[Closed] Why buy a MacBook (or Mac for that matter?)

Wow, what an original question 🙂

I hope you realise what you've done

cos they are slick as f@@k

End off

Why not?

I have one because they are loved by Belgians the world over 😉

I made the switch earlier in the year and for me, the big thing is that I don't have to spend half life virus checking, downloading update, defragging and installing. The MAC just does what its meant to.

Cos I had one at my last job and got used to using one for doing design stuff on them, I find it really easy to swap between lots of programs open at the same time.

And I like writing applescripts to make my life easier.

And I like apple stuff. :-/

Ok then...

Just better, that's all.

Next.

You won't regret getting one, nobody ever does 🙂

I love mine for it's sheer utilitarian beauty. No bolloxing about with form over function.

What Efin said

I recently got a Mac for home, find using work laptop a little frustrating now.

Why do people buy pc's/laptops over Mac's is the question. Other than gaming were support seems to be higher from developers and GPU manufactures (I'm sure they are better supported as more people own them) there's not much a PC/laptop will do better than a Mac.

there's not much a PC/laptop will do better than a Mac

because I can.

Forgot to say: great value for money too.

Macs were always traditionally better for anything creative, so Design work, music etc. And because Apple OSX is based upon UNIX, it is inherently more stable itself than Windows (though beware the same does not apply to all the software you can run on a Mac, most Apple products are very stable but many 3rd party software is not).

Windows Machines were always traditionally more useful for more "office based" work, such as spreadsheets, databases, excel etc...

Of course the lines have significantly blurred over the last few years since Apple switched over to Intel Processors. Now a Mac can do anything a Windows Machine can do (including run Windows, either virtually or booting into it!), but similarly Windows PCs have become more stable (especially true now with Windows 7, but also partly due to the continued development of XP which was always too open to being hacked but in SP3 form is much more stable these days).

You will get better performance specs for you money 9 times out of 10 buying a Windows machine, but these days Apple's USP is that they are the only "all in one, hardware and software" supplier... And the quality of the hardware really is 2nd to none, I've recently fixed up a couple of old G5 Power Mac's (one for myself, one for a mate, a third was used for spares) and the quality is unreal. MASSIVELY over engineered, but in a good way...

Oh, and for some of us, having a Mac is the only option for some software we want to run (in my case Logic Audio) as it's not available for the PC... But I also have to run Windows only software too! So in my case, money no option I'd have a massively powerful MacPro, running both OSX and Windows 7 Pro 64bit inside a virtual machine... Possibly Ubuntu Studio on there too for a tri-OS system.

But as it is, I'm not very well off, so I've got an ok spec Quad Core desktop PC, a 4 year old MacBookPro, and a 6 year old G5 PowerMac. The MBP was owned from new, but the PC was less than £300 new, and the G5 was £180!!! BARGAIN! 😀

I have one because they are loved by Belgians the world over

iDave, I see what you've done....

....and I like it! 🙂

I've always referred Macs since using one in college with the original Adobe Photoshop. Always found PCs fiddly and un-intuitive.

Last week I was trying to play a DVD in my PC. Used Windoze Media Player. Woon't do fullscreen for some reason, and there was no audio. Had to use VLC, a downloaded bit of software.

On the Mac, I bung it in, and DVD Player opens automatically (I can turn this off if I want), and there's no faffing about.

The PC is forever telling me to 'download this' and 'upgrade that' and 'Ooh! Virus check'.

Stuff like setting up Wi-Fi; on the Mac it's a doddle. On the PC, it took me ages to actually be able to find where the flippin' Network application setup thingy was, and even then it still took several goes because it's so shite.

And as for Antivirus...

Everything's.......running........sooooooo........sloooooww.......because.........of.......the.........antivirus..........

If owt goes wrong on a PC, you really need a fair amount of knowledge of computers to be able to sort it out.

