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Its a covid (and all the rest) conspiracy thing MCTD, popped up on a local FB page organizing.... standing about in a park.


 
Posted : 02/07/2022 10:14 pm
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Ah - all gone very quiet on that front round here. Most folk are at the "we've just got to learn to live with it" stage.

Having lived with it for 9 days personally, the novelty soon wears off.


 
Posted : 02/07/2022 11:16 pm
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I tested positive for the first time two weeks ago.
Fortunately despite 1 day of having a persistent cough I had almost no other symptoms… except - I got the most crazy mouth ulcers I have ever had. Two weeks later and I am still struggling with eating and drinking although I think I’m over the worst of it.


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 9:52 am
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Day 10 - negative test.

I'm going out out!


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 9:57 am
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Tested positive for the first time today. Symptoms are cold like - aches, night sweats, sore throat, runny nose. Symptoms started on Friday, tested on Saturday but the test was a dud so tested again this morning.

I think I know where I got it, brother in law's funeral on Wednesday. 100 people in a church belting out hymns. Either that or my daughter brought it back from the Harry Styles concert.

I'm hoping that the symptoms stay mild. Thank goodness for vaccines.


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 10:06 am
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I got the most crazy mouth ulcers I have ever had.

That’s interesting. I’m prone to mouth ulcers when I’m run down and have two appeared behind my top lip over the last two days and just assumed it was becuase I’m below par.

On the plus side, I felt slightly better yesterday and slept 8 straight hours last night and feeling remarkably better today, achieving a massive +60 overnight on Garmins body battery with my resting HR dropping by 10 to 52 bpm. Hopefully then I’m on the road to recovery. I’ll test later to see if I can stop isolating in one room at home, although it’s possibly a little early for that.


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 10:28 am
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Getting to the stage where BA.4/5 rises are making me question a non-essential multi train journey of 6+ hours each way this coming week, no tickets bought yet. National Express isn't much longer on the outward leg albeit unsocial travelling times, but the return leg is 10+ hours via London!

Stupidly did just a single lft the other week when feeling rough which was negative, family I was hoping to see had something very fatiguing around same time, but after a mostly ill health free '22 so far I don't particularly fancy testing how much my 7 month booster has waned and potentially infecting my retired mum who has minimised mingling since the pandemic began.


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 2:38 pm
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I got the most crazy mouth ulcers I have ever had.

That’s interesting. I’m prone to mouth ulcers when I’m run down and have two appeared behind my top lip over the last two days and just assumed it was becuase I’m below par.

Nah, that's just the monkeypox.


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 2:48 pm
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Jeez, considering my move toward recovery I’ve just tested with the thickest positive line I’ve ever seen!


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 6:33 pm
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Same @kryton57 - felt a lot better but the liquid had barely got out of the tube before the mark came up, And it ended up very thick indeed. Been very lucky with symptoms, sinus mostly gone, bit of a tickly cough, bit achy and feel a bit asthmatic but otherwise main issue is boredom 😉


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 6:38 pm
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Utterly confused by the latest isolation guidelines. Looking at the Scottish rules it says 5 days from first symptoms, which for me would be last Wednesday.

There appears to be nothing about having to do a negative test at the end of those 5 days to confirm being clear.

Is this because they're basically not giving out free tests anymore, or because it's likely that they now believe you're no longer contagious after 5 days?


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 8:47 pm
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The theory is that most people won't pass on infection after five days provided you don't have symptoms. You can go out during that time for exercise, etc but must be careful, mask, alone, etc
You should stay away from vulnerable people for 10 days; five days is ok, until it isn't


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 9:09 pm
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Jeez, considering my move toward recovery I’ve just tested with the thickest positive line I’ve ever seen!

Same here. 🙄, day 10 today and still showing +, but I'm back to work tomorrow, I'll be taking extra precautions, mask etc.

Anybody else gone longer than 10 days and still showing a + test?

I'm assuming the 10 day + result is just the final bit of the stuff getting out of my system and that I am no longer contagious?


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 9:15 pm
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A friend first tested negative on Day 12.

I tested negative today on Day 10, so I'll be back in the office


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 9:46 pm
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Yes if you read just 1 page back I was still testing solid positive day 13…. Only have a few tests left so I stopped so that I have some spare for next time

I was back at work day 5/6 no one caught it from me wasn’t overly close to people but still in the same office/area


 
Posted : 03/07/2022 10:34 pm
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The rules are indeed strange and rapid tests should be available imo.

