Mandatory waxing??? Ooff that will smart
Had my booster this morning, feeling OK so far
Had my booster this morning, feeling OK so far
Arm a bit sore, starting to feel a bit more tired than usual, which was what I had after the first two jabs
Ahh a government trying to protect it’s citizens, bastards.
You seriously believe that the act of forcing people to be injected against their free will is all well and good?
I don’t think it’s appropriate for this virus and current vaccines for it, but no, I’m not against it absolutely in theory.
Small pox.
Forced vaccination is an absolute last resort in the face of catastrophic mortality, and is not appropriate in this case IMO. I'm not against plenty of coercion though, such as vaccine passporting.
Forced vacination should not be an option no matter how bad things get. I've had one Jab won't have another. I'm not sure they would get away with it here but I bet they would try.
Lots of major workplaces now restricting access for the unvaccinated. My work has certainly stepped this up recently.
Government mandates or not, if you're on the vaccine hesitant to full fat anti vaccine spectrum, it's going to start having consequences.
The Austrian imposition doesn’t come into force until 1 February 2022, so it may not actually come to pass if there’s sufficient voluntary take up and successful lockdown.
I was hesitant but decided to have my first jab . 7 month down the line i'm still having regular hospital appointments. I would probably get medical exemption after what happened or maybe they would tell me to have a different jab. Either way I still want the decision left up to me as to when or if I get another Jab.
For the record, I don’t agree with mandated vaccination. I am however happy with the consequences of not being vaccinated. It’s benefit risk. One of the benefits of vaccination might be freedom of movement. When there is a viable alternative for those who’d can’t be vaccinated (AZ Evusheld reported solid 88% efficacy at six months this week), then such restrictions are reasonable.
Access to work sites in the US requires vaccination. Tricky if you are lab based. But not for myself.
The exponential increase in cases across Europe is impressive. I’ll post some plots later. Hospitalisations and deaths will follow. It’s understanding the reasons that are the key. I personally don’t believe it’s differences in vaccination rates.
Booster booking for the over 40s is already open, BTW - I booked my wife in this morning at 7am!
That's a great article theotherjonv - you can hear the frustration that they are feeling.
Jrboywsf woke up with a high temp on Sat, I did on Sunday and by now all of plus in the house / Jrboywsf, Jrgirlwsf and my all appear to have it. +ve PCR for his, LFT for me and the little lady so far.
He’s got what I’d describe as “normal” high temp and feeling lethargic as usual kids-picking-bugs-up occasions.
I’m feeling a bit run down, headache and achey etc - a bit like after the first jab but milder. Fingers crossed!
Little lady meanwhile is bouncing around the house like normal.
We got a hand delivered flyer through the door. The anti vaccination information about why we shouldn't have the vaccine was misguided at best and positively dangerous at worst.
Luckily everyone I know in the area has put it straight in the bin.
I can keep away from such literature on social media and walk away if someone starts spouting off nearby, but to post this misinformation through letterboxes is out of order imo.
However, I have not heard of any who have been hospitalised with Covid afterwards
This sentence alone proves what a load of guff that article is - there are plenty of vaccinated people in hospital
Your post proves you don't understand the article or alternatively are selectively quoting to get a response. The actual quote is
I have many colleagues who have felt awful after vaccination and a few who had to take a day or two off work. However, I have not heard of any who have been hospitalised with Covid afterwards or who have had severe side-effects.
Not that no-one at all has been - in fact the article says
Of course, there are people who have their vaccinations but still get sick. These people may be elderly or frail, or have underlying health problems. Those with illnesses affecting the immune system, particularly patients who have had chemotherapy for blood cancers, are especially vulnerable. Some unlucky healthy people will also end up on our general wards with Covid after being vaccinated, usually needing a modest amount of oxygen for a few days.
Simply mis read - apologies
Quite disappointed with ScotGov
Pulling a few tricks from the general Covid failure playbook.
1) Leading stories in the press about increasing restrictions to soften us up for when it comes.
2) Doing the exact wrong thing cos "reasons". Essentially they are going to widen vaccine passports' requirements. Which do nothing for transmission and are becoming more and more irrelevant every day as vaccination power fades with time. Vaccine passports were only ever a weird way of coercing people into getting vaccinations.
So... cases are up, and you're going to extend a measure that will do absolutely hee-haw to drop them.
The hospitals are gubbed, it's not even cold yet. Vaccine protection is fading, cases are rising, we've had vaccine passports for a while now and they're doing almost nothing other than upsetting the hospitality industry.
We're going into lockdown again. I know it. The medical advisers know it. Nicola Sturgeon knows it. It's just "awkward" so we're playing politics.
3) But the one thing we learned int he past is that every week you fanny around means three weeks more pain in the arse for everyone.