Hardly anything ever goes wrong on my Mac, and even if it does, it's almost always sortable within seconds. My PC has windows that pop up on startup, alerting me to something, yet I have no idea what the problem actually is. I do know that my Wi-Fi settings need re-doing every time I start the poxy thing up. The Mac does this automatically.

Hardware: My Mac Pro is proper solid, and has top-quality components inside. Nowt's gone wrong in over 4 years of daily use. That's around 20,000 hours of use. My old 2000 iMac still works ok, and is far more capable than a PC of similar vintage.

The OS is far superior. Windoze 7 is finally up to about Mac OSX 10.1. So only about 8 or 9 years behind. Anything good on a PC is a rip-off of Mac technology and design.

Cost? My iMac was good vfm compared with a similarly specced PC at the time. My Mac Pro (custom spec) was over £1000 cheaper than the nearest equivalently specced Dell (still wasn't quite as good, as the Xeon processors weren't available for PC custom builds at that time).

So, Mac every time for me. I'm happy to pay the 'extra'.

Everyone I know who's switched from PCs to Macs has said Macs are better.

I don't know anyone who's done the opposite...

The answer to any computing problem is linux. Windows exists for dull Xfactor viewers, and Apple for extravagant fashion victims.

If you want to use what a computer does, i.e. surf the POrnWeb and do things normal people do [b]without[/b] a 5 minute boot up and general fail mode and a safe mode and a crap user interface that makes no sense whatsoever to a human and requires you to bend to the will of the manufacturer who made it for them and not for you then you should consider buying a Mac.

On my second laptop in 8 years from them and it never ever ever doesn't do what it's told.

The PC's i use daily however reduce me to anger with crap software, bugs, security threats, ctrl-alt-del presses, and general 'CBA' modes.

Try one out. If like = Yes and cash in bank = Yes then buy. If these rules do not apply then don't.

The answer to any computing problem is linux. Windows exists for dull Xfactor viewers, and Apple for extravagant fashion victims.

No no no.

Here:

If you just want a computer to do stuff without having to be a complete geek, use a Mac. If you're a masochist, use Windoze. If you're a boring geek with no life, use Linux.

Adobe Photoshop on Linux? Nope; thought not.

porn without viruses

Why else?

My only problem with mine is that it means I have something in common with Effinchafing 😐

EDIT: apart from, well, [i]that[/i] thing...

Why do people buy pc's/laptops over Mac's is the question. Other than gaming were support seems to be higher from developers and GPU manufactures (I'm sure they are better supported as more people own them) there's not much a PC/laptop will do better than a Mac.

Errrr, why do more people own Fords than Rolls Royces? Sounds like you've bought into the Apple doctrine!

Price is the first answer, Macs are closer in price to PC's now than they've ever been (or they have been the last couple of years, recent pricing has crept up again). Macs were always VERY steeply priced, they've always appealed to a niche market.

Now before you go ahead and chastise me, I love Macs... I used to hate PCs, until I figured out how to keep them running sweet... Now I love both, they're tools of the trade to me, Macs more robust and more resilient, PC's needing more care and careful setup but ultimately cheaper to own and run.

[i]Why do people buy pc's/laptops over Mac's is the question. Other than gaming were support seems to be higher from developers and GPU manufactures (I'm sure they are better supported as more people own them) there's not much a PC/laptop will do better than a Mac. [/i]

Accept proprietry hardware and software and just work? I'm pretty sure I've got you on that one. And really, that's what PC's are good at and it's the same point people singing the praises of MAC's miss over and over again. I can pick up a piece of kit in a shop, decide I want to use it in my computer and plug it in, and it'll work virtually all of the time. Try that with a MAC.

PC's are cheap, modular, dynamic and will work with just about any piece of hardware of software out there. So I can plug in an anal intruder or a bespoke automatic kettle burnisher and it'll work. I can install Windows, Ubuntu, Beos, AmigaOS, or a spectrum emulator, it'll all work. That's what I like about PC's.

