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Council suspends six teachers after they locked a kid ina room after he stole a knife and threatened people with it.

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Head teacher Cath Woodall, 51, who was not on duty at the time, is among those being questioned by police after the nine-year-old boy made threats against teachers and pupils.
The boy was confronted by school staff after he took a knife from the kitchen area of Revoe Primary School in Blackpool, Lancashire.
A teacher blocked the boy's path through the school and he started to kick out at her. The staff member then put the boy in a restraining hold approved for use by police officers.
Finally he was placed in a small room with a glass window to try and calm him down. One teacher stood outside for forty minutes before the boy calmed down sufficiently.

Not sure what is more stupid, the action taken against the teacher or the job title of the person in charge.

n a letter to parents, Charlotte Clarke, the council's head of universal services and school effectiveness, wrote...


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:39 am
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World [s]gone[/s] gorn mad I tell you


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:43 am
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On reading the article, it appears that it was more than this one incident. It seems the whole way of treating disruptive pupils has been called into question.

Presumably the boy had the knife taken off him, and was then locked in a small cupboard. I would question if this was the correct course of action. Perhaps it went against the laid down guidelines. Therefore this ost is a vast over reaction.

The full details are not clear, so it is easy to jump to comclusions.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:48 am
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My wifes school was designed with small rooms that allow children who are being violent and or extremely disruptive to be isolated.

Unbeleivable over reaction in the above case if it is really just about isolating a pupil like that.

I've sent my kids to their rooms when they've lost it - I wouldn't expect social services to get involved.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:49 am
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I've sent my kids to their rooms when they've lost it

😯

*reported to the [s]mods[/s]social services*


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:52 am
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Idiots.

Any investigation should actually be looking at the offending child & why they behaved as they did, not condemning the teachers for preventing a knife-wielding kid from causing physical harm to any number of teachers & pupils.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:53 am
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philconcequence - I took my sons internet access away the other day too - he said I'd violated his human rights

*reports self*


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:55 am
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Would have thought if you've got a nuts child with a knife, then the duty of care to the other children is most important thing. But as above their sounds to have been other incidents, full story won't be contained in one revelation in the news.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:56 am
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I raised my voice to my son yesterday and threatened him with an early bedtime.

I immediately contacted the police & social services.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:57 am
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Daughters school went into lockdown last week during their Ofsted inspection! 2 kids went on the rampage!!
Usual practice in the area is to suspend unruly kids when school is being inspected?
Being assaulted is a daily occurrence for primary school teachers.
My neighbour is upset that the level of support her autistic son receives, or is not receiving following recent budget cuts. As he get older he is showing different symptoms and has recently started to become violent towards fellow pupils and teachers. He is in a "normal" classroom situation but with reduced teacher support which will get worse come the next round of cuts when class sizes are due to increase 🙄

I used to help out with special needs swimming with local schools. I got the invite simply to help "manage" kids who were a similar size to myself ie 6ft, the female teachers were all barely 5' 5" ! Most of the "helpers" could barely swim and had no life saving training/skills.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 9:59 am
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I would question if this was the correct course of action

what was the correct course of action?


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 10:06 am
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correct course of action.... if america has taught us anything... teachers carrying their own damn guns!


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 10:07 am
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Does this mean i can't lock my kid in the downstairs cupboard when he doesn't eat his breakfast any more?


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 10:11 am
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Thats a bit OTT Philly. You need to get a sense of perspective. If the kids got a knife, then surely, say, a big Samurai sword would do the trick


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 10:11 am
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[i] preventing a knife-wielding kid from causing physical harm to [b]any number of teachers & pupils[/b].[/i]

Do you write for the Mail? Kid was 9 years old 😆


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 10:13 am
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The fact is, none of us have the full facts, there is obviously enough of a concern that the police and education authorities are treating it seriously and investigating further and if people want to tell the world what should or shouldn't have been done / be done now about a situation of which you know precious little, isn't that what the Daily Mail has a comments section for?


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 10:18 am
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We had a really disruptive idiot in our class. Our Geography teacher snapped and literally through him across the tops of the desks then locked him in his store room for the rest of the class.

Not one of us made a complaint and we all pretended it didn't happen. Loads of other robust stuff happened, again it brought kids into lien.

Amazes me that teachers can get in shit nowadays from all angles.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 1:09 pm
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Thats a bit OTT Philly. You need to get a sense of perspective. If the kids got a knife, then surely, say, a big Samurai sword would do the trick

Nah, he's right - all about escalation and deterrent innit. You [i]have[/i] heard of the saying regarding bringing knives to gunfights right...? 😆


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 2:53 pm
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philconcequence - I took my sons internet access away the other day too - he said I'd violated his human rights

My girlfriend did this when she was 15 ( some 16 years ago, probably) she didn't say it though, she wrote it.

Detailing which rights where broken, and where these rights can be found if proof was required. This letter took up 3 a4 pages and her parents still have it. They found it hilarious.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 3:03 pm
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We really do need to be a little more protective of teachers in situations like this but far less so when they are crap teachers. It would seem that we have got things a bit arse-about-face at the moment.

Wonder how some would view the goings on in a 70's Comp in Rotherham - probably instant apoplexy!


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 4:19 pm
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The biggest single controlling factor for any behavour is fear of the consequences and to put it bluntly, there are no real, effective, consequences anymore.


 
Posted : 27/02/2013 7:35 pm