scuttler - MemberITS A SHADOW!!!
Surely it's a camel? 😉
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They remind me of those obnoxious ‘lycra lout’ bikers who cause havoc by whizzing through the byways and highways at the weekend with not a care in the world apart from beating their fastest time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/jogger-rage-runners-getting-aggressive1/
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Bus driver's reactions are amazing. I reckon he's in on it. FAKE NEWS.
One thing someone picked up on on Fb is the jogger passes a bloke just before the woman and shows no reaction, the pedestrian is in almost exactly the same position on the path, but as soon as the jogger approaches the woman, he clearly moves across towards her then brings his arm up, hitting her, and pushing her with his other hand,
Watching the video full screen on my pad, pausing it just before he hits her, then scrubbing forward frame by frame, it's as clear as anything it's deliberate and he barely breaks stride as he does it, it's almost as if he's practiced it, it's so smooth.
bullheart - Member
Looked like roleplay to me. Bit of flirting perhaps? The missus and I regularly participate in 'Friday night rough and tumble' - this week it's supposed to be prison warden vs lag, but I might dig my Lycra and her pencil skirt out...
How do you find walking in a pencil skirt?
How do you find walking in a pencil skirt?
Auto-correct?
RM.
Every time this thread comes back to the top I look at the title and think 'Did the OP watch a different video to everyone else?'.
Anyway....what knee pads for walking to work 😉
Every time this thread comes back to the top I look at the title and think 'Did the OP watch a different video to everyone else?'.
I assumed it was an attempt at humour.
I reckon the two of them pass frequently
As they approach, the jogger is on the left and you can see that he was heading towards the woman who moves to her left so as to avoid him. At the same moment, the jogger moves to his right to avoid her.
Anyone who uses busy pavements will know this happens all the time it's just being aware of other people. The decision you have to make is whether to stay on course or move over, and often the other person will do the same thing so you end up doing a ridiculous shimmy on the pavement. The Germans have the best technique - they simply stop and the other person goes around them.
In this video the jogger decides to stay where he is, the woman does the same thing and they collide.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40889511 ]Man held over woman 'pushed into bus'[/url]
Can't see how they'd get a conviction for anything over this. Rocketman's version will be the one put forward. Can't and won't prove the necessary intent for any kind of assault charge.
In this video the jogger decides to stay where he is, the woman does the same thing and they collide.
still failing to see how anyone can not see his change of direction and his deliberate push shown by how his arm furthest away is involved.
If he had just bumped into her it would just have been a clash of shoulders, or at most one of his arms being raised.
The pavement was not busy - there was plenty of room to his left for him to make the same degree of change of direction as he made but to his left and he would have been nowhere near her.
These days the court in which he will be tried most severely, will be that of social media.
His name will come out and I wonder if he will have a job in a months time
~75-100Kg man jogging knocks down woman on pavement, huge public outcry on the internet.
People driving cars with ~10-20x the mass at typically ~5x (or more) the speed, hit cyclists who are then badly injured or dead, the silence is deafening.
still failing to see how anyone can not see his change of direction and his deliberate push shown by how his arm furthest away is involved.
Agreed. re-watcehd the footage and can't see it as anything other than deliberate.
Would love to know why.
Thing is, if he really did want to push her under the bus, surely its just random chance that he was passing her at exactly the right time a bus happened to be about to pass?
the main sign its deliberate is that he does not even stop after knowing he has just "accidentally knocked " someone into the road
No one who does this by accident just carries on jogging they stop for obvious reasons.
TBH its getting harder to tell who is a troll on here v who is just utterly deranged
Can't see how they'd get a conviction for anything over this. Rocketman's version will be the one put forward. Can't and won't prove the necessary intent for any kind of assault charge.
Agree.
I'm an unfit jogger - I veer and lurch a bit and could easily swerve the way he did and clout someone, instinctively raising my hands as a buffer then gasping my appologies and carrying on without properly looking back.
Occams razor says accident. If it isn't then someone out jogging decided to assault a stranger for no reason which seems even less likely.
A jogger bumped into David Cameron a while back. Joggers fall under cars. it's not exactly rare.
Maybe he had an inner ear disorder, maybe he's got some kind of motor control issue. There are all kind of explanations for veering into someone.
As stoatsbrother has said, the jury of public opinion has already cast its verdict.
knowing he has just "accidentally knocked " someone into the road
Failure to stop is totally inconclusive. If you did get your kicks deliberately pushing women under buses then you'd *definitely* stop and profusely apologise to make it look like an accident.
All not stopping shows is that he didn't know she'd hit the deck in a big way. It tells us nothing about intent.
"the incident, which happened on 5 May"
Dunno about fake news, but it is OLD news!
Thing is, if he really did want to push her under the bus, surely its just random chance that he was passing her at exactly the right time a bus happened to be about to pass?
Indeed, and if your plan to assault someone involved pretending to be out jogging and accidently clouting them wouldn't you a) Veer gradually rather than at the last minute b) Stop and pretend to be concerned. c) Not come back the way you went 15 minutes later.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40889511 ]Suspect now arrested[/url]
Regardless of any past history, which I don't see, it's pretty much a dick move.