Yeah, MAC's are great. But it's just an expensive, inflexible computer at the end of the day, anyone saying different is only kidding themselves.

edit: I'll add perhaps what a chap said to me the other day, 'MAC's are computers for people who don't like computers' and he was pretty much right with a few notable exceptions.

Elfinsafety clearly lives well in the past and is a capitalist luddite.

Try linux again pal.

edit: I'll add perhaps what a chap said to me the other day

Now there's a chap what's talking out of his big hairy nerdy arse 😛

Because, when I'm lounging about at Starbucks in my skinny Levi's, New Balance trainers and two-tone American Apparel zip-up hoody, flicking through the latest issue of Wire and pretending to be a vegetarian in a doomed effort to pick up an art student, it really blows the whole deal when I pull out a Dell.

Not a Luddite. just someone who wants to drive the car, not spend their life under the flippin' bonnet...

Capitalist? Me???

😆

I wish....

I'll add perhaps what a chap said to me the other day

A chap said to me the other day that 'the end is nigh' - so what?

Chaps sometime talk bollox, in fact [i]some[/i] even claim they're related to Jim Callaghan....

I can pick up a piece of kit in a shop, decide I want to use it in my computer and plug it in, and it'll work virtually all of the time. Try that with a MAC.

Yup, Mac's too... I've NEVER come across a piece of hardware that I wanted to use that didn't just plug and play with a Mac, same as it would with a Windows Machine. Only more often than not you've got to use the driver CD with a Windows machine, whereas you don't with a Mac!

Cost? My iMac was good vfm compared with a similarly specced PC at the time. My Mac Pro (custom spec) was over £1000 cheaper than the nearest equivalently specced Dell (still wasn't quite as good, as the Xeon processors weren't available for PC custom builds at that time).

Funnily enough, it's only at the more expensive end that Macs begin to look good VFM. A base Mac Mini is a right rip off compared to a Windows machine, as is a base MacBook. But when you start to look at top spec MacBookPro's versus a high spec windows laptop, or a dual 6 core MacPro with tonnes of RAM compared to a high end dual Xeon processored server grade PC, you start to see just where Apple VFM lies. Of course, spending £2k on a laptop, or £4k+ on a desktop is not everyone's normal purchase though! So for the mostpart, ie. the cheaper end of the scale, Apple lose out on VFM. Though the iMac does have a very good quality screen built in that you would pay extra for with a PC.

You haven't tried linux in years, if ever. No laughing smiley.

I can pick up a piece of kit in a shop, decide I want to use it in my computer and plug it in, and it'll work virtually all of the time. Try that with a MAC.

PC's are cheap, modular, dynamic and will work with just about any piece of hardware of software out there. So I can plug in an anal intruder or a bespoke automatic kettle burnisher and it'll work. I can install Windows, Ubuntu, Beos, AmigaOS, or a spectrum emulator, it'll all work.

Eh?

Can someone please explain what he's going on about?

Samuri; I take it you've never used a Mac, then... 🙂

But it's just an expensive, inflexible computer at the end of the day, anyone saying different is only kidding themselves.

[url= http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/ ]These people may disagree....[/url]

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What a crap argument this is anyway.

Basically:

[b]Mac = Better.
PC = Not better.[/b]

All sorted now? Good.

Night night!

X

Anyone can be convinced anything is good, and then will do their best to prove why theyre right. Be it Mac, PC or otherwise.

I will say that anyone who thinks Linux still needs significant under the hood tinkering is somewhat behind the times. Some distros, yes, but not the major general user distros.

I will say that anyone who thinks Linux still needs significant under the hood tinkering is somewhat behind the times. Some distros, yes, but not the major general user distros.

I'm pretty computer literate, Mac and PC. People bring me their computers to sort out problems with or upgrade etc, both software and hardware. OK, I'm no genius, but I can sort out most things that go wrong or need improving.

