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What I’m definitely not seeing is and need to show proof of vaccination ANYWHEWRE I’ve been since March (including leaving Aus, arriving in UK and leaving UK to Europe).
me and my travel colleague were pulled out of a queue at BCN randomly to present Covid vaccine evidence. Thing is, I go the papers out of my cabin bag then they waved me through… without looking at them.
im glad to get a good dose of it out the way, least can kinda relax abit more going on holiday this year, and same with mrs given both had it at the same time
Same, my eldest and my wife haven’t had it (yet) but this feels as though an immunity boost as side benefit of coughing my asthmatic lungs up.
There's quite a bit of data showing that previous Omicron infection offers little on-going protection. There isn't any 'getting it out of the way' I'm afraid.
Hmmm, I am attending an 'escape room' party as the mandatory adult on sat. 5 teenage girls, one of whom was positive on tues. So in theory her 3 days are up on Fri, so sat will be fine....right?
previous Omicron infection offers little on-going protection
There’s early data suggesting it’s worse than that, that multiple Omicron infections result in worsening health outcomes, but let’s hope that proves to be wrong once more is known.
Whatever I have is having far worse effect than Januarys version. Full on man flu this one.
Well it appears I spoke/typed too soon. Took another test as was feeling quite ropey (and my 89 year old mum is in a care home and very frail so cannot be too careful) and now I've joined the 'double liners'. Both my adult kids and 2 of their friends are staying with us before going on hols on Monday.
I shall also be watching lots of sport this weekend. From the shed!
I guess on the upside, wearing a mask on the plane(s) meant I didn't infect anyone else. My wife is still clear so who knows how that works!
Ridiculous number of people we know seem to be positive at the moment, and none of them got it from me!
From the shed!
You make that sound like a hardship, but, knowing you, it's probably better kitted out for relaxation than my house.
Ridiculous number of people we know seem to be positive at the moment
It's the wave that isn't a wave.
What I don't get, is with people as on the ball as Professor Jonathan Van-Tam saying this is now to be treated much like seasonal flu... which season do they mean? If it's any/all seasons, we can't just plan for it like seasonal flu really, can we. A different approach is needed.
Well the UKHSA is not funded to report Covid stats from tomorrow as we are now "living with Covid".
Yesterday they were being asked to keep providing the stats that they no longer have funding for....
The OH came home with a sore throat Tues last week, didn't think anything of it until I said I'd been wiped out most of the day, then tested and lo! A faint line. I tested negative then, but retested on Sunday when my throat felt scratchy, and my oh my, the T line appeared so fast and so dark that I had to double check that C was the control line, not T!
It hasn't been worse than a normal winter virus - headache, body aches, general weakness and lack of appetite. Just stayed in bed, necked ibuprofen and paracetamol and rejoiced that I was retired! OH was off work for a few days but is back WFH now.
Annoyingly I feel more human now but tested today and still positive. I'm now well enough to miss social interaction!
Down to the last 6 LFT tests (we managed to order some just before they stopped giving them away).
It seems rampant here, at least six people we know tested positive since my OH did. A lot of them like us, never had it before and have been fairly careful.
I'm still ill, still testing negative (with two different types of test). Luckily Mrs S gets free testing kits as part of her job.
I've pulled out of a gig I was going to attend tomorrow but planning on an al fresco coffee with a couple of friends later today.
Surprisingly air travel, as long as passengers wear masks and follow the necessary precautions, is apparently actually low covid transmission risk
I took 2 easyJet flights last month for a holiday. On the flight out I reckon me and MrsDoris were the only people wearing masks. MrsD tested positive 3 days later.
On the way back I spotted maybe 3 or 4 other people in masks, and on the train from London to Bristol I'd say maybe 5-10% in our carriage.
And, as others here have noted, I know LOADS of people that currently seem to have it. I wonder what the connection could possibly be??
Yeah the virus appears to be carrying out mopping up operations now that people's guards are down.
I wonder if it will result in a smaller winter peak following a summer boost in temporary immunity? I would have thought that a long period of low covid levels would path the way for a sudden explosion in cases.
The Tories must be in some sort of trouble again as Covid infection rates up is the current headline on the bbc news website. Based on guesswork of course, or as they put it "estimates". With hardly anyone (with a life) testing anymore you've got to wonder what the agenda is to go to such lengths.
BBC are scaremongering half wits. Thats the reason so many are still overly paranoid and scared to resume a normal life thanks to two years of having sensationalist doomsday fear being shoved down their throats.
Lets have some figures on the number of suicides that resulted in lockdowns and scaremongering.
Lets have some figures on the number of suicides that resulted in lockdowns and scaremongering.
Probably fewer than 6 million and still counting.
Lets have some figures on the number of suicides that resulted in lockdowns and scaremongering.
