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I live in Bristol and can understand the issue with the house prices. I would recommend Leeds (where I'm from) or Sheffield. I always find Manchester too sprawly - seems to take ages to get out of the city.
The other alternative would be to buy a house in Newport and commute into Bristol - handy for Cwm Carn and the Forest of Dean.
A little smaller than Cardiff, obviously, but Swansea is great. Gower on doorstep, great beaches and good riding (road) and with trail centres and natural stuff pretty nearby. I'd hate to move back to Cardiff now. Fairly bereft of culture though if that's your bag.
Carlisle is not too bad, esp if you want the outdoors life
Lakes, dumgal 7stanes, Glentress all within 1h - cheap too
There's not very good job opportunities in Swansea, Carlisle and Lancaster.
Have a good look around. I wasn't taken with Sheffield at all.
Leeds seems to tick a lot of your boxes.
I'd still go for Edinburgh though
Isnt Edinburgh very expensive too?
I relocated to Stockport 2 years ago and it's the best thing I've ever done. Massive station so anywhere in country within 2 hours.
Peak District on Doorstep, an hour from Grizedal, Cannock, Llandegla.
5 mins on train to Manchester and the town itself is under a massive redevelopment and the old town is like a mini York/Chester.
Mackem - Member
Isnt Edinburgh very expensive too?
If it was me and I worked in engineering* and had a job in Edinburgh** i'd get a place in Peebles***
*I do
**I do
*** I did
I'll have a pint of what Jonny's on...5 mins on train to Manchester and the town itself is under a massive redevelopment and the old town is like a mini York/Chester.
Agree though the Manchester environs are a good bet - a ton of excellent riding around 3/4 of the city. Plus the SW direction where there's no mountain biking is great for road riding.
Assuming you've never been to the Old Town? It's actually really nice.
I know Stockport well - there's potential but it's buried under 50 years of bad planning and, latterly, neglect. It is an enormous project - ten years away if they started tomorrow. The Merseyway deserves to be torn down by an angry mob, as a starting point.
Sad to see how the surrounding suburbs have overtaken Stockport, when historically it is the focal point of the S Manchester region.
Alehouses are good, mind.
Already started the redevelopment of some of the poorer parts of the town, then 65m project over Grand Central.
I moved to Huddersfield 1.5 years ago from Norfolk, my take on the local cities.
Leeds - nice city, good bars & restaurants etc with plenty going on. Locationally its ok, but the peaks i.e. ladybower is a good drive. Dales is closer but tbh ive yet to find any half decent riding compared to Pennines or Peaks.
Sheffield - compared to Leeds its not as good, wouldnt want to live in Sheffield but it is easy to get to Peaks, however anywhere else is longer drive i.e. dales, pennines, wales etc.
Manchester - loacationally best placed for getting to the hotspots around the country, if you live stalybridge or stockport way getting to peaks is easy and hayfield is really close with some top riding. Manchester is a great night out too, loads of decent places to eat and drink and again like leeds loads going on but it is ridiculously busy and takes an eternity to drive out of.
Personally if it was me, I'd stay in Huddersfield. Dead easy to get to leeds and manchester on the regular transpennines trains for the bars and restaurants. Has the much less touristy north peaks on the doorstep and its not half as busy as the cities.
Whereabouts in Hudds though?
Manchester. Busy, metropolitan, fairly big, cheaper than the South, plenty going on, close to the Peaks and Yorkshire. I heard there's a job opening for a gangster.
Thanks a lot for all your help
[i]Crime is rife in Manchester[/i]
Heard at the weekend, as we watched a stunning sunset in Pembrokeshire.
Small child, "Mum, we need to pick the bags up"
Their bags were on the bench behind them.
Mum, "We're in in West Wales, not Manchester"
giant565 - Member
There's not very good job opportunities in Swansea, Carlisle and Lancaster.
