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has a strange effect upon line breaks
making you type in what looks like
but isn't
poetry
Just a shit phone
Are they low GI biccies?
Who cares?
I'm on the day off from the diet, which is confusing because it's not really a diet, it's a lifstyle thing. I'm on a weekly day off from my lifestyle. Which probably means it has now become a part of that said lifestyle and can't be considered a day off at all. I can see why these threads get so long now...
Do you want a bloody biscuit or not??? 👿
glenh - Member
slimjim78 - Member
Yesterdays Grub-Breakfast - several cups of black tea
Lunch - tinned tuna, salad, loads of garden peas
Snack - white choccie biscuit from spain (damned colleagues)
Pre Ride hunger snack - cashew nuts, 2x chicken drumsticks, several salami slices
Post ride meal - big bowl of Raisin Wheats with whole milk (a moment of weakness, but they were very nice none the less)That seems like quite a small amount of food. No breakfast and no real evening meal. How long was your ride?
Sounds like a crap diet to me.
That seems like quite a small amount of food. No breakfast and no real evening meal. How long was your ride?
Only 45 mins last night.
But I did eat plenty the day before as I was at a restaurant for a family occasion, which involved chocolate cake. and creme brulee. whats a man to do?
1h30mins riding today, plus 1500m open water swim.
Todays grub
Breakfast - 3x bacon rashers + boiled egg
Lunch - Haloumi + Onion Salad, Pint of beer (colleague leaving company)
Snacks - none yet (does black tea count?)
Tea - probably meat + 2 veg tonight. Spicy style.
Will probably have something carby for a snack today due to level of traning.
Do you want a bloody biscuit or not???
How about a jaffa cake?
Sounds like a crap diet to me.
why so?
admittedly yesterday wasn't my finest moment, but it did contain some complex carbs, proteins, fats.. and certainly not a vast amount of sugar (but alot more than I usually consume)
anyone else? was that a particularly crap day's food?
Here you go, old chap.
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They're not biscuits.
Blimey, that's not going to do my lifestyle any good.
4.BP.BLOGSPOT.COM With ref to the earlier brief discussion of fructose good/bad, having just watched this video & assuming this guy's science is correct, I can see why it should be considered "bad"!
They're not biscuits.
Pfft! Next you'll be telling me the iDave diet isn't a diet either.
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[/img][/url]"If you want to lose fat then create a calorie deficit, your body will then eat into your fat
Really? There's some on here (and elsewhere) who disagree.
Probably people looking for any excuse not to change their diet
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[i]You don't know that though, whether they knew or cared about what it would do[/i]
Nah, you're right.
I just make stuff up.
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Well, best we ask Hank.
And my original point was Coke replaced sugar for HFCS as HFCS was 30 percent cheaper at the time.
Within the context some were discussing Corporate responsibilty towards the public.
Hank:
[i]Hank Cardello, the [b]former head of marketing at Coca-Cola[/b], tells me that in 1984, Coke in the US swapped from sugar to HFCS (In the UK, it continued to use sugar). As a market leader, Coke's decision sent a message of endorsement to the rest of the industry, which quickly followed suit. There was "no downside" to HFCS, Cardello says. [b]It was two-thirds the price of sugar[/b], and [u]even the risk of messing with the taste was a risk worth taking when you looked at [b]the margin[/b][/u], especially as there were no apparent health risks. At that time, "obesity wasn't even on the radar" says Cardello.[/i]
Obesity was on the radar.
Just not at Coke a Cola Towers.
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Pedal head.
Thats the exact same conclusion I came to and I think Prof Lusitg's work is pretty sound.
Slim Jim, our resident (albeit banned) expert TSY says your diet is crap btw.
This thread isn't the same without iMolly or TSY 😥
Yeti's banned?!?
permananetly banned or naughty stepped?
anyone else? was that a particularly crap day's food?
Yes
I am not on a diet nor am I fat
yeah, why is TSY banned ?
How did I miss [i]that[/i]?
Oh dear.
I'M NOT FAT!!!
my bones are dense.
with kebab meat.
Phil.
I'm not sure the Mods have explained their reasons to you...
Your bias doesn't surprize me.
Your bias doesn't surprize me.
Steady tiger.
Keep it friendly.
Steady tiger.
Keep it friendly.
Why are you trying to make a [i]tiger[/i] be friendly? GGRRRRAAAARRRRR
Oh... that sounds rather poor for all involved.
And really quite silly, considering the subject matter.
Just showing off in front of the girlies. 😳
On the other hand, this thread has gone 8 pages & hasn't descended into pointless bickering 😉
Just showing off in front of the girlies.
There's GIRLIES?
Quick; be good.
[i]Steady tiger.
Keep it friendly. [/i]
Don.
Thats the idea, and its gone well so far, in the absence of certain individuals.
Well, that is until a few types arrived with their wooden spoons.
Pity really, cos they could have chose to engage in the debate instead.
I've done my research, and it continues.
I've posted the comments from bodies and people in authourity on this subject and have tried to keep my personal opinons to a minimum so as to avoid argument.
While also ignoring the sniping remarks from others.
Science has the answers and as Molgrips has pointed out.
When your 68 yrs old, do you want the doc to tell you that you've got 2 yrs left of 20 ?.
Ta.
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And really quite silly, considering the subject matter.
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incredibly silly considering the subject matter!