There is no provisions made for people (like myself) who feel well enough for work, don’t display classic symptoms but do test positive.

According to the rules I should have gone to work. Informed my line manager I was positive and he told me to stay away.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 9:30 am
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https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/when-to-self-isolate-and-what-to-do/

Says if you have symptoms OR test positive you should stay at home.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 9:39 am
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As I understand it, Omicron is more of an Upper Respiratory infection, so I suppose thats where strong concentrations of the virus will be found, hence strong positive lines. I also believe LFTs cant distinguish between live and dead virus.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 10:31 am
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I might well be wrong, but I thought I'd read BA.4 and 5 variants had reverted back to the pre-Omicron location of deep within the lungs.

UK Covid is being downplayed massively now, including just weekly stats released from the .gov site, when these two variants are bucking the summer trends and giving high population levels of positives despite the lack of free tests and relatively low level of testing.

Even the NHS are about to revert to standard absence procedure and dumping special Covid sick policy.

Still no obvious sign of another booster date for non-vulnerable under 75s, now almost seven months since my last booster aged 48.

Concerning times.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 12:19 pm
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Well it took over two years and a few months for me to catch it, but the lack of any current protocols and a village shop full of infectious farmers a couple weeks ago saw me in bed for a week and staffing the shop. Hi likelihood my wife who is in the most vulnerable cat. Has also no caught it. Thankfully from a financial pov we both didn't get it at the same time.

First few days I felt awful, headache, fever and blocked up. Thankfully I never had a severe cough or breathing issues - but it cirtainly knocked me harder than other viruses I've had in  the past. As for long Covid, I went out on the bike (now one week after testing negative) and although I have no fatigue issues, felt quite dissy....


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 12:38 pm
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Concerning times...

...if you're an obese nonagenarian or someone with health anxiety, maybe.

Meanwhile my fit 80 year old London based dad is getting on with life, planning summer jolly boy trips with his mates; and my 53 year old teacher sister, who tested +ve on Friday and feels, well, a bit cold-y, is teaching remotely from home for the next few days before she can go back in. I told her to sack it off completely and milk a few days sickleave like all the other malingerers, but her pride won't let her.

Me? Well, tonight's my one evening off this week because, as usual, I'm spending the others covering for the usual sicknotes. It's just like being a postie again! Think I'll go out on the hill for a bivi.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 12:42 pm
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like all the other malingerers

I know plenty of people ill and/or positive, and working from home. Whether you can work from home depends on your role and industry, of course. We need to get away from the idea that people are either "malingerers" or "super-spreaders"... this is what living with Covid looks like... stay away from your work colleagues (and fellow commuters) when you are likely to be contagious. Work from home if you can. If you're too ill, or have to be in the workplace to do anything, then it's sick leave time.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 12:50 pm
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Concerning times…

…if you’re an obese nonagenarian or someone with health anxiety, maybe.

Meanwhile my fit 80 year old London based dad is getting on with life, planning summer jolly boy trips with his mates; and my 53 year old teacher sister, who tested +ve on Friday and feels, well, a bit cold-y, is teaching remotely from home for the next few days before she can go back in. I told her to sack it off completely and milk a few days sickleave like all the other malingerers, but her pride won’t let her.

Me? Well, tonight’s my one evening off this week because, as usual, I’m spending the others covering for the usual sicknotes. It’s just like being a postie again! Think I’ll go out on the hill for a bivi.

Well if we're using personal anecdotes for guidance rather than national and global statistics...

My unbelievably fit 43 year old mate. Regular triathlete. Ran the Marathon De Sables a few times etc. Lean and shredded physique. Ran and cycled hundreds of miles a week. Caught covid in spring of last year. Absolutely devastated him. Can barely do any exercise now.

My missus' friend's husband. Caught it early in the first wave. Young, no known underlying health conditions. Spent months in hospital in a coma. Chest cracked open a couple of times for life saving surgery. Toes amputated.