All depends on your aspirations/work/life balance 💡
@24 you still have a lot of life experience to gain... 😕
Buying a house? You don't have much in the way of ambition unless it is buy to let.
Accrington takes some beating
I moved to Manchester a few years back. The pros are:
Good riding within 1-2 hours drive (N Wales, Peaks, Lakes, Gisburn).
Good links to M6 if you need to travel a lot with work.
Reasonable house costs (if you avoid Didsbury/Chorlton).
Lots to do in the City socially.
The cons:
The traffic is murder, particularly the M60 at pretty much any time you'd want to drive on it.
The city isn't much to look at.
Your car insurance will cost a lot more (mine doubled, but I was in Oxfordshire previously).
The tram system was good in the 1st year I moved here, but since then there has been so much work been going on that it's become rubbish. The delays and changes to service have become so frequent that my exercise-averse girlfriend has taken up cycling to work to avoid them!
Overall I like living here, but I don't love it. But then I'm Scottish so anywhere south of the border is probably not going to cut it!
Sheffield is a great place *but* getting to anywhere in the West (e.g. Wales) is a ballache. Manchester suburbs also have good access to the Peak but are a lot closer to Wales, the Lakes etc.
West side of sheffield, north side of leeds, north side of bradford, anywhere in Halifax area are probalbly best options if you don't want to move further north.
Newport for the win, close to Cardiff and Bristol, friendly locals, great pubs and nightlife, good riding right from the doorstep its ticks all the boxes*
Some of this description may be inaccurate
Also look at Stoke, Doncaster etc.
Stoke and Doncaster?! Why not add Rotherham to the list while you're at it?
The traffic is murder, particularly the M60 at pretty much any time you'd want to drive on it.
The city isn't much to look at.
Your car insurance will cost a lot more
The traffic is nowt compared to parts of Yorkshire - around the network near Bradford/Leeds etc? Even on minorish roads at peak times in other parts it can be congested. I often think where have all these people been/going to - theres nothing of note there!
The city isn't much to look at- agree but then thats the same with most identikit cities that saw some bombing.
Ah car insurance. I have 10yrs NCD- my car insurance is £450. Enter all the same details but a Huddersfield postcode and its £260.
I'm a Brummy and tempting though it is to recommend it, I won't, mainly for fear of ridicule. It does fit all your needs though...
Anyway, offering an impartial view of the main places mentioned:
Manchester - Great city but it's either a pain to get out of as you're central or a pain to get in to as you're not. No for me.
Leeds - Another great city but you are in the North here and depending on the location of your friends, family, etc. this could be a problem.
Sheffield - I'm not that taken with the city in truth but the riding is good and the hills are close, if you find the right part of the city that could work.
A curve ball, Derby. Easy to get to the hills, good job prospects, quite a nice place to live and, as it is Midlands ish, still gives you lots of options to get to other parts of the country. If I ever wanted to move from Brum (though, why would I?) it'd be on my list.
Exeter is a good shout - Haldon for quick after work cheeky loops. Dartmoor for more and climbing. Lovely beaches within an hour. Exmoor with a little more effort, Quantocks too.
I like Birmingham- couldn't live there though. Too far to decent trails or even road riding.
The thing with Sheffield (if you live in the right bit of it) is that you have some of the very best riding on your doorstep.
So although 30 mins drive for a ride seems very short and doable, once you have can ride from your front door you very quickly lose any appetite for putting your bike in the car to go anywhere else. If you also ride on the road this is even more true, every ride can be on counrty lanes despite you living 10 mins from the centre of one of the largest cities in the UK.
Also if you are into climbing as well the Sheffield is a no brainer.
And Engineering. It's like you were made for the place.
The only thing that would stop me would be if I had to travel west regularly during rush hour or daytime at the weekends. Normally it's a pleasant drive, at peak hours a nightmare. Central Manc is OK though as there is a direct train.
Quick blast after work anyone?