I've messed about with Ubuntu a bit a year or so ago, it was a NIGHTMARE! Nothing worked with it... The computer would've been fine as a standalone, but as I wanted to plug a printer, an external sound card and a few other bits and pieces in, it was useless! Oh, and it wouldn't update properly, had all sorts of issues with various bits of software, it just isn't easy to use or intuitive to anyone that can't seriously tinker about with it behind the scenes. And the problem is they'll carry on being pretty much useless to all but Mr. Average until there's more and more developers out there that are developing it for all possibilities and eventualities.

Agree with you about people trying to prove/defend their choice as the correct one though... Apple Vs PC? They each have their merits and detractors... PC's usually win out on cost grounds though, if nothing else, which is why there's so many more of them about!

Thanks for the replies lads. Would it be possible to pick up a decent spec used MacBook for around £300? If so what should I be aiming for?

iDave, how can I be expected to lead a normal life when my sides ache as they do.... 😐

I do love the polarised mac/pc arguments.
I use both.. tools for a job at the end of the day. I have some software thats PC only and some things that are a bit easier to do on a Mac

Macs are generally prettier but in my experience not always as reliable as people claim. Having said that my PC isnt always reliable either.. 🙂

End of the day theyre just computers so you all really need to relax a bit... NO DEAR I WONT COME TO BED SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET IS WRONG!! 🙄

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I've only recently got my first Macbook and mightily impressed I am too after years of dodgy Windows laptops (not Windows 7 though) but from what I've heard Macbooks tend to hold their value well so not sure what you will get for £300 - have a look on eBay

TBH it's just for web mainly so I don't need anything too flashy ot the latest model as long as it's nipppy.

You could be right, buying is so passé. I don't realy mind, I'll nick either PCs or Macs. It's all money at the end of the day.

when I had a pc at & a mac I work I constantly found myself going - I can do this on my mac, why can't I do that on my pc?

I never found myself going - I can do this on my pc, why can't I do that on my mac.

I have a MBP, 2 years old now, and its ok. The Superdrives are made of cheese though, but are a nice example of an oxymoron.

Bought a macbook a few weeks ago and generally I'm pretty happy. Contrary to what "some bloke" thinks, I'm someone who loves computers and uses them both for the banal (STW) and geeky (software development) and so far the mac has been spot on. I've got Windows installed for the stuff I NEED internet explorer for (i.e. my work's HR system and some other tools) but I use that at most for an hour every few days. Conversely, Windows7 is about as stable as MacOS and does the job well.

So yeah, get one because they "just work" but Windows 7 does too so honestly, its about what you want to do these days more than just stability or photoshop etc.

on the other hand....

My mrs got a MBP because the other two people in her company (technical designers, she's the FD) use theirs for Autocad, videos etc and she tor some daft reason thought it would be better for them to be all on the same platform.

At the time I said it would be a big mistake and she would find it difficult to do her work on the MB and so it turned out. The MBP is now sitting on the side and she has gone back to her perfectly good Dell laptop. Currently running Vista happily although I might treat her to a copy of W7 some day.

A combination of the windows emulator being stubborn around running sage and the way the the spreadsheet program knackers excel documents just made it a waste of time for the business side of PC use.

Now there's going to be those that say its fine for that function but it blatantly wasnt for her. PCs are a personal thing and functionally they still differ enough IMO to make the right choice important and to be fooled by the "Macs are business machines too" adlines.

The only thing Ill say for the mac is that it was easy to set up as a share on my W7 server because they all talk samba. I was worried it would be a nightmare to do. Oh and printer drivers were difficult to get for one printer and impossible for the other.

I'd say anyone who thinks PCs are [i]that[/i] personal needs to get out a bit more. 😛

I've been a life-long Windows user but have to say Apple have started getting things right in the last year or two. They used to fall down on price or functionality but don't really have that issue now. I've still yet to be convinced by Linux though, admittedly not tried it at home but it's a pain in the tits when using it on servers IME.

Preferably in some extremely comfortable conservative shoes.

