[Closed] Which of you knew there was a public consultation on Daylight savings time ?

I knew about, and took part in the survey but I live in France. I suspect this was largely ignored in the UK because of that other legislative change that's been keeping the UK/EU busy that would also mean it wouldn't be an issue (or at least no more or less than all the other directives we'd have to choose to keep or change).

I’ve been kept in the dark about this.

It was all over the newspapers in Spain.

I’ve been kept in the dark about this.

The aptly named OP is here to shine some light on the subject, I'm sure.

I wondered why I hadn't heard about this and then it dawned on me.

I wonder if it is beginning to dawn on people what they are missing out on?

(Did not see it in Sweden, but then I didn't really make a point of searching for it and don' watch TV)

I set my alarm so as to register my vote - but missed it.

I knew about it, typically this government are so far up thier own arses to actually notify anyone in the UK.

Typical.

And didn’t the last time it was mooted, all the returns were only from Old Folks Homes and Hospitals and the services??

Typical.

News to me 🤔🤔

But the percentage of respondents was amazing according to the radio

UK 0.02%
Germany 80%

However well meaning it is really an anti-EU own goal at the moment
"Brussels Steals Greenwich Mean Time"

Just checked some numbers from the site linked there of a sample of 40000 results shows that in that one file there were 33114 responses from Germany and 73 from the UK !

I replied to it.

There's an hour of my life I won't get back.

Didn’t know about it. Wish we could get rid of it though.

would be much better to stay on summer time all year round

I knew about it, but didn't respond because I'm fairly ambivalent about it to be honest... are we still allowed to be ambivalent about anything political these days? 🙂

Yup knew about it didn't bother to respond. It simply means each EU state can choose to stick with the daylight savings time or scrap it.

would be much better to stay on summer time all year round

Yeah... it’d be great if it was still dark at 10 in the morning in the middle of winter. ☹️

would be much better to stay on summer time all year round

+1.

Or GMT+2 in summer, and BST in winter.

Yeah… it’d be great if it was still dark at 10 in the morning in the middle of winter.

It makes not the slightest difference how you fiddle with the clocks - there are still only 7-8 hours of daylight in the middle of winter. Leave for work in the dark, get home in the dark. Play around with the clocks twice a year to satisfy those who still think the blitz is on.

Or GMT+2 in summer, and BST in winter.

And light until 1-00am in summer, sounds brilliant!

I’m surprised this consultation ever saw the light of day.

Nope, never heard of it...

Yep, it's been in the papers over the last year or so discussing this.

I'd guess the reason there has been no UK publicity is because HMG expects us to be out of the EU hence it would be irrelevant to the UK.

Yep, it’s been in the papers over the last year or so discussing this.

But nobody reads newspapers anymore.

But nobody reads newspapers anymore.

Except all of those who do e.g. The Guardian website has 7 million visits per day....

I had no idea about the poll. I wish they'd stick with either GMT or BST and not change them.

Hmm, GMT +2 in the summer and BST in the winter? Let's see, that's CET isn't it?

I believe that the Daily Mail are keen on this which is rather ironic.

there are still only 7-8 hours of daylight in the middle of winter.

Or less than 6 in some places.

Latitude matters.

Clearly Perchy is one of the half dozen farmers and folk that live in the extreme north (anything above Manchester) that still takes issue with this.

Latitude matters

It does.
It also depends who's headlining 😉

It’s cause I don’t have a window in my office.

Five months of darkness every year.

I really should change that lightbulb.

Or less than 6 in some places.
Latitude matters.

😀 When I said 7-8 hours, I was looking at Aberdeen's figures for December, so you really are talking a long way north? Fwiw, even here in South Wales it feels like only 6 hours daylight in mid-winter, but that's weather not darkness!

Svalbard innit.

Or Lerwick.

Try the Shetland islands (Scalloway) for lack of daylight in winter, but the simmer makes up for it.

I'm not too bothered when it is I just would rather it didn't change, takes me a good fortnight to readjust each time.

But the percentage of respondents was amazing according to the radio

UK 0.02%
Germany 80%

I think the fact is that 80% of Germans who responded wanted the change done away with.

I read in a French paper, in a poll 84% said they would like to see the back of it.

Seems like a backward step on the face of it

takes me a good fortnight to readjust each time.

Ay?

It takes my body/head a good fortnight to adjust to the new time. I.E. I'm knackered and out of sync. Not a fortnight to adjust my clocks.

i thought the decision had already been made.  Runs off to check

edit: Looks like the vote was to scrap it but we still get to choose which time we stick on

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/04/meps-vote-to-scrap-switch-from-summer-to-winter-time

It simply means each EU state can choose to stick with the daylight savings time or scrap it.

That's what I read, and initially I thought it mean each state could choose to keep changing the clocks, or keep them them the same all year - but it actually means each state can choose whether to be on all year winter time or all year summer time, ie, decide which time zone to be in - and nobody in the EU will change between winter and summer.

Whether we're still in the EU by then or not, I think the UK will end up following suit - but will we choose GMT or BST?

The rest of the world is looking at this as well, not just Europe. All the swapping around causes all sorts of international confusion… that's the prompt for this… nothing to do with local inconveniences.

will we choose GMT or BST?

BST please (but then I'm south of the border).

https://www.timeanddate.com/time/australia/time-zones-background.html

can we please just stick to one system and set of dates please!! I thought I was done with all this!!

Whether we’re still in the EU by then or not, I think the UK will end up following suit – but will we choose GMT or BST?

Agree and I also hope it's BST. BST would be life changing for me in a positive way, dozens more post work evenings of useable outdoor life. GMT would be catastrophic, outside of mid-summer evenings would be spent largely doing unhealthy boring inside stuff.

Hmm, GMT +2 in the summer and BST in the winter? Let’s see, that’s CET isn’t it?

That's just another advantage AFAIC. It's nice at the moment on weekends in Mainland Europe to get a free hour on the way out but that comes at the expense of losing an hours usable outside time every working day of my life.

When Scotland is independent, we'll have Scottish Summer Time all year round.

It'll be wonderful! Nearly 24 hours of daylight all year round and perpetual sunshine.

Sounds great.

That's how it works isn't it? 🙂

Pardon me for asking but what the hell has one countries times got to do with anothers anyway? Now I can see an element of sense in not being a million miles out if there is business to be done but surely the numbers on a clock mean sod all? We some how strangely manage to communicate with Australia don't we? I still go to work as its gets light in March. If the clock says 6 or 11 does it matter? Nope.
Practically speaking I would like to move the clocks a long way in the winter so that it was still light at 7 or 8pm. Its either dark or damn close when the world starts to move anyway, in the winter, at the moment. Kids are in school and few of them actually toddle off down unlit country lanes by themselves to get there. Most people work inside and those who don't have enough sense to ignore the clock and work when its light. Can't see real problems for most people if it was still dark until 10am.