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We currently live in Baildon and plan to move to a place where it is convenient for commuting to south and also to leeds. We have been viewing properties for months and prefer to have one with decent size garden and most importantly, good school nearby is required. Lots of house in "popular" location have been viewed,such as Ilkley,Skiption,bingley,Hebden,Sowerby,brighouse. Surprisingly,the houses are all small and comes with small garden.

Therefore, we begin to seek houses in the countryside of Wakefiled,for example,Sandal, Walton and part of Crigglestone.
I would say that in some places the view is far more better, however,the house price is much lower than those so-called "popular" villages,at least it is affordable to get a decent size semi-detached house with good size garden and excellent school. What's more,there are lots of trails so riding and hiking seems to be much easier.

Thus,my question is why the house price around Wakefiled is much cheaper ?


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 10:39 am
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I cant comment on house prices as its been 45 yrs since i lived there, but Walton is famous as my birthplace 🙂

I think the whole area has steadily declined since I left.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 10:50 am
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three words...location, location, location!


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 10:52 am
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No Greggs within a 2 minute waddle ?


 
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Posted : 17/04/2014 10:54 am
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Wakefiled
Wakefiled
Wakefiled

House prices are 20% cheaper for those who don't make habitual spelling mistakes!! 😉
I think rockape63 has it, but as a local I think this is legacy issue these days. Bit of taking the rough with the smooth, but overall I've no burning desire to leave. That being said, if you were teleported to the middle of the Westgate run on a Friday night you'd probably not consider coming back for a millennia or two.
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Posted : 17/04/2014 11:02 am
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I also check the crime rate in police website around Sandal and Walton in wakefield(Thanks for pointing out the spelling)..it is even much lower than ilkley....

So...still can't figure it out why the price itself is much lower!

Anything else i miss....?


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 11:51 am
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hi rogermoore,what's the legacy issue in question ?


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 11:53 am
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South of Leeds / Bradford isn't as desirable as north of, simples.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 11:55 am
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I am from wakefield, I live 10 miles away now.
the center is run down, there are some nice places on the outskirts,
sandal
crofton
Walton
horbury
ossett

but steer clear of anywhere within a couple of miles of the town center.
eastmoor
lupset
Portobello
Darnley
peacock
agbrigg

not nice places.
there are a load of imigrants in wakefield now...good or bad, you decide.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 11:56 am
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Because Wakefield as an area is a much less desirable place to live than most places in yorkshire. The city its self is run down and quite frankly not very nice.the areas you talk of are on the out skirts but not far enough out to be away from the city, and the motor way is very close which means traffic can be an issue.

there is no reason it shouldn't be similar prices except location and the fact is its one of the less desirable places to live. (I live about 10mins away)


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 11:58 am
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Have a good look on the EA flood maps. Fair amount of flooding Wakefield way.

Have you considered the other side of the M1, Mirfield/Huddersfield area.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 11:58 am
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Basically it Wakefield is not Leeds, so house prices are generally cheaper.

Only you can decide whether it is worth the money to live in an LS postcode or not.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 11:59 am
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The 'location, location, location' thing. Wakefield has been seen to be as a place of decline for number years - pit closures, lack of general economic growth, social issues etc. I've lived on the outskirts all my life and never really seen it as a problem. I've lived away in other places in the south for periods of time and I never really saw things which made me think where I came from was a 'bad' place.

I'm not trying to make out is it some kind of secret haven or anything - some areas are still pretty rank and there are some neds around too. But is this any different from elsewhere? IMHO not really...

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SO you want to move from a place that has some of the bestest riding on your doorstep in England to a sh!t hole and your wondering why its cheaper 😯

I'm not convinced the riding around Wakey will be anything like the same league as on your current doorstep !

Where abouts are you commuting to?


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:04 pm
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the riding around wakefield is rubbish. 30yrs offroading has led me to this thinking.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:06 pm
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No but the riding about 30 mins away in the peaks is ment to be great.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:07 pm
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Always thought of Wakey as abit of a grey area. Good links to motorway etc but not really somewhere you'd go to/choose to visit.


 
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good luck getting anywhere in the peak district within 30mins from Wakefield.

never mind somewhere 'great'...