The last time I used a Mac it looked like this...

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I'm guessing they've moved on a bit. Are they still a walled garden? Ok, you can install Windows, but is the driver support there?

Can i just add a point in the direction of the pro linux crowd.

The reason I use a mac is I have a full posix environment, built in GCC etc. an Xserver etc. and yet it "just works" when I need it to. It's all the best bits of *nix with a nice skin on top. This is why a lot of very geeky folk have been moving to OSX, you can have your cake and eat it.

So to answer the OP - cos I want a machine that just works, and yet sometimes you really just need to whip out a terminal. Anyone suggesting the windows command prompt is any good gets a slap.

My professional life revolves around Microsoft stuff, so I like having a home computing environment that's different. The fact it's nicely geared up for straightforward dealing with music, photos and video (90% of what I use my home computers for) is great. I have a windows VM just in case I need it, but have fewer and fewer reasons to fire it up. I have games consoles for gaming, I stepped off the PC gaming upgrade treadmill 5+ years ago.

I like the hardware too, and am of the belief that total cost of ownership compares well with the bog-standard Dells that people compare them with. I get a new machine every 3 years or so, I tend to buy new ones tax-free at the airport then sell the old one on ebay for about 40-50% of what I paid.

Plus given I live in London, if something does go wrong, I can book an appointment at any time into late evening and drop the machine off at a store to pick up later rather than spending an age on the phone then waiting for a courier.

Not saying they're ideal for everyone, but I'm happy with mine. If you have to ask a forum of internetards to sell you the benefits, you'll probably end up whinging about it 6 months down the line so you'd be best off buying a Dell instead.

loddrick, YGM

I bought one about six months ago.

I wanted the best tool I could afford to play around with my photos.

The first time I used it I used it Photoshop to convert over 300 RAW images to JPEG. I was expecting it to be a hassle, I was expecting to have to restart the machin several times, I was expecting to have to split said 300 photos into 'batches'.

But as it was 'my first time' I decided to be mean...and asked it to do all 300 as a oner.

A few minutes later the job was done. ITunes was playing the whole time too. I don't know if a similar vintage PC would do such a thing, but I was impressed and I certainly don't regret buying my Mac.

Don't know if this adds anything but it's just my experience.

A few minutes later the job was done. ITunes was playing the whole time too. I don't know if a similar vintage PC would do such a thing, but I was impressed and I certainly don't regret buying my Mac.

Any newish PC with a similar spec should be able to do that, too.

OP: If you fancy a Mac, get one. I wouldn't expect it to be any better than a similarly priced Windows7 machine though.

What some people seem to be forgetting, is that a Mac is a hardware and software package, whereas Windoze and Linux are simply OS's. I can run OSX, Windoze XP and 7 and Linux on my Mac, if I so choose. Someone like Stoner's missus could easily run Sage or whatever on their Mac.

Seeing as OSX is by far the best OS, I'll stick with that. I'm not a software engineer or whatever, so I can't be arsed spending years learning stuff just to make things work.

Apple have looked at the way [i]most[/i] people actually use computers, and designed stuff that is actually pleasant to use, and does what people want it to. Most people who use computers aren't spoddy geeks these days. They're just normal Human Beings. Who want to get on with their lives without fiddling about with flippin Windoze drivers and network settings and all that crap.

But hey, if you like defragging and updating yer registry and running antivrus and that, feel free. The Mac users will be out enjoying themselves. 🙂

OP: If you fancy a Mac, get one. I wouldn't expect it to be any better than a similarly priced Windows7 machine though.

Good idea, then you will be pleasantly surprised to find out that it is miles better. 😛

I have never paid for a computer and I just use what I'm given. One year ago, I was given a Mac and told "See how you get on with that".

For the first month, I thought it was a PITA.
Then I settled into it and thought no more of it - Looks nice, but nothing special.

Until I recently tried using a friend's PC. I found it HORRIBLY un-intuitive and clunky. And then it needed patches, installs, BSOD and a re-boot or two before it would do what I was supposed to be helping him with.

