[Closed] Would you eat the dog?

As an 'outdoorsman', he should have been more than able to source food.

I'm out.

I don't think I could give an accurate answer unless I was in his predicament, but laying here in my bed with a full fridge downstairs I would say no.

Sure, if in the same situation as the guy in the newspaper, would draw the line if just pekish and too lazy to cook or order in.
Makes note to take large dog if ever I go in a 3 month wilderness trip

Yes. Not that keen on dogs though, so might have eaten it anyway.

How long before the dog had got so hungry that it would have tried to eat him?

I'd have eaten the bear 8)

He killed his beloved dog "a few days after the attack". So he didn't tough it out for very long.

I think the dog would have done the gene pool a favour by killing and eating [i]him[/i].

Christ, I've nearly ate the dog while I was waiting for my giro before now..

Must remember to get a more fleshy dog, my lurcher would feed me for long!

Pot poodle?

Chow Chow mein

suffering from hypothermia and dehydration when he was found and had lost half his body weight, authorities said.

article quotes outdoors man.............

as a vegetarian [b]NO[/b][u] the dog lives.

as a realist in a difficult position Possibly, depending on circumstances

Was he in a difficult position?

Why was he dehydrated...plenty of ways to get water with limited kit,
Was he injured in bear attack........???

He may have become dehydrated due to a severe case of the shits I suppose.

The shih tzu suppose then?

Sausage dog or hot dog anyone else!

I would shag it first

as a vegetarian NO[u] the dog lives.

What if it was a collie flower?

Seems he'd have died if he hadn't eaten the dog so not sure what the issue is really.

There are plenty of stories of the lengths people have gone to to survive. So while it is hard to visualise while I'm sat here eating breakfast I guess I would because human nature is to survive and a slow lingering death from starvation has little appeal.

AA was that after eating the dog? badly cooked dog maybe too rare

Never understand why meat eaters get squeamish or sentimental about certain types of animals but are happy to have industrial production and slaughter of others

if it came to survival, and I am a vegan, i would eat a dog and humans if required. i would not be killing the later in a Lord of the Flies style I meant more that airplane crash type scenario
3 days seems a bit early mind for it to be a life or death scenario

Mmmmmm, this outdoor cooking really is the dogs bollocks!

Junky, the meat that we eat generally doesn't eat meat itself. Dog does and as such can cause problems if we subsequently eat it.

Don't get me wrong, in a life or death situation, I'd get stuck in no problems. But while I have choice, no thanks.

What a terrierable story.

I am a vegan

Junkyard - Quick question, are you a strict vegan? By that I mean no dairy or animal products at all?

I am curious as I really don't know how you achieve this? It must be extremely difficult! What do you actually eat?

my dog is trained to hunt and maim vegans and bring them to me, so I'd be ok for organic meat.
even in the wilderness, there'd be a fine selection of them hugging a tree in the forest, weaving moss in the tundra or burying their head in the sand in the desert...

What do you actually eat?

I've seen him eating sausage a few times.

I'm sufficiently in touch with my survival instincts to know that if Waitrose doesn't deliver there, I'm not going there—the 'wilderness' is full of idiots and car-stealing bears

"Never understand why meat eaters get squeamish or sentimental about certain types of animals but are happy to have industrial production and slaughter of others"

It wasn't just any old dog it was HIS dog. Eating it is easy but clubbing a beloved pet to death with a rock? GS are very intelligent / faithful so the guy must have been in some state to even bring himself to contemplate that.

I am curious as I really don't know how you achieve this? It must be extremely difficult! What do you actually eat?

I'm also curious. Why do you think it would be so difficult?

So long as your not eating processed foods it should be fairly simple.

am curious as I really don't know how you achieve this? It must be extremely difficult! What do you actually eat?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest vegetables, fruit and nuts.

I hope he made a hat or at least a waist coat out of its hide, so as to remember the occasion and have a handy conversation starter at parties, "oh what this little old thing? that was my dog, funny story... etc"

Yes I would. Not the liver though. You'll get into all sorts of problems if you do that.

Never understand why meat eaters get squeamish or sentimental about certain types of animals but are happy to have industrial production and slaughter of others

I think in this case it's more to do with eating your own pet rather than just another animal.

Yes I would. Not the liver though. You'll get into all sorts of problems if you do that.

Cheers for that, useful bit of info for the impending apocalypse.

Not the liver though

Every day is a school day!

Know someone who went to a place in china and you pick which one you want and they take it out back and bring your meal few mins later...

Not sure i really want to look my food in the eyes before i eat it but definitely would eat any animal if life or death

would vegetarians eat their pet cauliflower?