I suppose that you meant 'resulted from' rather than 'resulted in'. But anyway, there was a slight drop in suicides during the pandemic, and many people's mental heath improved, particularly those who were bullied and stressed at work or in education. But hey, facts eh? Who cares about facts?
I have to say - I read the article on the BBC referred to above and did wonder where the ONS gets accurate data from considering very few are testing right now?
I have to say – I read the article on the BBC referred to above and did wonder where the ONS gets accurate data from considering very few are testing right now?
They do a standard survey every week by sending out tests to a sample group, who take them whether they have symptoms or not.
EDIT - And if you are interested, this explains it fully. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/methodologies/covid19infectionsurveypilotmethodsandfurtherinformation
They do a standard survey every week by sending out tests to a sample group, who take them whether they have symptoms or not.
I'm part of the test group. Monthly PCR test and blood sample, plus a load of questions about where I've been.
The four of us have been doing it for nearly 2 years. It has been a nice little earner!
R4 More or Less this week stated c.95% have had it based on above, plus 95% of (unvaccinated) kids having antibodies. After two years of twice weekly tests, my 53 year old sister (teaches 16-18 year olds) finally got a +ve today after four days of cold like symptoms. No great drama.
They do a standard survey every week by sending out tests to a sample group, who take them whether they have symptoms or not.
EDIT – And if you are interested, this explains it fully.> https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/methodologies/covid19infectionsurveypilotmethodsandfurtherinformation
Brill thank you I had no idea!
Lets have some figures on the number of suicides that resulted in lockdowns and scaremongering.
I don't those figures but one figure I do know is that 93.2% of the population over the age of 12 have had at least one covid vaccination jab.
Which is quite a remarkable figure and one which highlights how small in number the antivaxxers are, despite the significant media coverage they received.
Or perhaps they just lost the argument?
Lets have some figures on the number of suicides that resulted in lockdowns and scaremongering.
Samaritans report 4,912 suicides in the UK in 2020. We were living with that many deaths a week to Covid at times. Not that long ago we were still having 1000 Covid deaths a week.
Any suicide is tragedy, but the facts don't back up the "lockdown was worse than Covid" argument.
Annoyingly I feel more human now but tested today and still positive. I’m now well enough to miss social interaction!
I'm also at this point, bloody annoying.
A good friend and her family are still taking part in the monthly anti-body blood testing. The samples are taken by a nurse, however next month these tests will be sent by post and have to be performed by my friend and posted back. Looking like cost cutting measures in place, but still testing which is good.
N. Korea has made a scientific breakthrough. Corona virus is caused by "alien things" blowing across the border. Do not touch!
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/nkorea-says-covid-outbreak-began-with-patients-touching-alien-things-near-border-2022-06-30/
The Tories must be in some sort of trouble again as Covid infection rates up is the current headline on the bbc news website
The party who boast about getting covid done and getting the big decisions done are going use covid re-surging as a tactic - that’s a bold move!
So in theory her 3 days are up on Fri, so sat will be fine….right?
FFP3 Mask with no valve for the event and you'll be right.
BA4/5 isn’t pleasant. 3rd day in bed for me and although the all-day coughing seems to be fading, the banging headache, muscle aches and huge tiredness when doing just little things is persisting.
Interesting article on the BBC site talking about how Covid seems to be a rare example of a virus able to mutate itself multiple times per “season”.
BA4/5 isn’t pleasant.
agree, 7 days for me so far, just starting to feel a bit better, this is not what I expected ☹️.
The constant headache (a bit like its sinus related) and just feeling knackered really caught me off guard. Not really done anything for a full week now. 🙄
Interesting article about herd immunity (or lack of) in the Guardian by an immunologist
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/01/herd-immunity-covid-virus-vaccine
a bit like its sinus related
Feels exactly the same for me.
Yeah, I found the jammed sinuses a pain to deal with. No other significant symptoms though other than a cough. The red lines on the LFTs were thicker than the control lines though, and positive for a full 10 days.
Read an interesting thing about antigenic original sin, where your body generates a crap-tonne of antibodies but for the first Omicron variant, and it takes a while for it to realise that they aren't working properly and rush the fixed version out of the factory.
3 chums and I recently returned from doing the An Turas Mor ride. We had a call from one of the digs en route to say they'd just recovered and tested negative. 3 days later, one of our 3 had symptoms, 3 days later again, the other 2 joined in.
I tested positive that night (aka 'day 1') and had horrible flu like symptoms and a nasty sore throat for 3 days and restricted cardio and head/chest cold since - now day 14.