And I'd forgotten about viruses, de-frags, searching for files etc.

I would NEVER go back to a PC.
Tho gawd knows how I would afford my own Mac if I had to pay for one. They're not exactly cheap, are they?

To be fair, I hate the Mac mouse.
Functionally crap and ergonomically wrong.

I bought a new wireless mouse yesterday, Microsoft branded.
To use on my Mac. And supposedly Mac compatible...

I had to install 11.5Mb (FFS!) of drivers off the setup CD.
And it didn't work on the Mac.
During setup, it had checked (and failed to find) updated drivers on the MS site.

Took me 1.5 hours to:
Realise that the software had no Mac support for customizing buttons (meaning to make it USABLE, rather than middle-click randomly closing stuff);
Locate the ACTUAL current drivers online;
FIND and uninstall the outdated drivers on my hard-drive (it would only let me specify the HDD, not WHERE on the drive they were installed);
Reboot (Hahaha - remember when you had to do that?);
Re-install the new drivers;
Reboot AGAIN (getting boring now - I never usually reboot Mac for months at a time);
Set up my button preferences and get it all working.

All for a mouse.

Do I miss Microsoft?
Not on your life!

You can't polish a turd.

Until I recently tried using a friend's PC

Windows 7?

And all computers need de-fragging btw. Once a year maybe!

Apple have looked at the way most people actually use computers, and designed stuff that is actually pleasant to use, and does what people want it to. Most people who use computers aren't spoddy geeks these days. They're just normal Human Beings. Who want to get on with their lives without fiddling about with flippin Windoze drivers and network settings and all that crap

Seriously, so have MS. W7 is WAY better than any of the previous efforts. On XP the user friendly dialogs and stuff were just a token covering up all the grimy details you had to know. On W7 (and vista tbh) it's properly done. They've completely re-thought how common stuff like networking is set up.

And what's the issue with anti-virus? Install MSE, forget about it.

Install this...
install that...
check this...
learn how to de-frag that...

No, thanks.
I'd rather stuff worked first time so I can go and do something interesting with my life.

My main point is:
I'm not interested in how great Windows 7 is.

I struggled with MS crap for years.
They have now lost me as a customer. Forever.

And my work-related stress level is much lower, due to zero crashes and lost work in the whole of the last year.

So MS might be able to do the same now, with Windows 7?
Well good for you MS users.
But so what? It's a shame we all had to put up with such shoddy OS before.

Install this...
install that...
check this...
learn how to de-frag that..

Wtf you on about?

Defragging is somethign that all computers need, but very infrequently!

I'm not interested in how great Windows 7 is.

I struggled with MS crap for years.
They have now lost me as a customer. Forever.

And my work-related stress level is much lower, due to zero crashes and lost work in the whole of the last year

You div. You hate something because of what it WAS, regardless of how good it is NOW. Marvellous reasoning. Ever use a Mac from the old days? When they used to crash all the time because they didn't have protected memory space, and virtual memory was so bad you had to switch it off?

due to zero crashes and lost work in the whole of the last year.

Same here.

MS have spent a great deal of time and effort in making their stuff better, and with success. Gets my vote.

Because, when I'm lounging about at Starbucks in my skinny Levi's, New Balance trainers and two-tone American Apparel zip-up hoody, flicking through the latest issue of Wire and pretending to be a vegetarian in a doomed effort to pick up an art student, it really blows the whole deal when I pull out a Dell.

Ive got a mac & the amount of time I have to spend nursing it compared to the pc is negligible.

Apple have looked at the way most people actually use computers, and designed stuff that is actually pleasant to use, and does what people want it to. Most people who use computers aren't spoddy geeks these days. They're just normal Human Beings. Who want to get on with their lives without fiddling about with flippin Windoze drivers and network settings and all that crap.

Couldnt have put it better.

