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Had my booster Saturday, needle noticeably more painful, which would be explained if the needle is bigger.

Everyone at the Covid clinic was masked up, everyone given a mask as they went in. Went to the GP surgery today for my flu jab, I was the only person in a mask, the staff looked at me like I was mad.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 10:36 pm
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I was about surprised at being given a mask on entry which I duly wore. Shame the guy who stuck the needle in my arm had his mask below his nose.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 10:38 pm
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Got boosterated the other day, flu jag in the other arm for maximum Mild Annoying Achiness.

(everyone was masked, I'd have been surprised otherwise- my gp surgery is still signed up to the brim and masks at the entrance and such so just about everyone wears one)


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 11:02 pm
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Boosted today. Am off to the US next week so wanted some antibodies on board before I go to a work conference. Now have almost a full set of Happy Families. Three different vaccines and three different strains of infection. I’m just missing Delta. And a functioning arm. And a functioning nose, but that’s probably gone for good after more than two years.

My stepfather had covid for the first time a week ago. He complained of a slightly scratchy throat. And that was it. When I had omicron I thought the front of my face was going to blow off. I still get sinusitis at the slightest hint of inflammation even now.

On the positive side, hospitalisations may have flattened, so preparing a way for flu.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 11:04 pm
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Had my booster Saturday, needle noticeably more painful, which would be explained if the needle is bigger.

I hate needles so didn’t look, but it was a painful jab for sure.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 11:22 pm
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Unfortunately, the Omicron variants are quite limited in the stimulus that they provide to your immune system going forward, much less than the vaccines or earlier variants. So a recent infection is unlikely to give you a decent 'boost'.
Tayside have appointments still available Sunday - Monday.


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 11:43 pm
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I got my booster, and the flu jag a couple of weeks ago, no pain and no side effects this time. I had them both in the same arm- why risk 2 sore arms?


 
Posted : 24/10/2022 11:56 pm
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My wife's just come off a call with the doctor.

She had covid back in April, with a lingering cough (a bloody annoying one for sure!), shortness of breath and occasional chest pain / dead arms feeling when exercising or walking up a hill.

I eventually got her to speak to the doc, and she's been going through tests for post viral asthma for a couple of months. Various inhalers didn't make any difference, still blowing about half 'normal' on puff tests.

Anyway, from this call she's now going to be checked for silent reflux. Symptoms are very similar to posters above, feeling like something in throat, coughing etc. So hopefully whatever treatment is prescribed will benefit this time.

The asthma doc (who has covid currently, as does her whole nursing team!) said there's so much they are seeing and don't understand from Covid which is quite worrying. Apparently various organs swelling, not just lungs, which causes all sort of side effects. They've got a lot to learn about it yet!


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 8:14 pm
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... there’s so much they are seeing and don’t understand from Covid which is quite worrying. Apparently various organs swelling...

So it's not all negative then?


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 8:27 pm
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In Queensland today we've just been told there's finally no requirement to wear masks in hospital settings.
Taking down any signs I walked past this morning was fun.
It's odd seeing all my colleagues faces.
I wonder how long before it all kicks off again.


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 11:56 pm
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Had my booster Saturday, needle noticeably more painful, which would be explained if the needle is bigger.

Everyone at the Covid clinic was masked up, everyone given a mask as they went in. Went to the GP surgery today for my flu jab, I was the only person in a mask, the staff looked at me like I was mad.

Had mine on Saturday, hurt like hell and knocked me for six over the weekend


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 12:55 am
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Oh just **** off will you, if this was talk in a pub and you piped in with such a statement along with your other views on show then I imagine you’d get shown the door in an entirely deserving prejudicial fashion


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 1:10 am
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Yeah, but they wouldn't go in a pub. That's where all the lizards meet ... or something.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 1:21 am
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In Queensland today we’ve just been told there’s finally no requirement to wear masks in hospital settings

In WA we are still wearing them in the office. I say "wearing".... Mine's on my chin and most aren't wearing them properly or the fit-checked n95's just the paper surgical masks. Utterly pointless. But them's the rules.

(Was odd coming back to work after 6 months in Europe, back to wearing masks again).


