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Mine's a Renault Laguna estate and will not work in the snow at all or makes a job of it; sliding everywhere and mostly refuses to set off. Had to be rescued by the mrs who was quite happily driving everywhere in her tiny Corsa. Maybe the tyres but I'm blaming the car; I'm not terrible driver either as I drove rather well in my little Saxo last year, but the Laguna will just not work. Carpets salt and shovels in the boot now.
So I ask who's got the worst snow mobile?


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 5:51 pm
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me by far, i got a bmw!!


 
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Posted : 05/12/2010 5:53 pm
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Another for BMW, ours is an auto as well, its crap even with 60kgs of slab in the boot but i love it, fun,fun,fun!

Unless you really need to get somewhere that is.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 5:57 pm
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There must be someone on here with an M5 estate? They would win.


 
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A good friend of mine used to have a Fabia VRS. He's an excellent driver and he said it was an ace car but if there was any snow it was beyond useless. Powerful diesel engine (his had 170bhp, 300+ftlb) in a lightweight car with very low profile wide tyres. Zero grip.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 5:57 pm
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Lexus IS220 - driving in snow should be fun not scary! Although a bit more traction now I've filled the boot with 6 bags of gravel. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 5:59 pm
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I walked past a guy in a BMW spinning his back wheels like billi-o (sp?) trying to get out of his parking spot onto an otherwise clear road. I felt a little guilty not bothering to help, but not much 😈


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:00 pm
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Me. Megane Scenic. Useless to the point of being dangerous.


 
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Posted : 05/12/2010 6:02 pm
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My mates M3.Useless in the snow


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:03 pm
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A good friend of mine used to have a Fabia VRS. He's an excellent driver and he said it was an ace car but if there was any snow it was beyond useless. Powerful diesel engine (his had 170bhp, 300+ftlb) in a lightweight car with very low profile wide tyres. Zero grip.

Well I have an Ibiza, same engine and power and I have not got stuck yet. Your mate clearly can't drive 😉

Audi A6s seem quite bad!


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:04 pm
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+1 for the fabia vrs, mine is useless in the snow with wheelspin at 20mph in 4th gear and crap traction control. It has been mostly parked up for the week. Would probably be a real laugh with some decent snow tyres on it though.


 
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Posted : 05/12/2010 6:06 pm
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Anyone with a BMW that has low profile tyres on... they are USELESS in ice and snow!!! 2 or 4 wheel drive

I had an X5 Sport last year with the snow and it was like a 2 ton roller skate, now i have a Merc ML320 AMG (big wheels, low profile tyres, tuning chip etc) and even though it has low profile 4x4 tyres it is so much better and stable than the BMW. For a German (cold country in winter) manuf they are pants.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:08 pm
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Wheelspin at 20mph in 4th? Really?


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:08 pm
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MX5 and P1800.

THREAD CLOSED.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:11 pm
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Somebody on here must have a S2000.

I owned one a few years ago and when the snow and ice come, the S2000 stayed in the garage. Pretty much uncontrollable in the snow and ice, twas bad enough in the cold and wet.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:15 pm
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Yep, I have an S2000. It doesn't move much in the snow.......unless is sliding 🙂


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:17 pm
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Wheelspin at 20mph in 4th? Really?

He made me chuckle.

Mine is ok but nit great funnily enough it's a VAG diesel TDi with fat tyres.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:18 pm
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I want a P1800!! 🙁


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:19 pm
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I've got a V6 auto, rear-wheel drive Merc with 245/40x17 tyres. It is not good in the snow...


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:22 pm
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My Civic type r was a handful in the snow. Little torque, so no clutch only starts, big wide 18"s, not a good combination.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:22 pm
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My MGF Trophy on 215 semi slicks is less than effective. Clutch and throttle are binary. At least it hasn't got abs.

I used to have a Capri in the 80's that was brilliant fun in the snow.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:22 pm
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Me. BMW 335d. RWD, 428lbs-ft (more than an M5), fat tyres, not even touching it until the ice melts. The other car is brilliant in snow though.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:41 pm
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The Skoda boys need to read the manual. Cars of that group have a very effective electronic diff lock function below a certain speed, I'll allow you to discover it yourself, call it homework.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:46 pm
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I saw a Reliant Rialto three wheel car yesterday, that must be the worst possible option in the snow.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:48 pm
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My Astra VXR is not much fun..low profile, wide tyres, 240bhp!


 
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I have an MX-5, it's pretty useless


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 6:49 pm
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On the A1(M) last sunday afternoon the snow started coming down quite bad everything started slowing down to about 10mph we were down to one lane and everyone drove past a BMW 1 series wheelspinning on one of the hills before wetherby services. About 2 junctions later a Ferrari 456 was being pushed by the guys wife who once they managed to get going jumped in whilst the vehicle was moving. We lost it behind us about 5 mins later and traffic reports said some cars were stranded on the A1(M) so not sure if he made it out or not!