If he killed and ate his dog a few days after a bear stole all his food, what did he eat the rest of the 3 months before he was found ?

Would you eat the dog?

No. I would not eat the dog even when I am dying of starvation.
Dying is very much easier than having to eat the dog. Living is shite.

The person who eat his dog to stay alive after the dog saved him is a person whose moral compass is screwed. He does not know how to differentiate the right from the wrong and the respect that goes with owning his life to the dog. This person is a maggot and should stepped on.

I will feed him to the bear ...

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maggots have rights too!

Dying is very much easier than having to eat the dog. [b]Living is shite.[/b]

You may think so, but I quite enjoy it really

And would eat the dog to stay alive.

My moral compass is fine.

'Outdoorsman.' [i]Really?[/i] Within an hour of arriving in 'the wilderness' Ray Mears would be setting up the hot tub he’d whittled from a fallen tree outside the house he’d built from sticks having just downed three courses with coffee and petits fours made from boiled bark and roasted roots—and German Shepherd’s pie would not have been on the menu
You don't eat you dog. Not ever.

You obviously didn't hear the interview with Ray Mears on the radio then ?

The one where he said eating the dog was a difficult thing to do, but was the right decision in the circumstances.

Moral compass lol, so the dog which would only live for another say 10 years maximum should be left in the wild when it's owner dies probably to be eaten by a bear, rather than a man who probably has a family to provide for and live another 50+ years eat it...

also the point about killing the dog after a few days, surely that makes sense as I doubt he would have survived long if he had to share all his meals to keep the dog alive.

Eat the dog? In his situation? Yes. No problem. Not sure I could eat my fellow passengers like the survivors of that plane crash in the Andes did though. But if I was hungry enough?

Quick question, are you a strict vegan? By that I mean no dairy or animal products at all?

I am curious as I really don't know how you achieve this? It must be extremely difficult! What do you actually eat?

I've seen him eating sausage a few times.

Mainly pasta, curries and stir frys and tons of pulses + what A_A said

I thought that a lot of modern agriculture used fertilizers that were produced from animal products, bone meal etc? e.g. How can you be sure when you buy pasta that the wheat has not been grown with slaughtered animals? Or with manure from dairy herds?

I do like the odd cake though

Surely this has to contain dairy or it wouldn't be a cake?

I am not trying to be pedantic it just strikes me that it must be almost completely impossible to avoid food that is not directly connected to the industrial farming and slaughter of animals?

Or do you just take a pragmatic view on it?

Or with manure from dairy herds?

Is that a serious question ? 😯

Wheat grown in a field which contains cow's shit is not classed as an animal product.

Wheat grown in a field which contains cow's shit is not classed as an animal product.

I agree the wheat is not an animal product.

However, if somebody is vegan as they do not agree with modern industrial farming methods and the suffering of the animals, then surely they would have a problem with the connection between mass dairy farming and the shit on their wheat?

Surely it's the same principle as not wearing leather clothing?

Not a problem on eating the pooch, must have been a nightmare finding all those poop bags in the wilderness, two problems solved.

So no milk or eggs right? What are the reasons? What would happen to the cows and chickens if none of us ate their products?

Whilst the world is not vegan its an easy sport for a meat eater [ interestingly on a thread about whether meat eaters would eat a certain type of meat ] to try and find some hypocrisy or yes but re the diet.

I make the cakes you think you can buy a vegan cake anywhere? Only place I know is vegan places it not something you get from Greggs.

I do try my best but life has taught me that apparently its not good enough for some meat eaters
This gets done to death on here and in real life for me to want to do it all over again.
FWIW I dont ask meat eaters why they would throw a live lobsters into boiling water whislt thinking only a monster would do it with baby robins and kittens.

What would happen to the cows and chickens if none of us ate their products?

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However, if somebody is vegan as they do not agree with modern industrial farming methods......

I think most vegans would have a problem eating a wild animal which had been killed using a bow and arrow. I don't think "modern industrial farming methods" is necessarily the issue.

Surely it's the same principle as not wearing leather clothing?

There are a number of degrees of separation difference though aren't there?

I'm sure there are probably vegans [i]somewhere[/i] who might object, but as with all forms of applying ethics to what one eats, the more hoops you want to jump though (or going by these threads, the more hoops omnivores like to think of) the more difficult it's going to be.

>Not sure I could eat my fellow passengers like the survivors of that plane crash in the Andes did though.<

There is a difference. They were dead already so that removes the killing part of the equation.

I own a German Shepherd and he's like one of the family. Yup he's "just" a dog but to contemplate killing him I really would have to be up sh1t creek. Great shame his loyal dog bought it because the so called outdoorsman was insufficeintly skilled to obtain food by any other means.