(north Leeds on the other hand = loads of peachy singletrack)


 
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No but the riding about 30 mins away in the peaks is ment to be great.

Is that in ones private helicopter that you bought because all the houses are cheaper?

Where are you commuting to OP? I can see that Baildon to South Leeds / M1 south is a complete ball ache, I used to do it. But at least you are returning home some where nice every night where you can escape on to quiet open moor land.

Rather than living in Wakey where to would have to drive / fly 30 mins to get to the nearest decent trails 😆


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:18 pm
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I reckon I could be at langsett in 30mins at a push.


 
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Wakefield suffers from being not leeds and so bad even the local council moved out of the centre of the city.

I am from Ossett originally which I loved my family are still there. I live in Leeds and have lived in Stanley and Lofthouse areas of Wakefield.

I don't think I would chose to move back to Wakefield.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:22 pm
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Always thought of Wakey as abit of a grey area.
Just checked out of the window hora and it is definitely grey today. 🙂

From where I am, Langsett Barn car part is about 30 mins away for the start of Cut Gate path. Good enough?

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It's not as fashionable. There are good bits and bad bits like anywhere else, because of it's size and population the good bits are closer to the bad bits.


 
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My mate lived in Walton and now Sandal. Seems like a great place to live. That said, I know Wakey town centre a bit and its an absolute a-hole of a place that doesn't seem to show signs of getting any better. Doesn't matter though when you've got steady biking from the door, supermarket on the doorstep and 15 minutes train into Leeds/30 mins drive to Sheffield centre etc.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:32 pm
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I can't believe that on Rightmove there's 20 pages of 3 bed+ houses under £100k within 3 miles of Wakefield.
** sighs **


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:35 pm
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I would like to add....I was born and raised on lupset estate.
steer well clear........... 😆

aP, houses in certain areas can be had for as little as 40k


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:37 pm
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there are a load of imigrants in wakefield now...good or bad, you decide.

Lot less Yorkshire folk, can only be a good thing...

Simple fact is less people want to live there. Having tried to head out along the m62 a few times on Friday evenings I don't rate your chances of the Peak in 30mins.


 
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...Good enough?

in my humble opinion? - not really.

1) it's the wrong end of cut gate.
2) cut gate's MASSIVELY over-rated (it's only fun for 2 weeks of the year - for the novelty of riding through a dried out bog)
3) there's nothing else for miles.

While i'm sure it's possible to enjoy riding over cut gate and back, every weekend, in all weathers; you'd have to be fairly sadistic to sell Wakefield to a mtb'er by claiming there was 'great riding, in the peak, just 30mins drive away'.

don't let me put anyone off, but maybe let me make a suggestion that's a variation on a theme... how about Thurgoland or Penistone*? (stop s****ing, it really is spelt like that)

under-rated little towns, in some lovely countryside, with some great riding within [u]riding[/u] distance.

(s'just a quick pootle into the North end of Wharnecliff)

(*check out the Penistone Paramount, the best cinema in the world)


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:41 pm
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I dont live in wakey so thats that out of the way.

Im from Barnsley living in Huddersfield, previously Brighouse and the Mrs previously Sowerby bridge.

Brighouse has abnormally high prices near the town centre for some reason. I used to live there and you can easily save 10%+ my moving a mile away. It does have whats known as the Leeds effect. Basically as a commuter village for Leeds its got high prices. Marsh and Lindley in hudds also seem to have this reputation and as such prices are higher there.

Wakey is a world away from all the places you listed due to lack of development over the years. You could argue that its due some money soon so it would be a good buy but go for a drive around and youll see the difference.

The M62 has a massive part to play in house prices up here and depending on your point of view it is both good and bad. Commuting to and from Leeds from brighouse you can easily find yourself sat for 40 mins in traffic if your not careful. However outside of rushour (and so long as no one kills themselves) it allows you very quick access to Leeds and Manchester.

The majority of houses you will view are typical of the syle of housing in the area. The big houses command high prices unfortunately and some folks are wanting daft money for them as we recently found out. Good look with your viewings.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 12:44 pm
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I was watching that new estate agent programme on the telly, as well as the "How to get a council house" one. Prices are getting very silly in a lot of places.