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 2:35 am
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Bivalent covid and flu jab yesterday afternoon. Had to put a mask on to enter the vaccination centre. Arbroath.

The covid jab was actually burning and stinging for a couple of hours! Just a sore/achy arm over night this morning otherwise feel ok, though I'm still in bed 😂

A friend and his wife were a bit yucky for a day or two after theirs, and my daughter said she's not looking forward to hers as a number of her nurse colleagues have been ill after it.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 8:24 am
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An interesting piece about new Omicron strains, https://theconversation.com/omicron-bq-1-and-bq-1-1-an-expert-answers-three-key-questions-about-these-new-covid-variants-192873
The links within the article are worth a look too


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 9:22 am
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Your willingness to censor/cancel 'trolls' (those with an alternate viewpoint) is the reason humanity is in such a mess.

Truth does not fear inquiry. Only tyrants do.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 10:27 am
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I had 4th Covid jab in my right arm, flu in my left last Thursday evening. Felt slightly below par on Friday, but nothing that really stopped me doing anything. Fine on Saturday. Still can't connect to any wireless devices, and Bill Gates hasn't been telling me to do anything. I don't think. As far as I know I've never had Covid, despite having lots of it around me, but I did go to a gig on Sunday in a very hot and crowded basement venue, so this might be my chance.


 
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As far as I know I’ve never had Covid, despite having lots of it around me...snip

Scientists are trying to work out if "novids" are either unaware of infection, lucky or genetically-advantaged https://www.cbsnews.com/news/novid-covid-coronavirus-coronavirus-genetic/


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 10:40 am
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genetically-advantaged

I know a few people who having dodged it for two years have convinced themselves that they were genetically immune. Quite a few of them have recently had their first bout, so I'm just considering myself lucky for now.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 10:44 am
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Booster sat lunchtime, no masks required but seen more people wearing them out & about, absolutely wiped out all weekend, needed 11.5hrs in bed Sunday night to recover.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 10:52 am
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Yeh, neither me, nor my wife and son have knowingly had it. We've had some illness that we'd not have been surprised if we had had it, but never tested positive on lfts.

Kids in my son's class have had it and he's still not tested positive. We put his super powers down to the 'manky blanky' he's had from being a toddler dragging around everywhere and still has with him in his bedroom (now 15!)


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 10:56 am
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Had booster and flu a couple of weeks ago. No reaction. So lucky. First ever jab left me a bit 'wooly' for two days but since then, nothing but a slightly sore arm. Very happy to have the booster having seen three of my (hadn't had it before) friends get it on hols and all being pretty grim for a week or so.

Wife has hers on Saturday, last three have wiped her out so fingers crossed.

Masks at our surgery were optional (both for Covid and for normal appts) but if you're going to be in a clinical setting where there are sick/vulnerable people why wouldn't you? It's hardly an imposition is it?


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 10:59 am
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Your willingness to censor

I suspect that your post was removed because dismissing Covid 19 as "the sniffles" might be considered a bit offensive to people who have lost loved ones to Covid or have had their lives crippled by long Covid.

If you think that removing crass insensitive comments from stw is "the reason humanity is in such a mess" you have got some weird thinking going on inside your head.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 11:00 am
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It’s the jab that’s harming people. Don’t say you weren’t warned.

Proof? By which I mean actual facts not rumour or anecdotal.


 
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I suspect that your post was removed because dismissing Covid 19 as “the sniffles” might be considered a bit offensive to people who have lost loved ones to Covid or have had their lives crippled by long Covid.

The problem is you are believing corrupt politicians, profiteering pharma companies and doctors who work for both these entities.

Proof? By which I mean actual facts not rumour or anecdotal.

There is plenty of proof if you only look for it. The trouble is you dismiss anything not sanctioned by the above because you do not think for yourself.

Start here  https://off-guardian.org/2022/10/28/covid-19-a-universe-of-questions-in-a-time-of-universal-deceit/


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 11:16 am
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Addressing people like this - is it an approach you find successful?


