I launched off the line I was at well towards the front, but within a few metres a swarm of faster riders flew in from the right hand side?

One of the D’s (a Portuguese chap) shot off like a scalded cat, clinging to the coat tails of the B/C group, no doubt, whilst I found myself in TT mode. I could see the other two D’s just behind but took the decision not to wait for them and tried to get into a rhythm putting out around 2.1 – 2.2 W/kg. Once we hit the volcano I notice one of the Ds is catching me quite quickly, pushing 2.7 w/kg. When I check on zwiftpower later he’s only around 10kg lighter than me so latching on was always always going to be tricky and that proved to be the case. That definitely left me in TT mode so it was head down and push on. Getting out of the saddle for the small climbs showed I have absolutely no peak power today (probably diet related) so I just try and keep it steady. Over the next 2/3 laps the D who had lead from the start drifted back to me and then sat firmly on my wheel, I had a feather and so used it on the climb to the finish line. The Portuguese rider stayed with me up the climb, but drifted off when I kept the power high up the drag to the line, ha 2<sup>nd</sup> position!

About 2/3 distance and a large pack of A’s and a couple of B’s came flying past. As the second group (B/C) starts to catch up I notice they are dragging the Portuguese bloke with them, bang, a couple of minutes later and he’s 10 seconds in front, WTF!

OK, head down and same again, steady power and no silly sprinting (each one was taking longer and longer to recover from). Towards the end of lap 7 and I get back, this time I don’t give him the chance to sit on my wheel and there’s soon a comfortable 10-15 seconds between us. That gap is maintained for the final lap, though he looks to make some gains up the finish hill (oh no you don’t!) and I flop over the line second in D.

On the whole I’m really pleased with that, didn’t explode, got an FTP increase from 219 to 227, all my laps were between 7:13 and 7:30, and neither of the last two were the slowest. The slightly more distressing part was the 3 minutes between myself and the C group/first D and the shambolic lack of any top end. I’m hoping that comes back over the next few weeks. Checking zwiftpower later, the first guy in D put out exactly 2.4 W/kg and an average power of 234W.

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Just done stage 5 of amgen tour and out of 229 i managed to finish 13th. I could have finished higher but on the big climb either my network or zwift had issues and everyone disappeared for about 3 mins. I was towards the front but by the time they all came back i was in 30th but at least i was back in the race. I quite like these stages as the fields are huge so you can ride and have a bit of banter with others.


 
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me too, but 5 min slower and 75th place. Which isnt bad for a lump of lard


 
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p.s Matt, hell of a report!


 
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Second day at race school for me. Lesson 1 don't do all the work pulling a group back together when you don't know the course. Did the EVR Europe race on Watopia figure 8 track ( https://www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=60931). Seemed to be sticking in a nice big bunch, or so I thought till the first climb when a group split off the front. I spent the next 15k trying to get the other two riders I'd ended up with too help reel in those who fell of the leading group. We had picked up 2 or 3 riders before hitting the 6% climb. Suddenly a couple of my companions lit the power up and disappeared. I could generate enough power but not yet keep it up. They very rapidly disappeared 30s down the road. I ended up riding with one other guy to the end. Afraid at this point I went lazy and mostly drafted him before blasting past in the last two hundred meters. FTP was up again though I had to wait five minutes before attempting to walk downstairs. Despite a new phone the companion app dropped out several times so a ant + HRM is on the shopping list (anyone used the decathlon geonaught one?).


 
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I was so CLOSE. Just done last stage of Amgen tour and i was with the lead bunch but hanging on for the last mile. I was in for the bunch sprint so shut my eyes and with only a bit left in my legs hit the pedals. I looked up with 100 meters to go and i was in 1st but my legs gave out and i got pipped at the line by 3 others, i finished fourth out of 160 with avg of 300w for the race, so bloody close.


 
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Actually i finished 5th,only 0.83s behind winner


 
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Not a race report. Speaking to a person today that works for a UK cycle clothing distributor. He said that sales of winter cycle clothing have been lower than previous years ... and it’s been attributed to Zwift; less people bothering to go out during the wet/cold winter months and choosing to Zwift instead.

Another friend said that he is not organising track sessions this Autumn/winter; instead looking to arrange regular Zwift events ... Zwift still quite new, so is this the way things are going?

is wet winter riding a thing of the past??


