[Closed] Wills and Kate

Actually I had thought about that metalheart when DrJ posted the first comment. What does it say about Her Majesty....is his/her real name Loretta ?

Time to re-post this I reckon

I went shopping in Woolies not long ago.

Not in the United Kingdom which is ruled by Her Majesty you didn't.

My wife used to work on the sweet counter in Woolies and is better dressed than either of those two.

So you think DrP should think of a better term of abuse ? What would you suggest ?

The UK is still class based

What?

The pointless witterings on here about two pretty but fairly plain young ladies just go to show how linked to the cult of celebrity these days. Princess Anne may want to gas badgers but at least she doesnt rely on her looks to get in the papers.

So what?

Both do a good job, what have looks got to do with it anyway?

Good job? What job?
Whats looks got to do with it? Well look at the witterings above, the riyals need to be in the papers and need to go on tours to keep up support. If Kate looked like a pig she wouldnt be in the papers as much.

Which would make me less miserable....maybe

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And they do look like girls on the Woolies sweet counter, Madame no doubt looked like that when she worked there and conformed to the dress code. She's still the same dress size, I'll have to ask her if she still has the dresses in the wardrobe at her mum's place.

..... just go to show how linked to the cult of celebrity these days.

So let's have a revolution and declare Britain as a republic to get rid of "the cult of celebrity" ?

Self-declared republic, France, has no such problems

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Nor does monarchy free United States

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I misread your post then AA, I thought you were saying that (at least) Anne didn't need to rely on her looks. Obviously looks are important to you - hence the pig comment - so the whole point seems pointless.

Good job? What job?

No smiley?

Ernie you are just proving my point for me well done.

Not sure what your post proves Edukator. As in all countries some people are rich and influential, some are not. I'm not aware of any legislation based on this though.

You've lost me THM? What are you trying to say?

I assume the "Woolies checkout girls" comment was intended as an insult. You obviously don't believe that everyone is "created equal" after all.

The [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Constitution ]British constitution[/url] would be a good point to start your reading then, Molgrips.

Then continue with [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason_in_the_United_Kingdom ]treason law[/url]

So if you get seduced by Kate you face life in prison.

That you sound confused

Nearly took the kids to see them at Taronga zoo today but went for a ride instead. Glad I didnt as the crowds were so big they shut the zoo and traffic was chaos that way for hours.
Woolworths still alive and doing very very well down here.

anagallis_arvensis - Member
Ernie you are just proving my point for me well done.

I thought your point was that you are oppressed and subjugated on a daily basis.......how am I proving your point ?

Only confused by you THM, could you explain what point you are trying to make?
Mine is simply that the royals are just media whore celebs these days.

Care to explain how I am not opressed and subjugated?

Mine is simply that the royals are just media whore celebs these days.

And that republics have no such problem ?

I think I agree with THM on this one .....you sound a little confused.

I didnt say the last bit you just made up though did I?
Keep trying.

anagallis_arvensis - Member
Care to explain how I am not opressed and subjugated?

Well no, you obviously are.

Hope the oppression and subjugation isn't too heavy for you today.

I blame the Normans.

AA are you free to live and work where you want. Can you marry who you want to? Can you save on spend your money as you choose? Do you have freedom of speech, religion, expression, will etc.? I'm guessing you answer yes to all those so what exactly is a monarchy stopping you from doing?

a_a, you can't seriously be trying to convince anyone you're oppressed can you? (I'm not having a cheap pop at you like some of the others here btw.) I agree with you that the concept of royalty is bollocks in a modern society where the concept of all "men" being born equal is accepted by the majority.

Of course, not being a subject of the monarch, the feeling of deference to the superiority of someone by virtue of who's fanny he or she popped out of, as thm, Zulu and others display, is foreign to me, but I just asked mrs deadly who is a subject, and to be fair, she doesn't appear to feel oppressed...only by me sometimes. 🙂

I'd hate to be born into royalty - looks like a pretty shit job to me - even with the fringe benefits.

Can you save on spend your money as you choose?

There isn't an opt-out clause when paying tax that funds the royal family.

Freedom of speech is limited where the royals are concerned "adhering to the sovereign's enemies".

The head of the protestant church is the Queen which somewhat limits a protestant's freedom of speech.