EDIT:
When your 68 yrs old, do you want the doc to tell you that you've got 2 yrs left of 20 ?.
if i make it to 68, considering my hereditary medical conditions i'll be in a wheelchair with a back that's crumbling away and my diet will be incredibly restricted anyway. honest answer to the question... i'm predicting i'd prefer to be told 2 instead of 20.
with regards to the whole coke conspiracy; who would ever consider flavoured sugar water to be a healthy drink, whether its sugar or corn syrup, cocaine or whatever inside it?
[i]incredibly silly considering the subject matter!
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Phil.
You're missing the point, again.
Anyway, thats it for me.
Theres enough in the previous pages for those who are genuinely interested and don't just turn up here to releive their work stresses by trying to belittle others.
Good Thread.
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so i can't agree with Ro5ey?
why not just start calling me a bell end on the forum in every post? oh hang on, you've already done that several times and i've never reported you, in fact i apologised for whatever it was i was meant to have done to upset you, publically.
wow. what a horrible person you're showing me to be.
I'm going to start eating cake and chips again, just so that I don't have to explain to people at work that I'm [i]not[/i] trying to lose weight.
what's a bell end?
EDIT: don't google 'bell end' at work
or 'gentleman's tip'
what's a bell end?
And is it iDave compliant?
Probably people looking for any excuse not to change their diet
It's not that it's wrong to talk about calories in/out, it's just over simplified and focussing on that alone is unhelpful. it's much easier to create a calorie deficit for most people if they avoid or limit certain types of foods (and it's not just fatty foods).
And slimjim, that doesn't look like a healthy diet to me I'm afraid, but what do I know, I'm a fatty. 🙂
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definitely iDave compliant, full of protein if you eat it right 😯
anyway, back to the OP. i read the link a few hours before it was posted up on here and thought it was a pretty well presented article... it still baffles me how anybody could think flavoured sugary water is healthy no matter how that sugar is put in there, be it corn syrup or raw cane sugar!
interesting that they kept sugar in it and didnt alter it like in the states, we're fast become mini-america as the world becomes a smaller place so i wonder if they'll eventually change over?
poor slimjim, he's posted one days food! i wouldn't judge a diet based on a one day sample unless he's eating the same every day
more hummus SJ 😀
interesting that they kept sugar in it and didnt alter it like in the states, we're fast become mini-america as the world becomes a smaller place so i wonder if they'll eventually change over?
Presumably becasue there's lots of corn grown in the states, whereas we grow lots of sugar beet? Corn syrup might be cheep over there but probably isn't worth the cost difference to ship it.
iiinnnnteresting, is UK coke made in the UK then, i presumed, probably wrongly it was shipped over from the US having never bothered to read a can properly!
of course it is made here not worth the cost shipping it though I am sure they could ship the "secret" formula that makes it taste so great
TBH I have no idea last time I drunk some fizzy pop ...it is so long ago it was called fizzy pop though.
For those who consider the food industry bears no responsibility - this is a former Coke marketing executive:
“I’m not against soft drinks per se,” he began carefully. “What I am for is balance of power. And I think the power has shifted in the wrong direction. The resources, the scale, the intelligence, the strategy these companies use is intense.....
“It’s one of the great marketing machines of the world. You’ve got so many tools at your fingertips. … You’re dealing with Michael Jackson, the NFL, multimillion-dollar decisions,” he said.”If you’re interested in moving consumers, then you’re most happy when you move millions of consumers. . . . It’s exciting, intoxicating, even. I felt like the king of the world.”
For all the range and reach of Coke’s marketing operation, Putman said he quickly learned it was built around one goal: per-capita consumption. “How can we drive more ounces into more bodies more often?”
The term of art among company executives was one Putman had never heard before: “share of stomach.”
[b]“It was a mind-bending paradigm shift for me. We weren’t trying to get share of market. We weren’t about trying to beat Pepsi or Mountain Dew. We were about trying to beat everything.”[/b]
Putman embraced the challenge with gusto. In the interview, he recalled giving a presentation in which he showed a chart illustrating how consumption of milk had dropped over time while consumption of a sugary soda — he can no longer remember which product — had risen.
When he pointed to the place where the two lines crossed — the moment in which soda surpassed milk — Putman remembers swelling with pride.
This is pretty telling also:
It is long-standing Coca-Cola policy not to directly market any of its products to children younger than 12. The company has never advertised on weekend cartoon shows, for example, and Putman said he was never given data on consumption rates among children 11 or younger.[b]Still, he said, “magically, when they would turn 12, we’d suddenly attack them like a bunch of wolves.”[/b]
Company research indicated that brand loyalty starts young, and once formed it is hard to break. “I would say 90 percent of all soft drink marketing is targeted at 12- to 24-year-olds. . . . It was how we spent all of our time.”
BANGORDAILYNEWS.COM Can't remember if this has been discussed already, but this interview also makes pretty sickening reading:
TBH I have no idea last time I drunk some fizzy pop ...it is so long ago it was called fizzy pop though.
And you got money back when you returned the bottle?
Isn't Coca~Cola made under licence in each country?
iiinnnnteresting, is UK coke made in the UK then, i presumed, probably wrongly it was shipped over from the US having never bothered to read a can properly!
of course it is made here not worth the cost shipping it though I am sure they could ship the "secret" formula that makes it taste so great
Actualy I dunno, they could make the syrup (which is probably barely any more than the sugar) in the states and ship it over, the shipping would then be offset against only needing a diluting/botteling plant in the UK.