 
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is wet winter riding a thing of the past??

It is in my world yes.


 
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If I gave up wet winter rides I'd only ride outdoors for 3 months a year.


 
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I keep running into other Cat D's who can hit the 2.4W/kg limit bang on the nose!

Two laps of London hilly reverse tonight, some Italian chap puts 40 seconds into me on the first time up Fox Hill, but I manage to drag it all back by horseguards and stretch out to 35 seconds by the bottom of the climb second time round. That's got to have given me a chance!

Nothing doing, this bloke from Bury was not flying up the hills. Although I only lost 9 seconds on the first time up, my opposition took 11 seconds off his first lap time and beat me by 80 seconds. Try as I could on the way back down I could only close to 45 seconds. Ah well, another increase in ftp, for consolation.

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I was planning to do that race till a damn windows update took 30 minutes to apply!


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 11:38 pm
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You're getting better all the time though mate, it's only a matter of time 🙂  PAtience and hard work will see you right 🙂

I've been outdoors in this weather so Zwift hasn't had a look in


 
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Ouch, that hurt....  Although as always, only right at the end.

https://www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=61192

6 laps of Classique. That's LONG for me these days, i generally only do short races now. But this one fitted my timeframe so i jumped on it.

Pace was decent, without being insane. If i commentated on our race it would be quite boring.. We had a group of about 25, then 23, 21, 20, each time with 1-2 riders getting dumped at the top of Horseguards Hill. I was right there until about 1.5km to go. I stayed in there up Horseguards, but was just about losing the front of the group, but a couple of guys came back past me who'd lost the wheel on the hill and dragged me back to the group.

Sadly though as we took the last hairpin and down to the funny gazebo thing, i lost the wheels and that was the end of things mostly. They pulled away by 1, 2, 3.... 4, 5....GRRRRRR

I then bimbled the last 800-900m on my own.


 
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Two laps of London flat for me last night;  https://www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=61284 . Did not go well! Got dropped by the lead group around the start of lap 1. Tried to go alone for the next 6-7k before realising I wasn't going to make the ned doing that. Slowed up a bit to allow the group of two that were 25s back to catch up and then tried to stay with them. That was going fine till around 3/4 of the way through when one tried to get away. The resulting power spikes I put in to keep up shifted the turbo forward far enough that I pulled the power plug out of the wall! Arrghh, Lost the best part of 2 minutes fixing it and getting going again byt which time the the next group was only 20s behind. I was knackered by now, gave up trying to keep them behind after about 1k and instead opt to stay on their wheels. One sprinted early though I was confident I could out power them so let them go as as too knackered for that effort. Put in a big spike with about 300m to go and dropped the rest of the group. Just didn't catch the early sprinter though and finished ever so slightly behind them.

On the plus side the decathlon Ant+ HRM has sorted the HRM dropouts (which was especially good as the companion app would not connect at all last night). FTP up again.

Have noticed that my power graphs jump all over the place compared to others that are much flatter. Poor technique??


 
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Two laps of London Flat for the fatties tonight for me as I've not been out on the bike for a couple of days, I was sceptical what I'd be like as although I've been riding I've very little Vo2 Max stuff and it's all been base miles and I've put a couple of kilos of pure chub on.

With this in mind I ramped down and entered as a Cat 'C' anyway got onto the lead group and was happy hanging with the 'B's and one 'A' who soon was off the front and just pulling out time (turns out he's some Danish Elite rider that rides for a team)

So I just hung with the lead pack for 2 laps, put a little dig in to break it up and soon it we'd snapped the elastic on some of the pack and it was 5 of us out in front.

Bit of cat and mouse and then a sprint down The Mall, I thought I'd got 3rd overall but looks like it got nicked by less than a gnats nadger pube. Oh well 4th overall but I'll be DQ'd for being a big fat sandbagger 🙂


 
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Zwiftpower doesn't seem to be updating


 
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No more CVR rankings, just as I was heading back to Elite. Website says it will be back once the GDPR stuff is sorted.


 
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Whats that all about bigfoot?

Is the cvr rankings the one you now see at the top of the zwiftpower page when you have logged in? My ranking says i am 58th in B.

i won a gold today but it was a pretty small field. It was a bunch sprint so i was quite surprised i won that given my max was only 800w.

my wahoo cadence sensor doesnt seem to be registering correctly on zwift, keeps saying i am doing over 150rpm. Logged a called with zwift as it seems to work perfectly fine when out with my elemnt. Anyone else having trouble?