Nobody is free to live and work where they want. You can live somewhere you can afford to rent/buy and pay the taxes. You may then work there if your chosen work is deemed legal.

The level of oppression is obviously low but its still there according to the oxford english definition. The queen is the unelected head of state. Her unelected son has spent years writing letters to ministers about what we dont know and having an influence we dont know. Even thos trying to prevent the publication state it calls into question his impartiality and would cause a constitutional crisis if released.
Thats oppression.

Or taxes that fund anything or do republics have a pay what you want taxation policy?
Your freedom of speech example is about the same as being Edward snowdon.
At no point is the head of a church preventing free speech.
Again the live where you want is the same in every Republic so how are the monarchy the problem here?

The head of the protestant church is the Queen which somewhat limits a protestant's freedom of speech.

Some people need to find out the meaning of the word oppression

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Edukator, are you aware that old laws do not necessarily apply any more? I would not be prosecuted for treason if I were seduced by a royal (it has happened to other people afaik) nor would I be prosecuted for speaking ill of the royals.

Let me demonstrate: the royal family are a bunch of idiots.

Thats oppression.

No, it's not

Very black and white ernie. Have a nice day.

Treason laws have been modified but still stand, Molgrips. It came close with Lady Di.

Are those photos from modern crusades led by her Majesty's government, Ernie? With the much vaunted participation of the royal family.

It certainly could be argued that by having to pay tax to fund the monarchy, there is a fundamental degree of slavery in our working lives, albeit minor, however:

Ernie has a point, when it comes to oppression, there are plenty of places in the world where people suffer far more than we do.

Being as Palestine was a British Mandate, under whose authority was Israel formed again?

And who rules over the British forces that continue drone strikes after invading resource rich countries under false pretenses?

Back to domestic oppression, who presides over the murky dealings of GCHQ?

It's that black and white A-A. Claims that this represents oppression : "The head of the protestant church is the Queen which somewhat limits a protestant's freedom of speech" are clearly bollox.

I would wish you a nice day too but it would be insensitive of me as you've informed me that you are oppressed on a daily basis.

Try and make the best of it though eh ?

A song they used to sing in the NAAFI bar in Germany:

A sold', a sold', a soldier I will be
Two pist', two pist', two pistols on my knee
F'king, f'king, f' king and country
We fight for the old count', fight for the old count', fight for the old country.

Are those photos from modern crusades led by her Majesty's government, Ernie? With the much vaunted participation of the royal family.

It's Palestine. Although when Her Majesty has a bit of spare time from oppressing A-A she does like to oppress other people throughout the world.

Of course your French government wouldn't dream of doing such as a thing as France doesn't have a monarchy, would it ?

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So anyway, are the monarchy actually British enough to stir fierce patriotic impulses?

What happened to the real family name of Saxe Coburg Gotha?

Saxe Coburg Gotha was Jimmy Savile's real name.

Saxe Coburg Gotha was Jimmy Savile's real name.

I heard Mountbatten (another name changer) had something to do with it, hence why Savile and our Royal and glorious leaders were big mates since 1966

France in a crusade, no of course not. A bit of peace keeping now and then, drawing a line in the sand to stop an army about to attack a city. With the exception of France's contribution in Afghanistan I haven't had a problem with use of French armed force since I've been here.

Dominique de Villepin's prophetic speech at the UN and Jacques Chirac's refusal to join in with Bush's fulfillment of biblical prophecies have pleased me.

Yes of course, France has never been involved in imperialist wars ever since it overthrew the monarchy.

.....Jacques Chirac's refusal to join in with Bush's fulfillment of biblical prophecies have pleased me.

Is that George Bush king of America that you speak of ?

BTW Jacques Chirac fought in France's bloody Algerian War.

I just drove past Buckingham Palace. Loads of oppressed and subjugated people outside the place. In the rain as well.

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/william-goes-into-tyrant-mode-2014041785833 ]It's happening.[/url]

Have a nice day.

Indeed, a blessed Easter to all.....

I just drove past Buckingham Palace. Loads of oppressed and subjugated people outside the place. In the rain as well.

How many of the people who pay for it's upkeep were inside the palace?

I haven't been in Downing Street, but can live with the fact....

I wonder what the night rates at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave are?