What's the usual sentence for the crime of being an utter bastard?
All not stopping shows is that he didn't know she'd hit the deck in a big way
I know when i run into someone i only check if they "Hit the deck in a big way" when its accidental - i then also ignore them when I return and they are still being treated for their injuries - this is what we all do at accidents surely 🙄
It tells us nothing about intent.
As i said i cannot tell who is trolling and who is dense on this thread
He has been arrested; you are free to continue to ignore the evidence to your hearts content
I think the push was deliberate, the fact that she almost fell under a bus coincidental.
I had thought that they had previous, BUT having looked at it again, I think its a simple case of him being [s]in the zone[/s] a nob and noticed something about her, maybe she was texting whilst walking and not looking where she was going. He's clearly had enough of this sort of nonsense so decides to teach her a lesson and 'accidentally' bumps in to her, shouting something like 'watch where you're going'. Whether or not at this point he knows he nearly killed her I'm not sure, however he realizes how much of a plonker he's been and tries to carry on regardless.
I've heard the term 'Joggers rage' mentioned in relation to this, where people act weirdly due to low blood sugar levels.
I think you might need to look up the definition of coincidence...
Can't see how they'd get a conviction for anything over this. Rocketman's version will be the one put forward. Can't and won't prove the necessary intent for any kind of assault charge.
Well I'm assuming the woman feels she's been assaulted, and I've just repeatedly watched a video that seems to confirm the assault. The arrested man will have his say I'm sure. But if I was on a jury he'd need a bloody good reason to explain his actions and avoid a conviction.
To speculate as to why he pushed the woman, I'd guess pure and simple meanness, maybe just having a bad day and wanted to take it out on someone.
It also looks like it could have been a defensive shove,maybe he thought she had bumped/shouldered him and pushed her away.
I can't see from the footage but it doesn't look like he'd know for sure there was a bus there.
I can't see from the footage but it doesn't look like he'd know for sure there was a bus there.
If it was deliberate he'd certainly know there was traffic there, obviously he wouldn't know the next vehicle was a bus. If it was accidental who knows what he was aware of, not much by the looks of it.
Plausible from PieFace.
I've heard the term 'Joggers rage' mentioned in relation to this, where people act weirdly due to low blood sugar levels.
Interesting. I had a bizarre experience when on a ride a year or two back, big group of runners coming towards me, slow right down and get to one side, yet one of them still goes nuts, screams at me to get out the way and tries to push me off my bike. Turned out they were on the last day of some three day running event. The joggers rage kind of explains it.
On second thoughts he does look to be trying to keep pace with the bus...
Pieface - Member
I can't see from the footage but it doesn't look like he'd know for sure there was a bus there.
He'd know there was a road there. He'd know it's a very busy road. He'd know that there may have been moving traffic on said road.
Joggers rage
Nobbers rage
Joggers rage
Has anyone ever seen a happy jogger?
One who looks like they're actually enjoying the experience?
Jus' sayin'
BBC news website seems all over the place with this story. Initially it said a 41yr old man had been arrested in Chelsea and then held in custody. Now it's a 50yr old man who was held at his home and then released.
Man needs locking up! He pushes her looks at where she falls and carries on.
Accident and he'd stop. Defensive shove and he'd look back.
BBC news website seems all over the place with this story. Initially it said a 41yr old man had been arrested in Chelsea and then held in custody. Now it's a 50yr old man who was held at his home and then released.
The Mail / Express will soon clear this all up, he will be an illegal immigrant who thought the pedestrian looked like Diana, so pushed he under the bus because he hates the Royal family.....
So can you punch a jogger clean in the jaw now and it's ok?
All runners are psychopaths! It stands to reason. It's not like it's normal behaviour is it? God invented bikes so you wouldn't need too.
I'm convinced that nobody actually goes fell running. I firmly believe that the ones I see out on the moors when I'm riding are actually just returning from disposing of bodies. You can see it in their eyes
This was just a case of one of them being in the city but unable to overcome his natural urge to kill
Has anyone ever seen a happy jogger?
I always used to run with a smile on my face.
I genuinely loved it. Injuries, non-running mostly, forcing me stop pisses me off most days.
This incident has got an awful lot of attention. Do you think it will take away some of the hatred the general public have for cyclists and redirect it at joggers?
I hope so. Before they kill us all. You can barely move for shallow graves out here already. It's like a zombie apocalypse in Lycra
[quote=Stoner said]BBC news website seems all over the place with this story. Initially it said a 41yr old man had been arrested in Chelsea and then held in custody. Now it's a 50yr old man who was held at his home and then released.
I noticed that too. When they originally mentioned a 40yr old I was surprised. The bloke looks my age i.e 50-ish
Disclaimer: I am not a jogger and have never jogged over whatever Londinium bridge said event occurred on.
Not clear from your post - Who is doing the killing? The general public, the joggers or the cyclists? Would like to know before I go out with the dog tonight.
Has anyone ever seen a happy jogger?One who looks like they're actually enjoying the experience?