 
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http://www.cycligentrankings.com/

The rankings on zwiftpower came after the cvr ones, although I never really understood the cvr points after I got -1 for finishing second in the A's.


 
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"my wahoo cadence sensor doesnt seem to be registering correctly on zwift, keeps saying i am doing over 150rpm. Logged a called with zwift as it seems to work perfectly fine when out with my elemnt. Anyone else having trouble?"

Might be a coincidence but I did a couple of laps around greater London yesterday including the Mall sprint section twice. First time I cruised through at roughly 170w in about 15 sec. Second time I cranked it up and was hitting about 420w by the end and was slower!

My overall distance and time seemed about right though. My cadence was what I would have expected although I have had the odd crazy reading in the past.


 
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Ate too many Tunnocks Wafers and felt guilty so jumped on the Watopia lap 5 mins late.

Bit of bantz as I tried to haul my virtual fat avatar up to the radio mast.

After an hour of sweating like a ....... in a ........... I Think I made a dent into #wafergate

oh and wasn’t sandbagging this one as I was late could only join as a C or D no idea why? But as there was a massive climb C worked


 
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Tiger, was that the KISS race? ( https://www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=61666). I also did that one but in B. First time up to the mast for me. Damn that was hard! First mid field finish though (had some frustration with mother decline to work out). Seems I'm ok at climbing as I overtook a fair number of riders on the way up. New peak power in the sprit and FTP up again.


 
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Yep KISS race I assume I was / you were the other STW in there 👍😀


 
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I was yes 👍


 
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Great average w/kg! I reckon if we got organised a Team STW race working together as a team could be fun! Would have to be flat though 🙂


 
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Have noticed that my power graphs jump all over the place compared to others that are much flatter. Poor technique??

Or intermittent tyre slippage. Or comparing your power graphs to folks using, say, Wahoo Kickrs with power smoothing enabled - use a Kickr on ERG mode with Sufferfest for example, and you get weird, near perfect power output that's clearly totally unrealistic.


 
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ZwiftPower is down till 1st June.

Will our results still stand??


 
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Well we can all claim gold's while its down :D.


 
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It seems the world has fallen out of Zwift racing at the moment. How much of that is down to the GDPR issues for Zwiftpower and Zwiftrankings and both platforms being down i don't know or how much is down to it being summer.

I've done 5 races in the last week and i think the biggest field i got was 50. I'm looking for todays races and can't find any with more than 9 riders ! usually you've got a few 20+ by this stage of the day.

Results last week were decent enough for me, but i'm still not hitting the power and performances i could do on the Isaac and at my peak.... but i'm doing my best. Usual problem of not having what it takes in the last seconds. Yesterdays was Volcano flat and i went at 1.9km to go coming down the snakey bit.... Only reason was because i had an aero so thought i'd put it to use.... Got a 4s lead but the all pulled me back on the kick and i still finished in the exact same position i would have if i'd not gone 😀 Had to try though.


 
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I see we're getting 'part' of the Innsbruck World Champs course soon too. Could be interesting. Hopefully better than Richmond.


 
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Right, i'm back, and frankly it's a bit of a rude awakening, I was dead last in the CVR postseason race last night.

I was all good, well, mostly, right up until the first climb where it all went horribly wrong, i couldn't get up the bloody hill. What happened? I'd gone out of got myself a Direto over the weekend, not had a chance to try it out before the race other that to actually build the thing and do 2.8km to try and sort out the rocking from my apparently not-so-flat garage floor. My god, it was like trying to ride up a wall, 2% gradients were killing me. All i can think of is that my winters worth of turbo training has left me with a fairly decent power but in such a small envelope of cadence that i'm buggered outside of that band.

The other factor is obviously that the old turbo was over reading something chronic 😀 I'm pretty much going to be starting again, I can't even trust that the old one was consistent with itself, i'm 99% sure that the warmer it got the more power it reported. I'll do an FTP test once i'm feeling less shagged (2.5 week old baby, so not much sleep!)


 
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Oh.... that's most interesting, you were our A god ! What are we going to do in the big events now without you.

We'll need to get Crosshair and NathB racing again.