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 11:18 am
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Start here> https://off-guardian.org/2022/10/28/covid-19-a-universe-of-questions-in-a-time-of-universal-deceit/

You expect anyone of sound mind to take that load of drivel seriously


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 11:36 am
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@veganrider I'm also unvaxxed and, whilst I agree with some of your points, it isn't helpful by being so combative by deriding choices that others made in good faith. I'd rather see folk contacting their MP to ask them to support Sir Christopher Chope who's doing sterling work for the vaccine-injured. They are being let down by the government and need specialist help, ie vaccine-injured clinics, of which there is nothing available in the NHS.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 11:49 am
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The thing I never understand is the conspiracy theorist's desperate need to have their thoughts validated for them by other people that don't share their beliefs.

It's weird


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 11:53 am
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There is plenty of proof if you only look for it. The trouble is you dismiss anything not sanctioned by the above because you do not think for yourself.

@veganrider

I am getting fed up of your aggressive, dismissive and personal slating of anyone who holds a different view of the world to you.

Make the argument, stop attacking the individual (and it seems, the majority of the world around you) for being 'wrong'. They simply hold a different view to you.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 11:57 am
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There is plenty of proof if you only look for it. The trouble is you dismiss anything not sanctioned by the above because you do not think for yourself.

Start here  https://off-guardian.org/2022/10/28/covid-19-a-universe-of-questions-in-a-time-of-universal-deceit/

I'm thinking for myself, and I think that link is utter bollocks. It displays levels of ignorance and paranoia that I am very glad I'm not often exposed to. Absolutely batshit crazy. I wonder what people's real motivation is for writing stuff like that, and I wonder if the author actually believes a word of it?


 
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I am getting fed up of your aggressive, dismissive and personal slating of anyone who holds a different view of the world to you.

Make the argument, stop attacking the individual (and it seems, the majority of the world around you) for being ‘wrong’. They simply hold a different view to you.

Dry your eyes and stop making things up.
You must have quoted the wrong post surely?

There's nothing aggressive or personal about the post you quoted. You don't see the irony in your reply either do you? You are the aggressor here and a massive hypocrite too. Get over yourself.


 
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Had my booster yesterday - I can't say it was any more painful than any other injection I have ever had. My arm is a bit sore today but that's the same as with the previous covid jabs. And back again on Friday for my flu jab.


 
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I’d rather see folk contacting their MP to ask them to support Sir Christopher Chope

If this is the same bloke - he seems like a nice sensible chap! 😬😬

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/08/tory-mp-who-blocked-upskirting-bill-halts-fgm-protection-law-christopher-chope


 
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If you find yourself on the same side of any argument as the Rt Hon Christopher Chope MP, that would be the time to re-evaluate your choices and opinions.


 
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Apart from being in favour of upskirting, the one thing you can rely on Chope for is being wrong. Consistently and about everything. Look at his record:

he voted against making it illegal to discriminate on the basis of caste
he voted against the publication of a gender equality strategy to improve the position of women
he was absent from a vote on the Human Rights Act in 1998, but he turned up in 2016 to vote in favour of repealing it.
he voted against a reduction of the age of consent for gay sex to 16, a move intended to bring it into line with heterosexual sex, while in 2003 he voted to retain Section 28
he voted against same-sex marriage – five times
he voted against allowing the courts to deal with same-sex divorce
he objected to the second reading of the Alan Turing (Statutory Pardon) Bill
he voted for the war in Iraq as well as for military action against Isis in Iraq and Syria
he voted not only to Leave the EU in the referendum but against all efforts at closer integration and for triggering Article 50.
he voted against an effort to guarantee the right to remain of EU nationals already in the country before the Brexit vote
he voted in favour of the bedroom tax
he rejected the mansion tax higher capital gains tax and an effort to tax bankers’ bonuses
he has opposed measures designed to prevent climate change and supported culling badgers and selling England’s forests
he has either voted against or been absent in all votes to ban smoking in public premises
he voted against making it an offence for someone in charge of an enclosed vehicle to fail to prevent smoking within it if someone under 18 is present
he has always voted against the hunting ban or efforts to restrict hunting

So I'm not sure I'd really trust him to pick the right side in this debate either.


 
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There is plenty of proof if you only look for it. The trouble is you dismiss anything not sanctioned by the above because you do not think for yourself.