If you want to commute to Leeds and to the south, Doncaster is better and cheaper. Even less going for it as a town than Wakey, though. How about my mate's mum's old house, overlooking the field and walking distance to the station, 5 bed detached for £295k?
[url= http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-43670294.html?premiumA=true ]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-43670294.html?premiumA=true[/url]

Or if you're strapped for cash, three beds and a two storey mancave for £55k
[url= http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-45142511.html ]http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-45142511.html[/url]


 
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ahwiles - fair points mate and as you say there are some good bases a small distance away if were looking for a really great base you could ride from your doorstep on.

RM.


 
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Got to disagree with some of this

Moved to wakefield about 11 years ago where we had a nice barn conversion in newmillerdam which is a really nice area - as is sandal etc

We then needed something bigger and bought a 5 bed semi in St Johns about 7 years ago - st johns is pretty close to the city centre but we have not had one bit of trouble in all the time we've been there. Great neighbours and our daughter goes to what is one of the best schools in west yorkshire.

The city has changed massively since we moved there - we have seen huge investment in the centre.
A new shopping centre was opened a year or 2 back. The hepworth gallery also opened around the same time.
This year has seen a new library and massive development of the area around the college and courts.
The new westgate train station has also just been completed and there are projects going on to tidy up the centre all the time. The fountains at the bottom of westgate etc (was really funny when the local yoof put washing up liquid in it not long after opening)

There is a lot of money being invested in wakefield, which is great because for years it did suffer as the very poor relation to leeds.

I am sure there is still a long way to go but it seems to be working.

I commute to leeds every day by car which takes me 20 mins - though it can sometimes get a bit sticky on the way home at the moment due to upgrading the motorway to a smart motorway (whatever that is)

One point i do agree on is - the riding is shite. But sling the bike on the car and off you go. York is half an hour away - sheffield 20 mins

Got to admit i dont really know the areas mentioned by others but there are holes in every city if you look for them.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 2:35 pm
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South of Leeds has always (well in the last 25 years) been cheaper than North of Leeds, and Wakefield is well south of Leeds 🙂

I use to work for Diamond, those that are from Wakefield will know who they were - one of the largest employers, and no more.

We eventually bought on the outskirts of Morley and even in the late 80's it was half the price of north Leeds.

Can't imagine much has changed.


 
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South of Leeds has always (well in the last 25 years) been cheaper than North of Leeds, and Wakefield is well south of Leeds

but it seems that it can't explain why sowerby bridge,hebden bridge and some areas of greetland in halifax and some good location in Mirfield are bit more expensive than Walton and Sandal which have nicer view...

hebden Bridge: be well known for its flooding areas and traffic congestion during rush hour


 
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I live in Wakefield too, although the town centre is rubbish, and I personally think it is in decline even though money has been spent on the mentioned upgrades. However most town centres of similar size are.

The villages further away from the centre are better, and they do fade out into some nice countryside really, particularly towards the south-ish?

It's all about the location though, I would also add there is probably a bit of a sterotype to the types of house in hebden bridge(Almost Country/Rural Cottage type) as compared to Sandal ("Newer" build housing estate).

I would say that you can drive easily to a number of decent riding within an hour easily. (Out of rush hour obviously).


 
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I used to rent in Robin Hood, half way between Wakefield and Leeds
It was quite nice there, Rothwell down the road was a decent enough place in terms of facilities
Access to M1 and M62 was easy
Only went out of an evening in Wakefield once though, it's never forgotten


 
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hebden Bridge: be well known for its flooding areas and traffic congestion during rush hour

You can buy a 3 bed house with a garden in Mytholmroyd for not a lot. One thing we realised though is that there just aren't loads of houses full stop round here. If you have specific criteria like decent garden/garage etc there's really not that many.

Congestion has never been a problem for me - and we don't live in a flood risk area.

And I have to say, being able to drive to good (or in the case of the Peak district, average 😉 ) riding is nowhere near as good as having great riding from the door.


 
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Prices will be cheaper due to less demand - everyone wants to live somewhere else and good luck to them.

Sandal and Walton are nice places to live, close to countryside and walks, though a lot of it is flattish, not ideal for MTB. You need to make the best of what you have and there are some ok trails about - a lot of it is cheeky though.