I'm debating whether i jump on the 12:15 in a short while. 6 laps of Volcano CCW. It's a course i like, but the kick to the line doesn't exactly suit me. 🙂

I noticed on yesterdays race that the B's got a massive jump as their starting gate was WAY ahead of the Cs, so it's tempting to enter B.... .but the Bs are fast fellas as we know. LOL. Whilst i may be able to hang with the odd B.... it's not many of them


 
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I've been doing a few races.

Got my first B medal (according to zwift end of race score board). Four laps of Watopia Hilly. The hill seems to be pretty effective at breaking the bunch up. The A's and a couple of B's disappeared up that on lap one and I again ended up in a no-mans land between the front the the bulk with another rider. By the time we got to the top the lead group had split again and on the downhill we caught an A and a B. This group split and recombined a few times over the next two laps (caused by me on the big as I foudn it relatively easy to pull away at that point). Going into lap four I went for it up the hill however one other B had a bit more in the legs and was 10 seconds ahead by the top. I tried to real them in but nearly blew up doing it. Those behind were 30 seconds back now so I settled in to try and not let the gap ahead grow too much. It stayed this way to the end. Another nice FTP increase, up to 305 now!

I seem to be OK doing 55-70rpm in a high gear but struggle with a higher cadence (HR shoots up). Need to work on that I think as currently have to get out of the saddle to climb at a decent rate. Also running out of gears for that cadence (bike fitted with compact double).

@scaled My directo rocks a bit too on carpet. I actually managed to move it far enough in one race that I pulled the plug out of the wall!


 
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All i can think of is that my winters worth of turbo training has left me with a fairly decent power but in such a small envelope of cadence that i’m buggered outside of that band.

Was your old trainer controllable? ie: did it ramp up the resistance when you hit a hill or was resistance simply constant with your avatar just slowing down with progress. The hill feeling like a hill makes a whole lot of difference.


 
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I was due a rest today, but saw a decent 6 lapper of volcano.

Went off hard and was with the A/B's in a group of 27... did about 9km with them before being dumped, my target/plan was to hang with them as long as possible and see where it led.  The problem as always came on the kickers, they all throw down 6w/kg due to weight and whilst i can get 4.5 i can't get 6 when i'm pushing hard.

As it was still nevr going to make it onto Zwiftpower or Zwiftrankings i was happy to go all in for a short effort and then bail. The next guy behind was 40s and then a bunch at 55s which made me think "nah, can't be bothered" so jumped off..

I did set a PR of 5:22 for the volcano lap, which was 30s ahead of my best ever, along with 295w average. I couldn't have maintained that for the distance though i openly admit.

Nixie, 55-70rpm ?? Wow, that's REALLY low in my world. I average 90-97 generally in a race...  I wonder what everyone else is doing


 
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I have been doing some racing of late, in fact i had an overall victory last week. Sadly there were only 10 in the race and only one A rider but i beat them all by over 20 seconds.

i did a race yesterday and was in the bunch sprint with the A group but was towards the back. Pace was really high and i ended up with a race avg 284w.

Today though i did stage 5 castelli ride  with very tired legs and to compound that my network died about 2 mins in to the race so abandoned. Did the next one an hour later but by that time i had been warming up for over an hour so wasnt expecting much. 92 people took part and incredibly i finished 10th and increased my ftp to 312w. It was a surprising result considering all the faffing about at the start and makes me wonder what my ftp might be with fresh legs.


 
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There was no way i could consider sticking with you when i joined !


 
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Nixie, 55-70rpm ?? Wow, that’s REALLY low in my world. I average 90-97 generally in a race…  I wonder what everyone else is doing

I've never been a proper roadie so was wondering if this came from MTB pedalling style. If I tried 90-97 I think my heart rate just would jump up and on past faster attempts it feels like my legs are in an uncontrolled spin (I start getting a stuttering effect as I'm not smooth). Do need to speed it up though as I can feel I'm pushing the muscles quite hard.


 
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My cadence tends to average about 85 which i find comfortable for the pace i ride at in a race but outdoor riding it does seem to be much higher than that.


 
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Until getting my Direto and then later this year getting a crank power meter for outdoor use, my natural cadence was ~95rpm.