 
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Buggatti veyron is 4wd, so there is no way thats the worst! 🙂

Powerful diesel engine (his had 170bhp, 300+ftlb) in a lightweight car with very low profile wide tyres. Zero grip

The Fabia may be rubbish, but I don't think that statement is too true. Our Mondeo ST TDCi is similar power, wide tyres and not much heavier and its OK in the snow with summer tyres and great with winter tyres.

I am totally sold on winter tyres now. I think they saved me from a big crash yesterday after hitting black ice. Only had the fitted the day before!


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:01 pm
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265/35/18s on the back of my 530i sport and it is driveable, just, but not very good really.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:05 pm
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My old man has a z4 m coupe that hasn't moved. Grandad has a Jag XKR - needless to say that thing is lethal.

My Zafira SRI with 225/40/18s isnt the best. However the Mrs has a 1.2 Fiat 500 and thats champion.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:08 pm
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My Focus as it's hopelessly buried up to the windows.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:09 pm
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Not an M5, but 535i here, V8 up front and big wide low profiles all-round.

Luckily the wife has a Land Rover.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:12 pm
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My Focus as it's hopelessly buried up to the windows.

Spent half an hour digging mine out yesterday and the battery was flat...


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:13 pm
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My Fabia vRS is pretty awful, wide wheels with stretched low profile tyres, and 400lb/ft through the front wheels, understeertastic.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:14 pm
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"Spent half an hour digging mine out yesterday and the battery was flat..."

Spent about 5 hours today and yesterday digging out one car but the only place to throw the snow was basically all over the other one :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:17 pm
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I had an X5 Sport last year with
the snow and it was like a 2 ton
roller skate, now i have a Merc
ML320 AMG (big wheels, low
profile tyres, tuning chip etc) and
even though it has low profile
4x4 tyres it is so much better and
stable than the BMW. For a
German (cold country in winter)
manuf they are pants.

ML320 AMG

S****s


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:18 pm
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BMW 525d sport touring (E39). Fat tyres, 165bhp, rear wheel drive.

It was quite stressful just driving to Step Bridges via Dunsford this morning on 50% black ice. OK in a straight line...


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:22 pm
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X5, then ML...

Probably rides an immaculate Santa Cruz with full XTR...


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:23 pm
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There must be someone on here with an M5 estate? They would win.

Not quite, but have an Alpina B5 Touring which has the same power but coniderably more torque.... a supercharged V8 kicking out over 500bhp and 500lb ft through 19" bonkers-wide rear wheels.

Last winter we didn't go near it in the snow as we had the use of a neighbour's Landy Disco, but back in April I picked up a second set of wheels complete with winter tyres. With these in place, it's been very very good and perfectly usable even on the slippery hills we have to navigate to get out of the village.


 
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Add me to the list of 170bhp VAG drivers with fat tyres.

Stopped at work car park barrier yesterday and ended up spending an hour digging myself out. 😕

EDIT: I also have a Santa Cruz with XTR ha ha, I love being a streotype. 😉


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:35 pm
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There must be someone on here with an M5 estate? They would win.

I owned an old E34 540i Estate when the snow hit last year... Was fun... Briefly! 😉

Currently got a Passat TDi, to be fair big, heavy, FWD and torquey engine do not help in the snow. Small light car, like a Saxo or Corsa, is the way to go unless you've got a 4WD vehicle.

My Housemate has got a car to rival surf-mat's for unsuitability though... He's got a 1988 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo, that has been tuned a bit, near enough 300bhp and tonnes of torque, fat tyres and a light rear end... Oh, and it's got an auto box in it too! He says it's fun at the mo...


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:38 pm
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my 360bhp rear wheel drive automatic SLK is no fun in the snow at all


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:41 pm
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My Cooper S is pretty much useless on snow. Ironic given the heritage...

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Posted : 05/12/2010 7:41 pm
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Spent last week driving our Fabia VRS round North Yorks. I agree that it isn't great on snow and ice so Mrs Ratadog is doing the school run in the 4x4 estate. Still reckon that anything marked BMW would be worse from what my friends tell me.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:47 pm
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Anj has the most bhp - I have around 300 - but I still have the moat torque going through rear wheels so still the crappest snow car... 😉


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:47 pm
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C220 cdi amg: just got rid of it - shit in the snow.
I smacked it over a curb last yr just near chicksands (on the way to a weds night ride) and killed two tires and an alloy.
Mate of mine has a chipped 2wheel drive 911. That's a handful in the wet, when it's icy he gets a cab to work, lol.


 
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Even with 4 wheel drive this was interesting to say the least....

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It was running over 650BHP and not even on full boost!

It was too much even for the dry roads in this country....