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I'm an engineer not a prostitute haha
Glasgow - loads of jobs in Shipbuilding in Scotstoun/Govan.
Why not just move a bit further outside of Bristol? House prices drop pretty rapidly once you're a few miles out
Why not look for the right job first, as that's what you'll be doing for 40 hours per week. Then move & rent somewhere local & investigate the area.
You may find that wages are lower in areas with cheaper housing, so bear that in mind.
Also worth thinking a few years ahead to a time when you might settle and have kids, therefore you need to consider what accent they would pick up.
Obviously that rules out Manchester, Liverpool and Birmingham.
Stay in Bristol and live in one of the cheaper areas.
Sheffield is great for biking and climbing. Some great pubs and bars, with local breweries all around. There's heaps of high tech industry closeby, in part due to the good local universities. Sheffield is a bit like 7 towns bolted together, so it feels quite quaint for it's size.
I'm looking to move back to the UK and Sheffield is number 1 on my list. However, my missus was more impressed by Leeds and Liverpool, because they feel like bigger cities.
Which city/towns around Manchester, Leeds and Sheffield would be a similar size to Exeter?
Thanks
My eldest thankfully only has a slight Cardiff accent, but unfortunately she has started saying 'I done' instead of 'I did'...
Being completely biased I'd say Leeds/Huddersfield/Sheffield would be great.
But... I've been spending quite a bit of time down in Nottingham recently. I've no idea what the riding is like but I know there are a lot of companies based there I could easily move to (not so sure about engineering) and it seems on the face of it, a really nice place. And I've not been shot to death there once.
Stay in Bristol and live in one of the cheaper areas.
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Cardiff is good also, if you live somewhere easy to access the Taff Trail from.
Only downside to Cardiff, for me, is that the road riding isn't as good as some other places
Seriously?! For sheer variety of road riding I don't think I've lived anywhere better: quiet lanes in the Vale to the west/Flats to the east, all the climbing you can shake a stick at in The Valleys, Beacons/Monmouthshire/Wye Valley if you like quiet and picturesque.
I live in Cardiff but to buck the trend I'm going to say Sheffield. Or if not there, Cardiff 😉
I have lived and worked in much better places, so maybe I am spoiled.
The Vale - it's ok, but you have to cross Cardiff to get there unless you live out West. It's also hemmed in by towns.
The flats to the east - a few lanes - nothing.
Monmouthshire - nice, but you have to go through Newport which is a pain, and it makes the rides quite long and the first 10-15 miles is generally the same.
Wye valley - nice but a ride taking it in from Cardiff is a sodding long way! And you still have to go through Newport AGAIN...
The Valleys - some great climbs but a hell of a lot of busy bypasses, roundabouts and strip towns, and the lanes up there are a bit thrutchy, like MTBing on a road bike.
I've worked and hence ridden a lot in Surrey/Hampshire/Berkshire and once you're off the main routes you get as many miles as you can handle of deserted roads through bucolic beauty.. old woodland, waves of golden grain blowing in the wind, picture perfect village greens etc etc.. like I said the road riding from Cardiff is ok but not this good!
Mol you do have a unique view on things, crossing Cardiff is hardly a chore.
Plenty on the flats, St Brides into the Port then down to Goldcliffe and all the way to Chepstow/Severn Bridge. Wind can be a git though.
Valleys has all sorts of road riding, you need to get out and explore a bit, but it is all of 20 miles, that is a long way 😉
Which city/towns around Manchester, Leeds and Sheffield would be a similar size to Exeter?
Chesterfield? housing is probably cheaper there too and still close to the peaks, closer to white than dark but still lots of good riding.
Valleys has all sorts of road riding, you need to get out and explore a bit, but it is all of 20 miles, that is a long way
I've ridden plenty of it, trust me. I'm not saying there are no roads to ride, I'm saying that most of them aren't that much fun.. at least not compared to the places that are really good.