But both power meters told me I produced more power in the 70-80rpm ballpark, so that's now my PB-chasing cadence zone climbing Hampshire's cat3 and cat4 hills this year, I've got very few left to have a good go at where I've not improved from last year's best attempts.


 
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We’ll need to get Crosshair and NathB racing again.

For the first time since Nov 2015, I’ve stopped my Zwift subscription. Fairly sure I’ll restart in the winter but I can't bring myself to ride indoors at the moment. Even my TR intervals get done outdoors.

My SNAP had to go back again too (after 18 months or so and a lot of use) as the roller bearing has gone.

I’m hoping I get a Kickr Climb compatible replacement 🤞🏻🤞🏻


 
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I need to get used to this new turbo so thought what the hell and entered the WBR 3 sisters. Entered as a B as i'm having a crisis of wattage and reset my FTP on everything till i get some better numbers.

900M of climbing and a trip up the radio tower should see what the old legs are capable of, usual array of excuses, skin full of beer last night, bugger all sleep thanks to the new baby and toddler and i've been a generally grumpy bastard cos i can't get out to ride in the sunshine.

It wasn't the biggest of fields, 8 A's i think on the start line and i spent a fair bit of time on the front and tried a few different ways of getting up the ramps and hills. It's much more realistic, if i go to stomp up a ramp and misjudge it and dont make it over the crest i pay for it massively, probably more so in the game for some reason, getting back to speed takes more of an effort and there is a probably 1 second lag between the on screen gradient changes and the turbo kicking it in, why it can't sync that up I don't know. I'm wondering if i need to get a USB extension lead for this one, there's a fair bit of electrical stuff going on in my garage now!

Came in 3rd in the race with a new FTP of 294 and managed 3.7q/kg for 84:33 round the 3 sisters.  I should probably do a proper FTP test at some point and pick one of these new fangled training plans.


 
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seems the world is not all WOE then 🙂

294 is a cracking number.


 
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I was going to do the three sisters last night but wimped out and did the KISS two laps of Volcano climb instead. Same distance but less height 😁. I mostly cruised around trying to keep my HR I'm the 140s or less and legs spinning at 80 or over. Went ok though got outsprinted by a sandbagging 'C'.

Saturday night was better. Did a short race on volcano KOM. Not a massive field, just three As, two of which disappeared. The other A and us Bs were in a group till around 3.5km to go. I somehow got a small gap at this pipoi and decided to go all in. Went flat out to the top and ended up with quite a big gap. I think that was my first class win, or was according to the in game score board. FTP up to 308 now.

Scaled, I've noticed that slight lag on gradient changes, enough to be noticeable but not enough to be annoying.


 
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Well done on the win Nixie 🙂


 
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Thank you 😁. Shame still no zwiftpower to record it.


 
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Yeah, I'm missing zwiftpower as well, since I usually have to lie down on the floor for five minutes at the end of a race and miss the Zwift breakdown of the results.

Did the Kiss First Base D race on Monday. I thought it would be a dozen riders battling it out as it was just two laps of London flat. Not a chance, flag goes and off they sprint like scalded cats, head down I try and hang on but there's no way I'm holding 300W for more than 30 seconds! And...........that was how it stayed, the leader finished 8 minutes ahead, on his own, not really sure what the point of the race was for him. I was about 7/8 over the line, after a great ride/battle with a guy called 'Keto Carnivore'. I saved a feather for the small ramp after the underpass and then turned myself inside out to the line. Best bit was an ftp increase to 237 from 232, if I lose any more weight on the chub club I'll be in danger of having to race C!

Thanks for the Ride On Weeksy, came at a good time!

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Anyone on tonight? Thinking of doing one of the races around 8.


 
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I don't know if the current results going round are related to ZP and CVR not being working, but yes, there's a few (lots of) riders battering the Cat limits in the races i'm seeing, more so than i'd usually expect to see. Yesterday i ended up racing twice as my Snap started throwing out random power, from 0 up to 1250w... neither of which i was doing at the time. I think it was down to incorrect tension on the adjuster as it worked again in the next race.

Yesterdays race i ended up doing was Aussie Crit series and it was pretty hard. I bailed on lap 5/6 as i'd done too much earlier... but there was a cracking group of 20+ out there, all going at a decent clip and a few guys flying along at around 4w/kg in B pushing us all on hard at times.

