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And you got money back when you returned the bottle?
It was all fields back then 😉 You are not that far out tbh
Isn't Coca~Cola made under licence in each country?
I assumed this having drunk it in arabic countries with arabic writing on it
Well done all for resisting google and having a guess
Well done all for resisting google and having a guess
I did research it actualy, but it just says 95% made in the UK and the taste is tailored to local markets, whether that's the taste or just what they can lay their hands on cheeply is another matter.
Thomthumb....i'm no more qualified than anybody else to discuss this issue, i've read loads of stuff on weight loss (and weight gain) when i lifted weights throughout my 20s.....a couple of my friends still bodybuild and as a group they are the experts at managing their weight and appearance....just google images a bodybuilding competition and look at the ridiculously low body fat levels they walk on stage at....its mind blowing.
Whats even more impressive is that most of them only start dieting around 16 weeks out from a show....they use the time honoured understanding that eating less calories than they need will result in fat loss.....i remain sceptical about any other method, other methods seem to be for people who say they want to lose weight but cant really be arsed to put in the hard work of endless bland meals and daily workouts.
In the last 4 years i've been 15 1/2 stone when i was a gym monkey, down to 12 stone in less than a year when i took up kickboxing instead....back up to 15 stone (of fat) when i stopped all training and spent most evenings indoors with a new girlfriend being wined and dined very well!....and now back to around 13 1/2 stone with weekly cycling and squash....
....i tweek my diet here and there, off on holiday at the end of July so i cut all the muck from my diet a few weeks ago and already my forearms are more vascular than they were a fortnight ago....its boring obviously, i really want some cheesecake or ice cream or a massive great Snickers bar....went out for dinner last night and ordered a chicken and avocado salad as my main course instead of my usual calorie laden choices....i'll probably be 12 stone something on holiday and nice and lean.
Frankly i'm shocked people think any other method works.
....the diet industry appears to a license to print money, i can feel a career change looming!
I bet there's no HCFS in Irn Bru!!
They also put more bubbles in Spanish Coca~Cola (or is it less?). I can't remember but do know it's different. 😕
google? what do you take us for? cheaters?!?!
i'm going to use my hard earned 'ive been on the the tea-cups at chessington world of adventures' certificate as evidence that i know what i'm talking about when i say that its definitely all made in america and shipped around the world hidden in other food stuffs. them damn sneaky yanks.
Frankly i'm shocked people think any other method works.....the diet industry appears to a license to print money, i can feel a career change looming!
Eating low GI (which i***e is just a more extreme version of as far as I can see) has nothing to do with the 'diet industry', is recommended by health professionals, and I'll repeat yet again that it works much better for many (most?) people than a simplistic calorie/fat focussed approach.
Definitely working for me at the moment.
I believe Coke make their special syrup for the EU in Ireland and it's then watered down, carbonated and bottled/canned in more local plants.
If you really want to hate the Coca-Cola company, read Mark Thomas' book Belching Out The Devil.
other methods seem to be for people who say they want to lose weight but cant really be arsed to put in the hard work of endless bland meals and daily workouts
I'm eating large, delicious, tasty meals and getting by on my daily half hour of gentle bike ride to work and back. But, your way sounds ace 🙂
My food is making me fat because I'm a greedy sod and I don't do enough riding to burn it off these days. 😉
I'm eating large, delicious, tasty meals and getting by on my daily half hour of gentle bike ride to work and back. But, your way sounds ace
Yeah, eating the delicious sausage and butterbean casserole I made last night again for tea is a real chore.
Grum, low GI is a given...people should be getting their carbs from low GI sources anyway, high glycemic index foods are for pre workout boosts and post workout recovery.....i dread to think what the peaks and troughs of somebody's energy levels must be like if they spend their day eating high GI foods for energy!
I'm eating large, delicious, tasty meals and getting by on my daily half hour of gentle bike ride to work and back. But, your way sounds ace
But you always did didn't you? pre iDave
TBH some of the links you've posted for lunch recipes have been neither large nor had me thinking they'd be delicious IMO.
I tried the idave for 4 weeks and it was pretty much the same as any other concious calorie reduction programme - which it is. I lost weight but that was just because it restricts a lot of high calorie food.
I went back to a 'normal' eating regime as I missed bread and beer and dairy too much [can't stand red wine] and for what I'm eating Vs what I'm exercising, I'm losing at the same rate.
But you always did didn't you? pre iDave
I was about 75kg pre-iDave. 32" waist jeans were a bit snug and I often bought 34". I was by no means fat, but I had no visible abs and my arms weren't particularly vascular.
After 6 (7?) weeks of iDave, I'm about 68kg. My 32" waist jeans are very loose and I've got something approaching a 4-pack and veiny arms.