I tested negative on day 10 as did the initial victim. The 3rd chap didn't test and carried on as normal - he's had it before and used the phrase 'plausible deniability' to explain his behaviour - **** and he's a good friend. 🙁
Mrs Boblo tested positive on my day 6 and has another couple of days to run for a -ve test assuming similar patterns. She's still showing cold like symptoms inc a chesty cough.
It might be flu like, but anyone that's had proper flu would try and avoid it as a) its pretty unpleasant b) it screws up the stuff you really want to do and c) it can be high(er) risk for those less healthy than 'us' or mebbies aren't in a position to take paid time off work thereby spreading it further.
I think we got a bit complacent and will now return to mask wearing, social distancing and being cautious. The only thing I can control is my own behavior so that's what I'll concentrate on coupled with staying away from people as the numbers ramp up again.
Just tested positive. I've barely got over my first infection back in November of last year🤦♂️
Likely we picked it up at a concert on Monday night.
Was sneezing like mad all day yesterday. Nose constantly streaming. Put it down to bad hayfever but 3 different anti-histamines made no difference. Woke up with a sore throat and feeling a wee bit lethargic this morning so did a test
It might be flu like, but anyone that’s had proper flu would try and avoid it
It always used to amuse/annoy me when students would come in after a single day off saying ‘I had ‘flu yesterday’. Errr, no, you might have had a cold, if you had proper ‘flu you would still be in bed for a few more days
Sounds identical to my symptoms.
Currently on day five, the lines on the LFT's have gone from thin and barely noticeable to thick red lines over the past couple of days despite symptoms easing off.
My other half who is now at day seven has been much worse than me but the lines on her LFT's are much lighter than when she first tested positive.
Yeah, I found the jammed sinuses a pain to deal with
Oh god yes!
Today is Day 10 for me since testing positive. Relatively mild effects really, lots of coughing and sneezing, some aching muscles, worst of that gone by 3-4, but the bunged up sinuses effect is unpleasant still. Taste and smell are coming and going.
Was still clearly positive yesterday, will test again tomorrow.
Wife tested negative yesterday, kids totally unaffected
All those symptoms listed above match mine and I'm still testing negative. Covid or not it's unpleasant and I see no need to share it with others 😃
It always used to amuse/annoy me when students would come in after a single day off saying ‘I had ‘flu yesterday’. Errr, no, you might have had a cold, if you had proper ‘flu you would still be in bed for a few more days
lol, yeah, I've had flu once about 40 years ago and I remember it to this day. I've yet to "enjoy" Covid but being in a vulnerable group I've probably relaxed my precautions less than most.
So, first positive test for me yesterday. Test carried out as I was feeling like utter balls, achy muscles, sinuses full and a proper cough.
I was feeling a bit off on Wednesday so I decided (maybe unwisely) to smash a quick ride out in case I did get ill. Anyway, no surprise, Thursday I woke up with proper flu type aches and a belting headache and the cough developed later that evening. Test on Friday, thick positive line appeared in under a minute!
Almost certainly came from four sold out gigs in four nights last weekend… and if I’m honest the last one in Bristol feels like the most likely candidate. The band I was accompanying (photographer) didn’t get it, but I was in the crowd for this gig as there was no barrier.
Doesn’t surprise me there is such an increase in cases - so many massive concerts, festivals, and of course people going away by rail and air.
It always used to amuse/annoy me when students would come in after a single day off saying ‘I had ‘flu yesterday’. Errr, no, you might have had a cold, if you had proper ‘flu you would still be in bed for a few more days
I get your point but one thing COVID has taught us is that it can be everywhere from asymptomatic to full on hospital ventilation and death. I suspect flu is no different but we don't have the evidence of regular testing for flu against every example of cold like symptoms and even asymptomatic screening. There will have been IMHO millions of 'just a cold' cases that were actually flu. So you could both be right, in a strict sense, and it was flu but they are just resilient against it so didn't get the full impact
Written well before COVID https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/03/17/290878964/even-if-you-dont-have-symptoms-you-may-still-have-the-flu?t=1656771422346
I think covid has broken the back of the ‘presenteeism’ bullshit we don’t take sick days culture, at least in my workplace.
No bad thing. but then we get decent sick pay…
Im not wanting to actually discuss* the group in question, but has anyone seen a "stand in the park" pop up locally?
*as much as anything because it seems reasonably level headed at the minute unless ive missed something when skim reading
I must say, despite feeling generally horrible, I’m finding the numbers my new Garmin watch comes up with fascinating.
Resting heart rate 15-20 over normal while awake.
Despite doing nothing, ‘body battery’ dropping at a fair rate. Probably due to heart rate elevation being recorded as stress.
I noticed the increase in heart rate from before proper symptoms too
Im not wanting to actually discuss* the group in question, but has anyone seen a “stand in the park” pop up locally?
I was hoping someone would come along and post something to help this make sense, but apparently not.....