Usual story of me finding the H-G hill kick VERY hard though, it just seems a LOT easier for other people to hit 5+w/kg than it seems to be for me... But i hung in there on all the laps until i bailed.

The lack of ZP means though that bailing is now more of an option as there's no consequences to it, even though they're just silly ranking points, they matter.. So the sooner it all come back, the better IMO.

If i'm going to race today it will be 9:15am i'm afraid Nixie.


 
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Today, i can't even get a power output out of the Snap... 0 that's all it shows. Tried multiple Android devices, multiple laptops too... Nothing, nada....  Dead as... .well..... something that's dead.


 
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🙁


 
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Ouch !

If you can be arsed collecting from Romsey you can borrow my drivo while you get it sorted

(although "losing" my indoor option would obviously guarantee 40 days of rain for everyone in southern England - that's your risk !)


 
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Awwww thanks mate. I'm ok though, i'll just scoot outside anyway. Waiting for Wahoo support to tell me a plan, but they're on US time of course so slightly complex. But hopefully they'll give me an RMA etc and get it back to Evans.


 
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Well given all the outdoor miles i have done lately on pretty hilly routes i thought i would test my new deluded vision of being a mountain goat (fat goat) and try a double lap of greater london loop. I was so deluded that i thought it might be fun to do large stretches of box hill out of the saddle. I hadnt even got to box hill yet and i was hanging on to the back of the A group and blowing hard. Box hill arrived so closed my eyes, didnt bother getting out of the saddle and tried to maintan 400w all the way up. Not sure if i managed it but got up in 6:47 which is my best time in a race. Most of the A’s went up over 20s faster than that so had to solo the ne t lap which wasnt fun at all. I was leading B but way behind the A’s.


 
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I spent an hour messing about with my laptop and Zwift and eventually got it working. Mrs Weeksy was updating our Garmin Sat Nav the other day and messing with Garmin Express on my laptop, that conflicts with Zwift. But when i removed G/E it screwed up the Ant+ drivers too and i couldn't get it to even see my ant+ dongle.

Once i'd got that done i had a working Zwift after an uninstall and re-install of Zwift itself.

It was too late then to get a race i fancied but the 15:35 was a shortish flatish race but a TT due to my avatar and weight being big, i suit a draft not a TT. But in for a penny in for a pound as they say.

I went off well and was leading C.... 10th out of 25 on the road. I had 4 Bs behind me too. I was sticking to about 305w approx which is pretty strong for me ! As the race progressed i was caught by 1 guy but passed 3 others... So was sitting in 8th overall.... I was trying my hardest to maintain around 300w, but every now and again i'd drop below into the 250s and have to recover my head and kick on again. I wasn't sure on which gear, the smaller cog was giving me 80rpm, but the power was good.. 1 click up the box was 95rpm but felt like my heart rate was climbing more.. So i settled on bottom click for anything slightly down or 1% incline, 2% or over was a click lighter. That seemed to work.

Coming into the last 4km i had a guy on my wheel, he'd put out 4+ and then down to 2.... then up, then down... I think he was just trying to get the power in but the legs/heart wasn't playing, he passed me, i passed him, and again and again. With 1.5km to go though i broke him and pulled away, 2s, 3s, 6s, 11s.... I was over a minute ahead of the next C riders and no-one else was closing. But i tried to keep putting the power in..

I rolled over the line a mess... destroyed. Surely i'd increased my FTP which had been stuck this year on 275w... YES !... Oh.... 278w..... all that for a 3w increase LOL.

I enjoyed the ride, it was full on effort, heart race creeping, creeping.... but i enjoy pack racing more really... But at times it's frustrating trying to break a bunch... in the TT, it's just you and your pedals... get on with.

Sadly, Zwiftpower is still dead... but hey ho...


 
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Glad you got it working again. With that ftp your going to be in B soon surely?

Zwiftpower missing is also making it hard to pick a race based in distance (given that quite a few don't include that vital bit of info on the event list).


 
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Nah Nixie. I can mix it in B on some shorter flat races, but anything with a hill and my 89kg is destroying any chance I have of seeing a B. When I was riding on a roadie I wasn't a bad B. Now I'm on the 29er full time I'm not quite as fast. It would be slightly interesting to try a road bike again and see if I improve power with a better riding position, but I'm enjoying the 29er.