As I've said, I'm not particularly doing it to lose weight, but because I feel better eating this way. I started by having slow-carb breakfasts as that fitted in well with when my wife was doing Slimming World and I realised how much better I felt all morning at work. I started having more slow-carb lunches and then went the whole hog 6 or 7 weeks ago.
I have various allergies (asthma and hay fever) that have been loads better than I'd have expected these last few weeks, which may just be a coincidence with the odd weather we've been having. Possibly I have a slight gluten allergy too?
What sold me was the first big bike ride I did. I'd have been knackered afterwards normally, but was absolutely fine and repeated it, but faster, a week later. Again, could be a coincidence, but it seems to work for me.
TBH some of the links you've posted for lunch recipes have been neither large nor had me thinking they'd be delicious IMO.
Those are just ideas/inspiration, not exactly what I've been eating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ReLQJRicys&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-grhTGQbyMg&feature=relmfu
I lost weight but that was just because it restricts a lot of high calorie foods that I prefer to eat, like bread & beer
I lost weight but that was just because it restricts [s]a lot of high calorie food[/s] blood sugar spikes
Do you realise how many 'calories' there are in meat/beans/pulses/houmous/etc?
poor slimjim, he's posted one days food! i wouldn't judge a diet based on a one day sample unless he's eating the same every daymore hummus SJ
just polished off half a tub with a stick of celery, and a big gob full of wasabi peas
Im surprised. I thought a days food consisting essentially of
chicken
salad leaves
mixed vegetables
tuna
raisins (not quite so good yet not exactly evil)
wheat (not quite so good)
black tea
water
wouldn't be frowned upon?
in fact, are you guys serious?
start dieting around 16 weeks out from a show....they use the time honoured understanding that eating less calories than they need will result in fat loss
Do come on now. You are saying that bodybuilders cut up just by reducing calories. 😆
I think you'll find they heavily reduce carb intake.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=4271246&page=1
"Study: Artificial Sweeteners Increase Weight Gain Odds
Calorie-conscious consumers who opt for diet sodas may gain more weight than if they drank sugary drinks because of artificial sweeteners contained in the diet sodas, according to a new study."
It gets more like Womens Weekly in here every week...
Lardy middle aged leisure cyclists arguing about diets; has it really sunk as low as this?
am not middle aged.
am interested in nutrition facts. and going REALLY fast on a bike.
I'm not middle aged or lardy.
I'm 35 and skinny 🙂
Today's menu
Breakfast: two slices prosciutto, two soft boiled eggs, home-made baked beans (with added lentils, chorizo, red pepper, red wine and chilli flakes).
Dinner: a Sainsburys salad bowl, plus a 100g pack of roast turkey and a tub of four bean salad.
Tea: a plate full of green beans, broccoli and carrots, with a hefty portion of mince and onions and gravy over the top.
No idea on calories, apart from lunch which was the only thing that came in packets and as we'd been discussing it here I checked. That was 600 kcal.
in fact, are you guys serious?
Well, to me:
Breakfast - several cups of black tea - [b]basically not eating breakfast, not a great start to the day and likely to make you hungry - better to eat smaller meals more often[/b]
Lunch - tinned tuna, salad, loads of garden peas - [b]good[/b]
Snack - white choccie biscuit from spain (damned colleagues) - [b]bad[/b]
Pre Ride hunger snack - cashew nuts, 2x chicken drumsticks, several salami slices - [b]ok[/b]
Post ride meal - big bowl of Raisin Wheats with whole milk (a moment of weakness, but they were very nice none the less) - [b]not too bad but the raisins are full of sugar[/b]
To me it doesn't really look like enough to eat in a day if you are doing exercise, but I suppose you are trying to lose weight. I just wonder if it is sustainable.
It's not terrible by any means but some more veg would be good - much better to replace the wheat with beans/pulses to get a bit of carbs imo.
It gets more like Womens Weekly in here every week...Lardy middle aged leisure cyclists arguing about diets; has it really sunk as low as this?
Judging by your posting history you come on a mountain bike forum just to talk about road cycling, tv programmes and hilariously expensive jerseys - has it really sunk as low as this?
[u]nonsense[/u], a bit of fasting does you good, it was simply a 3 hour fasting extension added to my sleep.basically not eating breakfast, not a great start to the day and likely to make you hungry - better to eat smaller meals more often
Plus, I wasn't hungry. I no longer get hunger cravings as I no longer eat refined sugars/carbs - try Atkins for a couple weeks and feel your hunger disappear, you'll soon learn about what exactly it is you are craving! SUGAR!
already acknowledged, although, a small amount of simple carbs does no harm when training hard. my 20mph average 12 mile ride thanked me for the biscuitwhite choccie biscuit from spain (damned colleagues) - bad
im aware of that, but it was my first bowl of cereal in months, and was a treat - made up for it today by being awesome on my bike & swimming..big bowl of Raisin Wheats with whole milk (a moment of weakness, but they were very nice none the less) - not too bad but the raisins are full of sugar
Do you realise how many 'calories' there are in meat/beans/pulses/houmous/etc?