Nope. Very similar to roadies in that regard. Always look very serious or angry. Perhaps they should skip rather than jog?
I noticed that too. When they originally mentioned a 40yr old I was surprised. The bloke looks my age i.e 50-ish
Lesser known side effect of jogging. The incident occurred back in May. Three months of jogging can easily age you ten years.
Fell runners. They're all serial killers. More urban joggers may make do with merely maiming people, but they all share the same psychotic DNA
I reckon it's joggers who kick the wing mirrors off cars too. Then they point the finger at hoody scrotes
Let's just face up to the facts. People who go running are inherently evil
Ever seen a jogger give to charity or help an old lady across the road? No, I didn't think so.
Let's just face up to the facts. People who go running are inherently evil
They are the root cause of all the evils in this world. Jimmy Savillle liked jogging, just saying.
I believe Ming the merciless enjoyed running
Hitler? Vegetarian jogger
A jogger told me off for riding some cheek this evening. He had a nice bumbag though. So I smiled and ignored him.
I blame Strava.
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Has anyone ever seen a happy jogger?
I always used to run with a smile on my face.
I genuinely loved it. Injuries, non-running mostly, forcing me stop pisses me off most days.
Me. Happy. Today. Having run to the top of a hill.
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I mean, why wouldn't I be?
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Is that Binners under that pile of stones in the second pic?
But we're all asking ourselves the same question...
Now that he's disposed of that body, when will he kill again?
Has anyone ever seen a happy jogger?
Currently enjoying a week of Spanish sun. Theres a beachside pavement and cycle path that is rammed with happy runners and cyclist.
Even my fourteen year old daughter said "god we are so behind in the the UK"
Me. Happy. Today. Having run to the top of a hill.
You'd have been happier if you'd ridden your bike up it and then down again though.
He was late to the pub, had a flat tyre and no change for the bus......there is no other rational explanation for running anywhere......ever.
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Me. Happy. Today. Having run to the top of a hill.
You'd have been happier if you'd ridden your bike up it and then down again though.
Not necessarily. And anyway, a good portion of the summit involved shoulder-height bracken, heather, broom and juniper. Not really the place for a bike.
Is that Binners under that pile of stones in the second pic?
Nah, that's Jamba, that is...
#jambafact
😯Not really the place for a bike.
Okay then. You'd have had more fun taking a leisurely stroll up that hill 😉
All very amusing on this thread however if someone had done similar piss taking on a car v cyclist thread it would have led to the people making jokes about it getting life time bans and lots of abuse.
Hypercrits the lot of you 🙄
"god we are so behind in the the UK"
Get yourselves down to sunny Southend-on-Sea.
They have mile markers along the prom so you know how far you've run/walked and it also has a cycle path along it's length.
All very amusing on this thread however if someone had done similar piss taking on a car v cyclist thread it would have led to the people making jokes about it getting life time bans and lots of abuse.Hypercrits the lot of you
Because of course dozens of people have been killed by joggers...
Because of course dozens of people have been killed by joggers...
No, but they do kill raccoon's
All very amusing on this thread however if someone had done similar piss taking on a car v cyclist thread it would have led to the people making jokes about it getting life time bans and lots of abuse.Hypercrits the lot of you
If I lent you a straw could you go and suck the fun out of someone else's day :D?
All very amusing on this thread however if someone had done similar piss taking on a car v cyclist thread it would have led to the people making jokes about it getting life time bans and lots of abuse
To be fair, it was almost all piss taking on my recent car vs cyclist thread, so they're not hypocrites at least 🙂
No, but they do kill raccoon's
That's a weird read - things like...
Borch remembers looking back once to see if the raccoon had started chasing her again.“It felt like [Stephen King’s] ‘Pet Sematary,’” she said.
and...
The dead raccoon was retrieved by Borch’s dad, who packed it into a Taste of the Wild dog food bag
🙂
What an investment banker!
(Hoping rhyming slang isn't considered swear filter avoidance....!)
😀
It's not all bash n barge along the embankment.
Just back from a lunch time "run" and was overtaken by the Polska mens speed walking team.
As they wiggled past I had a nice chat with them. They told me their race was on sunday and I wished them good luck. They asked me what I was training for and they were kindly impressed when I told them I was recovering from a 100 mile ultra.
Three blonde fellas... give them a cheer if you happen to turn the TV over and catch the race.... blooming nice chaps they were
The Japanese speed walking team were out practicing around Bushy Park this morning when I passed though on my commute at about 0645. I gave them a "konichiwa" and got a nice smile and response in Japanese from most of them.
Maybe all speed walkers are happy and cheery.
[url= http://www.iaafworldchampionships.com/racewalks# ]World Championships race walking this Sunday[/url]
training for this?
Yes.
Being in the US might be considered to be quite a good alibi...
Wonder how many people had named him on social media and are now going to look at what they said...
I've never looked on Twitter before, but the opening statement appears to say they arrested 1/3 of him 😯
Maybe the jogger is his evil third?
I'm surprised that they can't trace his complete run from the cctv and find out where he set out from and where he ended up.................