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my great aunt was in a prisoner of war camp in Nagasaki when the bomb was dropped. the camp was sheltered from the blast by a hill, and was upwind of the fallout. she lived until 96. no idea what my point is.
way back in the mists of time(early 60's)my dad was in the army and was in the artillery and in a regiment called 50th missile there job if the sh*t hit the fan was to drive out into the woods in Germany and lunch there truck mount missile called an honest john into East Germany with a small nuke warhead onboard.
And there advise to dealing the the retailation was below a certain level of contamination they were to head for prelocated decontamination area,above this level they were given a gun and as many bullets as they could carry and pointed in the direction of the oncoming russian and told to kill as many as possible before dying of radaition poisioning and the last level the advise was to stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye !! 😯
lunch would be the last think on my mind.
Just finished reading War Plan by Duncan Cambell, really interesting read, it seems a sif all the prisoners would be let out, old people would be left to die, the hospitals would somehow survive, as would all the senior members of the governmnet,dogs would run wild and eat people,dead people would not be burrried, the banks would cease to give out money,shops that where still in existance,would run out of food,and there may well be civil disobedience
and a lot lot more.
Basicly if you have got a bunker,dont live on a major populated area, dont live near any industry, motorway, or railway, you may survive.
Oh and postal services are unlikely to run, so CRC may be a while delivering.
I would because I'm CBRN trained and there would be loads of overtime going. Probably enough to pay for a conservatory.
I would stick around - you never know I might be one of those people who are to have a letter giving tax rebate off the taxman.... 😉
[i]my great aunt was in a prisoner of war camp in Nagasaki when the bomb was dropped. the camp was sheltered from the blast by a hill, and was upwind of the fallout. she lived until 96. no idea what my point is[/i]
Niether do I but It's pretty unusual.
just read this if you havent already.. it will depress the living sh*t out of you!
yes before all the book whores tell me "but it didnt say it was a nuclear fall out"
its gives quite a good idea of what it may be like..
i think i'd run outside in my pants and get a nice suntan then melt.
it would take years and years for the earth to recover, it wouldnt be worth it.
monkey_boy - Memberi think i'd run outside in my pants.
it would take years and years for the earth to recover, it wouldnt be worth it.
You must look pretty bad in pants then...
*shudders*
You should all come to Canada - loads of space for everyone. Interesting thought, though, that a decent bike and the knowledge of how to bodge it to work for years might be one of the most valuable things left...
Cor... 😯
nicko74 - Member
...Interesting thought, though, that a decent bike and the knowledge of how to bodge it to work for years might be one of the most valuable things left...
Single speeders would rule - does that make us like cockroaches? 🙂
What tyres for Nuclear fallout?
Unfortunately, along with the cockroaches, most of the guests on J Kyle show would survive-dooming the human race to apathy, inbreeding and dying a slow, stupid death of ignorance. At least they could walk around the shops on saturday, smoking and swearing at their kids in peace!
I'm all prepped for toughing it out, even bought an ex-USAF Geiger counter off Ebay for £25.
I'd try and survive, survival of the fittest isn't it? Survive and your genes go on to repopulate the world!
No, i'll embrace the blast. It wouldn't take to many war heads to desolate the UK. And radiation sickness isn't something i'll want to die off.
Me and cricket bat and wait for it to fall, I'd prefer to underneath it when it dropped. Dam the rest of you!
Oh and postal services are unlikely to run, so CRC may be a while delivering.
Cue lots of threads on here complaining.
In the 80s I attended a number of "courses" relating to Civil Defence after we upgraded our early warning systems and was bemused by the instructions I was supposed to follow in the event of an a nuclear attack warning.Basically I was supposed to round up a number of designated VIPs and take them to secret bunkers so as they would survive. But I had a machine gun.......and they didnt.
I know an old chap who was on Christmas Island, he watched over 20 nukes go off, google "Operation Dominic 1" he says the nukes were quite pretty but the thermo nukes were scary, some guys were running down the beach screaming trying to get away from the thermo nukes, he says when they detonate your brain "lights up!" he has lots of long term health issues, he co wrote a book called "megaton mornings" amazing to speak to someone who has seen such things, they are few and far between,
PJ.
Interesting subject this (if a little horrifying). During the cold war there was plenty of western speculation as to what a Soviet attack would look like, one scenario I skimmed through when studying my degree described how the then government (circa 1980) expected no fewer than 6 nuclear strikes against London and a maximum of 11. There were not really any plans to evacuate London as far as I could tell even if conventional warfare had broken out in Europe...
Since the end of the cold war various soviet plans have been published in Poland and the Czech Republic. Some of these show Soviet plans expected a NATO nuclear strike first to which much of West Germany and the Low countries would be hit first. The UK and France were surprisingly spared (probably to allow for consolidation in W Germany and then for cooler heads to prevail - i.e. a western surrender).
God knows what would happen today, all missiles are supposed to be de-targeted and as there are fewer of them a limited tactical strike rather than MAD is probably a lot more likely.
Anyway my bet is (if it happens) a nuclear war will be fought in the East rather than Western Europe so other than all our cheap goods and general lack of foodstuffs we'd probably fare pretty well.
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i'd welcome some form of apocalypse if as I expect, many garden centres and gift shops would lose trade and subsequently go out of business
On a serious note though - I reckon you can't really say what you'd do in the event of a nuclear apocalypse until you know for certain whether the zombies would be the fast, 28 days later type (bad) or the slow, shuffling type (less bad)...
BigEaredBiker - Member
Interesting subject this (if a little horrifying). During the cold war there was plenty of western speculation as to what a Soviet attack would look like, one scenario I skimmed through when studying my degree described how the then government (circa 1980) expected no fewer than 6 nuclear strikes against London and a maximum of 11. There were not really any plans to evacuate London as far as I could tell even if conventional warfare had broken out in Europe...Since the end of the cold war various soviet plans have been published in Poland and the Czech Republic. Some of these show Soviet plans expected a NATO nuclear strike first to which much of West Germany and the Low countries would be hit first. The UK and France were surprisingly spared (probably to allow for consolidation in W Germany and then for cooler heads to prevail - i.e. a western surrender).
God knows what would happen today, all missiles are supposed to be de-targeted and as there are fewer of them a limited tactical strike rather than MAD is probably a lot more likely.
Anyway my bet is (if it happens) a nuclear war will be fought in the East rather than Western Europe so other than all our cheap goods and general lack of foodstuffs we'd probably fare pretty well.
Thanks for that.
I agree that it is both interesting and horrifying stuff.
Epicyclo
which base do you speak of?
(sorry, but I haven't been doing much STW of late, so missed your question)
If you're thinking of the one on the Clyde, then four hours away.
If there are any up in the north - wait....the Gairloch base near Aultbea?
Bugger.
Two hours.
****ed.