Not as many as in a lot of other stuff
Why does idave restrict fatty meat and restrict nuts to small quantities?
Drastically reducing carbs will pretty much always drastically reduce calories
Back to back test, the idave and a conventional diet have produced very similar results for me, because they both reduce calories one way or another.
Why does idave restrict fatty meat and restrict nuts to small quantities?
because they are calorific?
600kcal in standard tesco helping of houmous. more than a great big fat pre-made sandwich, in most cases.
[i]Judging by your posting history you come on a mountain bike forum just to talk about road cycling, tv programmes and hilariously expensive jerseys - has it really sunk as low as this?[/i]
Have you glanced through your own history perchance?
Game of Thrones?
Red Dwarf?
Learning French?
Moving to Hebden Bridge?
😆
Breakfast in the most important meal of the day. This is pretty much the only thing that the different opinions agree on. It will be VERY difficult to lose weight if you don't regularly eat breakfast.
My chosen breakfast of fruit and fibre cereal has not turned out to be the healthy option I had hoped. Full of ****ing sugar.
my 4 slice cheese buttes are around 800 calories
Add a couple of bits of fruit and a big mug of tea or three and I'm easy into 1000c for lunch
I am currently doing around 2-3 hrs exercise daily though
Have you glanced through your own history perchance?Game of Thrones?
Red Dwarf?
Learning French?
Moving to Hebden Bridge?
I'm not the one whining and bitching about a thread/forum I opened through my own free choice though am I. That's the crucial difference.
Also, from a thread you started.....
I've always liked bread.When I was a child I existed on sandwiches grabbed from the kitchen at half time in our all day soccer matches, or stuffed into back pockets when we went on adventures. In later life I used bread to fuel racing before gels and energy drinks, I had peanut butter sandwiches handed up to me at the 3 Peaks many years ago.
I was happy with bread, and it was happy with me.
This year I've been suffering with bloating, indigestion and mad diarrohea after eating bread, so I gave it up. Being of a medical nature, I wondered if I had developed some kind of problem with gluten, so tried some gluten-free bread, but had exactly the same result.
So, bread; like it but it don't like me.
Nothing to do with diet though obviously, that would be far too 'Women's Weekly' 😆
I prefer to see it as expressing an opinion, but each to their own.
Have a slice of toast, might take the edge off your sadness.
Breakfast in the most important meal of the day. This is pretty much the only thing that the different opinions agree on
Really?
Fasting is the next breakfast
I've always wanted a stalker! Would you like some pictures too?
Probably being exposed as a whiny hypocrite on a thread you profess to have no interest in would make it a good time for you to give up and do something else.
Fasting is the next breakfast
Traditionally I've never bothered either but to be fair, I feel better now I do.
Seriously, sugar in fruit and fibre? Unreal.
I'm enjoying your discomfort too much to be honest. And I've got some lentils soaking, so I'm free for a while. 😆
There's a nice set of images at http://primalcyclist.com/2012/02/05/carbs-are-killing-you/ that explain the "carbs make you fat" science pretty well.
Nice link, and I know I'm not really interested in this thread, but doesn't it depend still on you, and your ingestion of said carbs?
If you don't put them in there in the first place, they can't have the same effect on you or on your insulin production. You can think about high GI and high carb meals all day long, but if you don't eat them, they can't make you fat.
The whole singletrackworld diet obsession seems to me to be about self control; don't eat things that are high in carbs and burn off what you do eat and you'll be thin or get thinner.
Essentially, 'eat less and move more' which even Lorraine Kelly suggested...
It's not eat less, move more. It's eat as much fat and protein as you like.
Well, I'm female, and I'm no stranger to diets and weight management theories but I've never read Women's weekly.....
I actually LIKE on here that you get guys debating diet and food issues, because so many men think it's a bit rubbish to care what you put in your body and then they end up letting themselves go and doing nowt about it for fear of looking like a nancy in front of their mates going on a diet and not swilling beer and shovelling in chips.
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Fat free yoghurt with piles of sugar in drives me mad.
[url= http://chriskresser.com/perfecthealth ]This is the most sense I've seen written on nutrition and overall health. [/url]
Wish sugar was taxed at a higher rate or controlled in some other way. Don't get me wrong, I have a sweet tooth, but it should be a highly taxed luxury like alcohol.
The decision of society to embrace high carb low fat is a huge mistake and will be looked back on in 50 years as a disaster.