 
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AHH I'm being silly, was comparing FTPs without taking weight into account (I'm 80kg and even that is hard work up the hills).

I did the EVR two laps of Greater London this evening. Mixed with the As group till Box Hill on lap one. They then disappeared along with two Bs. Me and one other B ended up together at the top and then picked up a straggling A (TBH they waited for us). Just before the ramp on lap two the A disappeared, just couldn't match their power. I pulled out 30s on the other B up Box hill on lap two which just left holding a reasonably high power output for the 5k to the end. Didn't even need to sprint. Finished third in B I think. I spent a lot of this race using lower gearsbamd higher cadence. Managed most of it over 80RPM including both big climbs. Also working on smoothness as I'm very lumpy.


 
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Good work Nixie 🙂  nice one.


 
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Great effort Nixie, that second climb of box hill is tough if you have gone hard on the first.

Weeksy - glad you are up and running but that sounds like a ball ache if you are going to have to do that after every garmin update.

rest day today, done 120 miles in the last 3 days with over 7000ft of climbing.


 
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I will wait and see Blader, i'm not convinced both things are completely related. When i was getting 0 power rating, the laptop was working fine and happy. So whether there's still an issue with Turbo i don't know.

I've got a case open in Wahoo and Evans should i need it for warranty anyway... So we'll see.

I was planning a rest day today... but it's been drizzling outside so currently no KTM riding.. So it's generally either/or... If i'm not riding the KTM, i'm riding the turbo/outdoors. But if i do ride, will be a 150w effort and cruising for an hour.


 
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1 race in the last 2 months for me, I may as well cancel the sub in truth. The draw of outside is too strong at the moment, running is I'm short on time, the bike if I have time spare.

Re. cadence, there are some proper spinners on here I see. 75rpm is normal for me on the road, just over 80 in Zwift.


 
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I'm in for the wbr 11:20 short and classique 3 lapper today


 
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Thanks both. Bizarrely I thought I'd gone harder on the second Box hill climb but actually was two seconds slower! Think I'm going to try a three sisters race when we are back in Watopia!

Out for a ride IRL today, do wish I had more time to escape outdoors however I'm definitely noticing an improvement in my real riding from using zwift (better fitness).


 
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Bleeuuurrrgghhh i was rubbish today. LOL.

257w average, could have gone a bit harder, but was no point as the group was impossible for me to split. I did try at the start of lap 3 and got a 4s lead on them, but i'd have had to maintain 340w to hold it i rekon... No way that was happening today, so settled back in.... then got destroyed in the sprint as usual 😀


 
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Sprints, urggh, I've been going easy on those since I made myself sick a few weeks ago!


 
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@weeksy - "We’ll need to get Crosshair and NathB racing again."

Think I may restart, getting married in 4 weeks or so and dare not risk another Hillingdon crit 😆

@scaled - kind of saw that coming sorry! I guess it's hard to benchmark if you don't race road bikes outside too?

(Congrats on the baby)

It does show you can't take zwift racing results seriously unfortunately, it'll always be a game/motivational tool not a sim.

General update from me:

- Swapped the Tacx Vortex for a Elite Direto - much quieter and feels much nicer on the bike too, both feel and general position (was never convinced the block riser was the right height) plus I can move my arms left and right to turn 🙂

- I did a free trial with trainerroad - and wow I've never experience pain like this before, it's brilliant!! I started in the speciality phase skipping all the base so it threw me right in at the deep end! I'll be using this to train with and zwift to log miles as Zwifts plans look lacklustre in comparison!

- My FTP is up to 335w (4.8w/kg) - which I'm incredibly happy with as it's off 0-6 hours of riding a week since end of Feb after 2+ months off the bike. My weight is fluctuating between 68-72kg as my diet is all over the place. It seems coming off a keto diet has boosted my cycling tenfold, but clearly it's done some remarkable stuff in regards to my ability to fat burn on the bike. Will be returning to the diet in base phases of cycling for sure.


 
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Three laps of Volcano circuit for me last night. Not a huge amount happened till near the end. Lead group stuck together with no serious attempts to break away. I lost 30s on the lead group at around the 6k mark. Managed to get back to 3s down but couldnt close the final gap. Ended up one minute off the first finisher. Third placed B I think and sixth overall. I did then manage to grab both the bridge sprint jerseys for some light relief.


 
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