Me. Cycled thousands of miles a year. Went to the gym 5 times a week. Raced the EWS last October. Caught covid in November and I've been absolutely ruined since then. Can hardly ride 10k without being floored for days. Zero history of any medical problems. Barely back to normal now just in time to test positive again last week.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 1:10 pm
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I have somehow managed to avoid Covid for the last couple of years but caught it last week. I was the last in my extended family other than my parents to get it. I think it was on a short shared car journey on a kayak trip (windows were open). Splitting sore head for couple of days, bunged up, a bit of brain fog. Feeling a bit better a week later. I am rarely ill and only tested myself (as i have some LF left over) and I have a family get together soon and I wanted to know for sure. My only real symptom was a 2 day headache, the rest the same as a heavy chesty cold. I am on holiday so didn't impact work, however I would only have not gone to work one day when I felt bad. So if there is no testing how do people know they have it or not and can take sensible precations, limiting contact with others etc. No wonder so many people are getting it.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 1:41 pm
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I know plenty of people ill and/or positive, and working from home.

I had half a day off on Friday, worked yesterday to keep up with what I needed for an important live webinar today, and have delivered said webinar after taking every cough suppressant under the sun.

I’ve no idea year how my cycling is affected yet, be seeing as most of my races have been cancelled I’m seriously considering a pause in coaching and enjoying a summer on my bike if I can, and restarting training in October.

I might well be wrong, but I thought I’d read BA.4 and 5 variants had reverted back to the pre-Omicron location of deep within the lungs.

Based on my experience of a “Bruised” feeling in my lower chest this could be right, although equally that could be my diaphriam aching from all the coughing.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 1:41 pm
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I tested positive this morning having felt fairly crap yesterday but testing negative.
Main symptoms are dry, annoying cough, splitting headache, and possibly a bit of stomach cramps.
I've managed 2 years without an infection and 3 years without being ill at all so this feels completely crap!


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 2:35 pm
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Day 7.

Still coughing/congested. Background headache.

Still negative.

It's perfectly possible there is a non-Covid thing going around too.
It's also possible that the tests are rubbish.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 2:50 pm
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I've not been ill for a few years but I'm currently off work getting over what I think is Covid.
Felt really tired in work last Sunday,got home & was asleep by 7.30.I hardly ate anything for 3 days,had a proper constant banging headache,eyes streaming,could hardly breathe through my nose.I've never had so much 'discharge' exit my nostrils & it felt really hot around my sinus area plus lots of sweating.No sign of a cough or loss of taste though,now I'm just really tired & keep falling asleep.
I was planning on getting a Covid test but all the Covid test centres are closed so I'lljust phone the GP when I need a return to work note.
Seems to be a lot of it about...


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 2:57 pm
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I would only have not gone to work one day when I felt bad

No wonder so many people are getting it.

If you have symptoms or test positive you should isolate!


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 5:01 pm
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10yr old sons just tested +ve after running a fever for 24hrs Saturday into Sunday.  seemingly absolutely fine now.

my RHR has rocketed from 52 to 70 today and feeling a little bit off so we’ll see how wild the ride is. Testing -ve for now.

first time anyone in the house has tested +ve.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 6:25 pm
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Covid does seem to hit the superfit quite hard.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 6:38 pm
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I should be just fine then…


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 6:41 pm
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From last Thursday.


 
Posted : 04/07/2022 10:30 pm
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Well, day 7 from first symptoms and I’ve just tested negative. Still have a slight productive cough, woke up with a headache and a longs days work (sitting behind a laptop, some presentations and meetings) yesterday has knocked me out a bit.

Perhaps I can now stop isolating / mask wearing at home at least.


 
Posted : 05/07/2022 9:35 am
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After testing positive yesterday today I'm feeling quite a bit better.
Basically just feels like a cold - with ringing in my ears.
Slight cough and sniffly nose.
Hopefully I'm past the worst.


 
Posted : 05/07/2022 9:37 am
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Well day 3 after my positive test and, other than a very slightly blocked nose, my symptoms have effectively gone.
Just for fun I did another test this morning which was nicely positive still (no surprise really) - but my mate, who probs got it from me, has tested negative!!

I'm staying at home for another two full days though as per the recommendations.
Think I've got a way with it fairly mildly compared to some/many - maybe it shows how unfit I am!!


 
Posted : 07/07/2022 12:54 pm
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I might well be wrong, but I thought I’d read BA.4 and 5 variants had reverted back to the pre-Omicron location of deep within the lungs.

No evidence of greater severity. The faster replication may be due to additional changes at the furin cleavage site and that allows infection of the upper respiratory tract. More likely is a waning in protection from morbidity afforded by time since vaccination and possibly time since infection.

Paper here shows the same hospitalisation rates for omicron variants.