Junkyard - I am not criticizing your choice and I am not preaching either.

I have made my own diet choices that I really think are the best ones for me. A lot of people do not agree.

I am genuinely interested in how you manage your beliefs/diet in the 1st World? If it is based on that it is wrong to kill animals for human food.

I am aware that a lot of vegans won't wear leather but the animal was not bred and slaughtered to provide the leather but primarily for food. Even if we all stopped wearing leather tomorrow the animals would still be farmed for food.

In the same respect, modern dairy farming, where almost 50% of all the calves born are slaughtered immediately as they have no financial worth, then any byproducts of this process i.e. shit, must be avoided. Hence wheat produced with this must be a problem?

A great argument for being a vegan must that if we concentrated on growing crops rather than raising animals the quantity of food produced would be far greater as a far more efficient use of land.

Never understand why meat eaters get squeamish or sentimental about certain types of animals but are happy to have industrial production and slaughter of others

The story is not about eating any old random dog, but a member of one's own family. I think I'd rather starve.

Though I suspect the guy's relationship with the dog wasn't all that.

brakes - Member

maggots have rights too!

Real maggots, yes. It's part of ecology. This maggot ate the life out of a dog that saved his life, no. Even if he has higher "intelligence".

wiggles - Member

Moral compass lol, so the dog which would only live for another say 10 years maximum should be left in the wild when it's owner dies probably to be eaten by a bear, rather than a man who probably has a family to provide for and live another 50+ years eat it...

If you want to put it this way then he should not be in the wild in the first place if he cannot deal with outdoor survival.

Family to provide for? Shouldn't he consider that before venturing outdoor by himself? Yeah right ... this maggot should be squashed and his family starve for his selfish act. One less maggot walking on this earth one more free space to breath ...

wiggles - Member

also the point about killing the dog after a few days, surely that makes sense as I doubt he would have survived long if he had to share all his meals to keep the dog alive.

He should be eaten by the bear alive ... he survived long enough as maggot. Also if the dog can survive that long why can't he?

Maggot. I will feed him to Nile crocodiles and see the crocodiles perform death roll ...

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chewkw - Member
brakes - Member
maggots have rights too!
Real maggots, yes. It's part of ecology. This maggot ate the life out of a dog that saved his life, no. Even if he has higher "intelligence".
wiggles - Member
Moral compass lol, so the dog which would only live for another say 10 years maximum should be left in the wild when it's owner dies probably to be eaten by a bear, rather than a man who probably has a family to provide for and live another 50+ years eat it...
If you want to put it this way then he should not be in the wild in the first place if he cannot deal with outdoor survival.
Family to provide for? Shouldn't he consider that before venturing outdoor by himself? Yeah right ... this maggot should be squashed and his family starve for his selfish act. One less maggot walking on this earth one more free space to breath ...
wiggles - Member
also the point about killing the dog after a few days, surely that makes sense as I doubt he would have survived long if he had to share all his meals to keep the dog alive.
He should be eaten by the bear alive ... he survived long enough as maggot. Also if the dog can survive that long why can't he?
Maggot. I will feed him to Nile crocodiles and see the crocodiles perform death roll ...

? I think you have real world problems.

kevj - Member

? I think you have real world problems.

Yes, I know as I am surrounded by maggots constantly trying to make me as their meal ... 🙄

If he'd died the dog would have eaten him.

Northwind - Member

If he'd died the dog would have eaten him.

We don't know that because he did not die.
He should die and then someone should be there to observe if the dog would make a meal out of him ... an opportunity for scientific observation.

Shrodinger's dog snack

Hell yeh, It wouldn't be a walk in the park killing it but yeh, Dog or death is a pretty short decision tree.

I had to strangle a rabbit the other night, chap on the bike in front ran over it/it ran under him, I wasn't a hug fan of the killing with your hands thing but we did eat it so, you know, Karma?

Chewk, I think you have some issues that need examining.
Would I eat the dog? I don't have a dog, and no intention of doing so, so I'd be stuffed. I also wouldn't venture out into that sort of wilderness against the advice of locals who told him that the river was too dangerous for one person to attempt on their tod.
I'd maybe attempt it with Ray Mears, but certainly not with Bear Grills.

After treading in some dog sh3t tonight then riding through some more hidden under leaves would i eat the dogs..yes and their owners. 👿

I'd maybe attempt it with Ray Mears, but certainly not with Bear Grills.

Damn straight

Loads more meals in a mears than a grylls

CountZero - Member

Chewk, I think you have some issues that need examining.

Nothing to exam here ... 😆

Yep

I'd maybe attempt it with Ray Mears, but certainly not with Bear Grills.

Why not?

A few nights in 5 star hotels would be lovely