I'm not going to get drawn into a "my computer is better than yours" pissing contest, but I'd like to make a couple of observations.

1) If you can't promote your chosen platform without slagging off the competition, you lose. Sorry. Eg, I have a Toshiba TV, it's ace, but if anyone asks me why I can probably field that without needing to resort to "because Panasonic are crap, zomg."

2) It strikes me that a lot of people (on both sides of the 'debate') haven't used what they're criticising in many, many years. This is fine of course, if you're happy with Linux / Windows / OSX then why would you change, but it really should mean that you're commenting from a point of ignorance.

3) If you insist on continually slipping the side-splittingly hilarious "Windoze," "Micro$$oft," or "Internet Exploder" constructs into conversation, you waive any right you may have had for your point to be taken seriously.

And a special 4) to Looptail, who spent an hour and a half trying to get a Microsoft mouse working on a Mac, failed, and blamed Microsoft. I have your petard here somewhere, hold on.

Good post Cougar.

Also love all the comments regarding Windows stability, dunno what you guys are doing, but I've not had an unstable Windows PC for years; in fact I struggle to remember the last BSOD.

Quick there is a Macbook on the Classifieds

+1 for Cougar. I'm not slagging off Macs, I've not used one since 1995. I just object to fanboi-ism, and I also object to such fanbois going on and on about how terrible PCs are when it's not necessarily the case.

Pros and cons to both platforms.

I think what I object to is this blinkered idea that one size fits all, rather than choosing the right tool for the job. It's the same in the mobile phone threads.

Someone asks for advice and the zealots are trampling each other underfoot in their haste to go "you need what I've got!" without any consideration for the needs or requirements of the person asking the question. If you don't stop and ask questions, find out what is being asked of you before making a recommendation, then your wonderful beloved technology isn't going to be able to compensate for the fact that you're an idiot.

I like Macs. I like Windows, and Linux. I like Android, and iPhones, and Symbian. In those areas I have personal preferences, but I wouldn't be so arrogant as to think that what's right for me is right for the rest of the world. That's what 'personal' means. If it was, we'd all be using it and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

😆 @ cougar

(That said, you should all buy an Xbox 😀 )

I've a PC at home, it does everything I want: stores pictures, runs itunes (as well as doing other things at the same time) it's never broken down nor do I have to do anything to it, it's never had a virus, never not done anything I didn't want it to do.

It just works, you know?

I couldn't give a fig about Mac vs PC.

Back to the OP...

I have been a Mac user since 1991 and use them every day for work.

I wanted a machine for home for web browsing and for storing pictures & music on as I was sick of carting my work PC laptop home or having to take back borrowed Mac towers when we have freelancers in.

I couldn't justify the cost of a Mac so got a PC and it's alright - it does everything I need (and expected) it to.

So, in my opinion, £300 on a cheapo laptop to be used for browsing etc would be a better bet than a £300 second-hand Mac (warranty + knowing what you will get issues) or £700+ on a new Mac.

Macs are alright for the single user desktop, but not in a corp environment. Windows + Linux rule the roost there.

@ molgrips... not every file system needs defragging...

I couldn't give a fig about Mac vs PC.

So why post on a thread that is all about Mac V PC?? 🙄

Macs are alright for the single user desktop, but not in a corp environment. Windows + Linux rule the roost there.

Oh... does the Mac one need it?

And all computers need de-fragging btw.

Errr, no.

Anyway, all the best* TV programmes use Macs so they must be betterer

House - for the MRI scanner screen (yeah right)

CSI S****horpe et al - everywhere (all going 'bing', 'bong' and 'beep')

Spooks - used extensively for surveillance (theirs go 'zip', 'zoom' and 'zapp')

*Probably not the best, but I have yet to see a baboon using any kind of computer hardware in a natural history programme.

Computers in films are always Macs because Apple are really big on paying studios for product placement.

[i]So why post on a thread that is all about Mac V PC??[/i]

you really have to ask? 😆