Start here> https://off-guardian.org/2022/10/28/covid-19-a-universe-of-questions-in-a-time-of-universal-deceit/

I just took the time to read that.

There is absolutely nothing new in there at all. Simple denial of the pandemic and assertions that the "pseudopandemic" as they put it, was to give governments control over us.

Frankly its boring.
You don't want the vaccination? Fine. You haven't been made to.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 12:22 pm
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Apart from being in favour of upskirting, the one thing you can rely on Chope for is being wrong. Consistently and about everything. Look at his record:

he voted against making it illegal to discriminate on the basis of caste
he voted against the publication of a gender equality strategy to improve the position of women
he was absent from a vote on the Human Rights Act in 1998, but he turned up in 2016 to vote in favour of repealing it.
he voted against a reduction of the age of consent for gay sex to 16, a move intended to bring it into line with heterosexual sex, while in 2003 he voted to retain Section 28
he voted against same-sex marriage – five times
he voted against allowing the courts to deal with same-sex divorce
he objected to the second reading of the Alan Turing (Statutory Pardon) Bill
he voted for the war in Iraq as well as for military action against Isis in Iraq and Syria
he voted not only to Leave the EU in the referendum but against all efforts at closer integration and for triggering Article 50.
he voted against an effort to guarantee the right to remain of EU nationals already in the country before the Brexit vote
he voted in favour of the bedroom tax
he rejected the mansion tax higher capital gains tax and an effort to tax bankers’ bonuses
he has opposed measures designed to prevent climate change and supported culling badgers and selling England’s forests
he has either voted against or been absent in all votes to ban smoking in public premises
he voted against making it an offence for someone in charge of an enclosed vehicle to fail to prevent smoking within it if someone under 18 is present
he has always voted against the hunting ban or efforts to restrict hunting

So I’m not sure I’d really trust him to pick the right side in this debate either.

Thanks for that - I always thought he was chopper, NOW I know he is!


 
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I just took the time to read that.

I admire your fortitude.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 1:21 pm
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I'm currently positive (just about to turn 50 but not had second booster yet).

This one is the worse, as well as the normal flu like symptoms, I get out of breath just talking. If I walk anywhere I am knackered and breathless after seconds...last week I was walking miles over several Wainwrights in the Lakes.

As above, I don't give a **** if you don't want the vaccine, just don't bang on about it. It's as boring as those people that tell you they are vegan.


 
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I've had C19. It's sh1t. It's way worse than the sniffles. Knocked me flat for 10 days & left me with PVF for 10 wks barely able to get up & down the stairs. I'll take my chances with the jab. You're welcome to your opinion as I am to mine but to mock & sneer doesn't help anyone. Yes, I'm aware that you are the recipient of similar treatment - the big difference being my justifications & reasonings are backed up by overwhelming factual data. Your's? Less so...


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 1:39 pm
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The problem is you are believing corrupt politicians, profiteering pharma companies and doctors who work for both these entities.

No.

The problem - the actual problem here - is that this is your starting gambit and it is false. Therefore, any house that you subsequently build will be shit, because it's built on top of shit. You could build the next Empire State Building or Taj Mahal or York Cathedral or Willis Tower and it would be a work of art but it would still be shit, because the ground beneath is brown and malodorous.

Politicians are corrupt. We know this. We don't believe them. This is not a startling revelation.

"Big Pharma" is problematic also, again no-one is denying this. Ben Goldacre's book "Bad Pharma" is an excellent read if you want an eye-opening insight into just how corrupt and self-serving your "profiteering pharma companies" are. Honestly, you'll love it.

But. Critically. Just because these things are true doesn't mean you get to backfill the gaps with whatever Bacofoil-hat conspiracy fantasy bollocks pops into your mind. They does not give your argument greater credence.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 1:56 pm
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Veganrider

As a Moderator I’m politely asking you to tone down your conspiracy nonsense on this thread.

Thanks.


 
Posted : 01/11/2022 9:24 pm
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These were the two main drivers of the plandemic.

The pandemic happened. Full stop. How we responded to it, politically, socially, and medically is a big area of debate. But that it happened is not.


 
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