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1792132/v1

After controlling for factors associated with hospitalisation and severe outcome respectively, BA.4/BA.5-infected individuals had a similar odds of hospitalisation (aOR1.24, 95% CI 0.98–1.55) and severe outcome (aOR 0.71, 95%CI 0.41–1.25) compared to BA.1-infected individuals.

The increase in BA.4 and BA.5 hospitalisations in the UK is at a rate seen previously for omicron emergence. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare patients in hospital on a log scale over past 12mo is informative of the double omicron (BA.1 then BA.2) peaks, to be followed by a BA.4/5 peak that I think will look similar.

I'm waiting for this autumn's omicron-specific variant. Strains may have over on, but this vaccine will be at least closer to circulating strains.

Covid does seem to hit the superfit quite hard.

And I resemble the MdS athlete - still wiped out two years later. the working hypothesis is that such athletes are in a state of immunosuppression due to extended training. This puts them at risk of more serious infection, and in the first wave, without protection, significant systemic organ morbidity.


 
Posted : 07/07/2022 3:58 pm
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Wow.

Well, I continue to recover, but still with the odd cough during the day today and a headache upon waking.

I’m going for my first gentle bike ride tonight, I’ll post later to report on any post viral fatigue.


 
Posted : 07/07/2022 4:26 pm
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Sorry to hear @tired you're still suffering. You have to wonder what the societal effects of Long Covid will be, both for the individuals involved and the NHS/etc...

I tested negative yesterday and went for my first ride/any real exercise in a week. Definitely felt quite "lung-y" similar to riding post Asthma flare up. Was okay but done in at the end. Also felt like there was a lag between brain and rest of body. Normally only get that with a hangover and not touched a drop for a week!

Garmin (no HR strap, just wrist one) told me '66 hours' to recover. Normally after a night ride, it's 30-40 hours. No idea if that's coincidence or not but pretty tired today


 
Posted : 07/07/2022 4:34 pm
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After 2 years avoiding it in the UK we came out to Perth for a family funeral a bit of chillout time. And bam 1 week in 2/3 house tested positive. Im testing negative but identical symptoms to everyone else so assume I have it as well. Horrible head cold and brain fog for 2 days but feeling a lot better now on day 5. I'm horribly unfit now so this might be fun!


 
Posted : 07/07/2022 4:38 pm
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So, I just did my first post-covid MTB ride. I wasn't expecting much as last time I had 3-4 weeks of post viral fatigue. I just rode my bike, tried a few efforts and didn't feel strained or tired at all.  I felt quite rested and free to do what I needed to do, so no post viral fatigue this time.    

However - also experienced at work - I did have "brain fog".  It quickly became apparent that my decision making was slow and eye to brain coordination poor, so I slowed down on the descents for safety.

I guess I can count myself lucky for the second time.


 
Posted : 07/07/2022 9:23 pm
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On the way out the other side now. 3 days of feeling pretty grotty but I’ve had worse.


 
Posted : 07/07/2022 9:31 pm
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Winter time here in Queensland and as was predicted at the end of last year the numbers are climbing. There's another virus / flu thrown in the mix too.

Brisbane hospitals are cancelling elective surgery due to being overloaded with COVID and flu patients (not something that happens with normal flu seasons) and of course lots of staff are off sick.

Australian government is making a fourth jab available for all +30yr olds and recommending it for all +50 and vulnerable (I know some who've already had five).

Recent east coast natural disasters and riding cost of living will compound the difficulties too. There's still plenty of people displaced from February's floods and it all kicked off again in New South Wales this week.


 
Posted : 08/07/2022 6:19 am
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Curious if anyone is aware of plans to roll out further vaccinations to the general pop towards autumn?


 
Posted : 08/07/2022 12:11 pm
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And I resemble the MdS athlete – still wiped out two years later. the working hypothesis is that such athletes are in a state of immunosuppression due to extended training. This puts them at risk of more serious infection, and in the first wave, without protection, significant systemic organ morbidity.

Sorry to hear you're still suffering..

I caught it right at the end of a 4 month block & was totally pole-axed by PVF. Took me 2 months before I could even walk to the shops. Others I've known who have had it & train significantly less fared better. Still had some PVF but no more than a few wks at best. I've decided now not to train for anything longer than 2 1/2 months at a time so to not run my system down so much. Also this winter I'll just be on a maintenance program opposed to anything more taxing...lesson learnt!


 
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