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:50 pm
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C220 cdi amg

S****s again


 
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Anj has the most bhp - I have around 300 - but I still have the moat torque going through rear wheels so still the crappest snow car...

Sorry mate, but heihei beats you on both power and torque with his/her Alpina B5 Touring.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 7:55 pm
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Used to have a 170bhp passat estate, and in last years snow it was embarrassing! it would sit in gear with the engine running and the
wheels spinning!!! current v50 is much better.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 8:02 pm
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Ho hum - I meant on this thread. He/she hardly ever posts anyway. B5s are beasts though.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 8:05 pm
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I don't go anywhere near my 911 C2S in the snow.

Streetcar ftw


 
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Sorry mate, but heihei beats you on both power and torque with his/her Alpina B5 Touring.

Technically his, but the wife spends more time driving it than I do! Usually sporting bike racks on the roof but when clean, looks like this......

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Posted : 05/12/2010 8:12 pm
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Very nice! Now firmly the 2nd worst snow car.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 8:14 pm
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^^^^

Stonking car!

Much more subtle than the M5 styling, but just enough that if you know your cars then you would do a double-take.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 8:24 pm
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Maserati 3200GT. RWD, 370bhp, turbo lag, overly-sensitive throttle and "difficult" chassis.

It's stayed on the drive throughout...


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 8:28 pm
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Two silver Golfs; one with winter tyres, one without. But which is which (clue the one in the ditch is the without)? 🙂

Wouldn't mind so much if my mate hadn't spent the whole night in the pub banging on about his new tyres the night before. There was no snow at that point so he was getting it fairly tight. Very impressive though, hill starts, full steerage, no fuss. Mine on the other hand...

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Standing about wondering what to do next...

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Wouldn't know how bad my car is in the snow - RWD, fat tyres, auto and loads of torque - meant is stayed on the drive. Our old citroen (skinny tyres, fwd, log wheelbase) was great.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 9:02 pm
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my last car was a Mk5 golf gti with the older style Eagle F1's on the front - It was actually worse in the snow than my current car - BMW 318 tourer ...............and that is saying something !


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 9:10 pm
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1959 Morris Minor.
Terrible tyres.
No synchromesh
No seatbelts
Wipers are inefectual to say the least
as are the lights.
Not sure the trafficators can be seen through snow either


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 9:32 pm
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Fiat Punto mk2

But then its a piece of shit regardless of the weather


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 9:39 pm
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Here is mine just as it started to snow last year

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Posted : 05/12/2010 10:02 pm
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Hmmm - I'd have thought that wide tyres would be good in the snow.


 
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Anjs - AMG SLK55? Nippy motors. Bit small for MTBs though...!


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 10:12 pm
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Currently have a 330d which is not brilliant in the snow as you would expect but being a diesel and with DSC its not as bad as my last car which was an E36 M3 saloon. 320bhp with a limited slip diff meant both wheels span in the snow and it got stuck with a ridiculous small amount of snow.


 
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My wifes BMW 1 utter crap in the snow!


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 10:17 pm
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Yes well spotted, no chance of getting an MTB in so thats why I have a boring Civic


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 10:18 pm
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Someone was abusing the MX-5. We have an MX-5 Mk2.5 SVT engine, which I drove through the snow in previous winters (OK not quite as impressive as this year). Low grip but great balance and very predictable, not a problem in the snow really, you just had to accept that you would be sliding all the time and it was up to you to decide what direction you were going to slide in.

Someone else was bemoaning a Mini Cooper S, presumably the BMW one. I had the Cooper and that was fine.

My wife's A3 diesel on the other hand is pretty poor.


 
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What's that? Looks like a CLS drophead, but they don't make one?


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 10:37 pm
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I have an e60/61 525d touring. Somewhat terrifying in the snow. Nearly slid it into a rangeover turning a corner at 10mph. Any suggestions re: winter tyres?


 
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I know one thing for certain - there doesn't seem to be a recession in the MTB World at the moment.

😯


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 10:45 pm
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Well mine goes back in Feb


 
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Looking at the sills on that CLS just make you wince. Nicely crushed by the bricks. Probably some bling wheels now on a C200cdi "AMG" 😀 BTW It's just a vinyl roof - they didn't make a convertible.


 
Posted : 05/12/2010 10:55 pm
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I have a BMW 318 touring with 17's and no heater currently, therefore I fail on comfort, reliability, vision and control.


 
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this is OK when the snow comes, very rarely gets stuck, got stuck on the M6 in july one time though, plenty room in the back for wife and kids and the all important bikes!


 
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106 gti. 1.6 135 bhp go kate (coke can) is fine in the snow if you dont go over 1000 rpm otherwise it wheel spins in 1st 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th and you end up doing 139mph sitting still. power to wait ratio of a straight 6 bmw 325 thats race toned with lsd and tsc. 🙂


 
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