As for commuting I wouldn't want to be driving North into Leeds on the M1 after 7.30am - slow traffic normally back past J39. You can get trains in from Agbrigg though. *Avoid anything described as 'lower Sandal' - it's Agbrigg.

As for the city centre - I don't think it's as bad as has been made out but you need to make that judgement for yourself.

Grum makes a great point about local riding though.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 5:48 pm
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Wakefield is a city?


 
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Wakefield is a city?

Yes it has a Cathedral, so that makes it a City. Apparently.


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 6:03 pm
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Today, I notice some council houses in Sandal & Walton. Are they all privately owned ?


 
Posted : 17/04/2014 7:16 pm
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Where in sandal?


 
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Where in sandal?

School lane;pretty close to the boundary of sandal...


 
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School Lane is Walton I believe. Haven't lived in Walton so I can't help.


 
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Im not far from there and dont think school lane has any ex LA property mostly big detached with a few 1970s developer semis. We looked there but ended up in Sandal. Its a good place to be, into city if necessary* dead quick, countryside is open and mostly 'clean and tidy' it might have been said offroad is a bit meh! same old same old routes, railway and TPT stuff. Using road bikes more now out to emley and windmills in sunshine yesterday 8) . No idea on current house values average?
* can usually find reason not to go it is sh!t. but i dont like city centres anywhere.


 
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Hebden is a utopian paradise for champagne socialist's and drug addicts, of course it's more expensive


 
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never realised there are some many singletrack people around Sandal


 
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Hebden is a utopian paradise for champagne socialist's and drug addicts

Hi. 🙂


 
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Wakefield is into red brick country, horrid building material and prices to match I expect. I was born in Wakey and lived in Ackworth in my early childhood. I always hate going back, the predominant red brick houses are just depressing and ugly. There are some nice bits, but you're always only just a few miles or metres away from ugly depressing red brick streets and structures. I've live near Baildon most of my childhood and adult life btw, don't do it.


 
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@bernard with such riding as there is round here we have to come on here to read/fantasize about proper hardcore stuff ! 😆
John
special sandal double/triple track rail/canal edition?


 
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i've been known to put commuting tyres on to ride nmd, make the mud more of a challenge


 
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@bernard and @jag61
Where abouts around Wakefield do you tend to ride?
(I'm hoping I have missed something!)


 
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We currently live in Baildon

I read that as Basildon. I thought that's a hell of a commute.


 
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Wakefield is into red brick country, horrid building material and prices to match I expect.There are some nice bits, but you're always only just a few miles or metres away from ugly depressing red brick streets and structures. I've live near Baildon most of my childhood and adult life btw, don't do it.
One of the major reasons we'd like to move out of Baildon is the traffic congestion where Baildon road and Otley road intersect and also I must pass through Bradford's city center or driver along canal road in order to reach M62. In average, if i plan to use M62,i would say i have to deduct around 30-40 minutes from the time spent along the whole journey.

http://travel.uk.msn.com/photos/the-worst-places-to-live-in-britain?page=10


 
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BTW,I met a parade on the way to M62 through Bradford last week,full of Indian or ****stan,blocking the traffic for around 30 minutes...it is a nightmare!

Do loads of Indian and ****stan live around the rural area of Wakefield ?


 
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Bernard / mark - see http://badbrainsmbc.com/ for regular night rides. There's a BB few lurkers on STW.

Kiki - there's two mainly Asian areas Agbrigg and just outside the town centre. As for local authority housing there's loads everywhere around the city but two small estates in Walton and Portobello is just before you get to Sandal going out on the A61.


 
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Kikigood - I live in Baildon, grew up & school in Wakey. I commute to Darton. I would not swap Baildon for anywhere, especially not in ye merrie towne. You might one day change jobs where you need to get to the north of Leeds/Bradford.

tbh the M62 is waaaay better now than it was say 2 years ago


 
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The parade through Bradford was Vaisakhi, the Sikh holiday. Not a regular occurrence


 
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We viewed several nice houses in Crigglestone. Is Crigglestone considered as the good area comparing with Sandal&Walton ?


 
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No it's not. Nothing that much wrong with it but nothing special plus look at google maps - a lot of it is pretty close to the M1 and the noise carries.


 
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Sounds like you're about to snap up a bargain.


 
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