Tick ****ing tock
Essentially they are going to widen vaccine passports’ requirements. Which do nothing for transmission and are becoming more and more irrelevant every day as vaccination power fades with time.
I thought the passport was going to show the date of the booster too though? Won't that ensure they stay relevant?
40+k new cases on a Sunday? oooooo.
We’re going into lockdown again. I know it. The medical advisers know it. Nicola Sturgeon knows it. It’s just “awkward” so we’re playing politics.
I think that's very unlikely without the UK government reintroducing furlough and I don't think there's any appetite for that at the treasury. The SNP will continue to do largely pointless things that harm the economy but do nothing for infection rates.
2) Doing the exact wrong thing cos “reasons”. Essentially they are going to widen vaccine passports’ requirements. Which do nothing for transmission and are becoming more and more irrelevant every day as vaccination power fades with time. Vaccine passports were only ever a weird way of coercing people into getting vaccinations.
That reads like you think you’ll only be vaccinated once, is that right?
The vaccine passport thing is totally irrelevant. It's a mind game and practically ineffective in a medical context.
That's why fiddling with it is just burning time that would be better spent in lockdown so that it's shorter and we can get out of it for Christmas and Hogmany. Wasn't that the thing last year they had Boris pilloried over for his nonsense - the "circuit breaker"? We need one of them now.
40+k new cases on a Sunday? oooooo.
yeah that "significant slump" in November cases being touted by the government is yet too materialize!
Thank you Martinhutch. Got mine booked now for the earliest out can be 20 Dec. Wife also which is Thursday. She is asthmatic so had her first 2 ahead of me, but had been unable to book a booster (and not bothered to chase that.... Despite my nagging getting more and more).
For anyone that thought it was a bit sh*** they didn’t allow 16+ to get double vaccinated they can now book their 2nd dose.
People aged 16 or over are eligible for a 2nd dose.
People aged 18 or over should have their 2nd dose from 8 weeks after their 1st dose.
Most people aged 16 or 17 should have their 2nd dose from 12 weeks after their 1st dose.
If you book online, you'll be asked to book appointments for both doses. You can manage your COVID-19 vaccination appointments to view your appointments and rebook if you need to.
If you had your 1st dose at a walk-in vaccination site, you can book your 2nd COVID-19 vaccination appointment online. You'll need to wait 24 hours after your 1st dose before you can book.
If you have your 1st dose through your GP surgery, you'll be contacted when it's time to book your 2nd dose.
worked out its exactly 152days since my 2nd jab so got online this morning and booked for 22nd dec, 5min wait on the website but pretty straightforward.
I thought it would be the 24th but i hadn't counted the days properly. 22nd is better as I'm out of leave so working up to xmas eve. at least if I get any side effects it'll be on work time...
Wife's work colleague's 4 year old son has had to be moved to Oxford hospital (from Northampton Gen) with serious covid complications.
Wife’s work colleague’s 4 year old son has had to be moved to Oxford hospital (from Northampton Gen) with serious covid complications.
Jeez, that sounds horrendous for his family.
Doesn't sound good for the little lad either. Fingers crossed he recovers fast.
booster and flu jab done today.
Just got my booster dose, it and the flu vaccine are competing to see which can make an arm throb more. Totally worth it though.
And the vaccine factory at the Royal Highland Showground is super impressive. Bit slow for the individual but it gets shit done.
Just got my booster dose, it and the flu vaccine are competing to see which can make an arm throb more.
It’s always the flu one that makes my arm ache, the last one, a couple of months ago, really made it ache, it was quite tender for a week or so; I’ve had all three Covid jabs, and none of those had any significant effects.
Wife’s booster & 16yo daughter 2nd both booked in Dec. Youngest (13) had his first, plus had Covid in September. All grandparents boosted, and my booster was in July (trial) We are as a family as protected as we can be thankfully.
Out of interest for those of you getting the flu jab is it something you've previously done or just recently because of covid? I've never seen the need.
I’ve not had it before, but I don’t really want to pass it on to the elderly, who could then get hit by Covid whilst their immune system is weakened.
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Full MemberOut of interest for those of you getting the flu jab is it something you’ve previously done or just recently because of covid? I’ve never seen the need.
I get it because I'm diabetic... TBH, I don't really feel a need, flu is more of a risk for us diabetics but I'm healthy, I think the actual risk for me is bugger all. But I'd feel a right knob if I said no then died of it, and it might help take a little pressure off the nhs too this winter.
I’ve never seen the need.
Getting the flu is pretty crap whatever your age, and it's not very good for the economy. For those two reasons it is worth, where possible, to minimise the risks
I have never had the flu jab before but am considering it now
My reasons for not having it? I have never known of anyone actually getting flu ( unitl my dad caught it two years ago). Lots of people claim to have had flu but IME its very rare. I am not in an at risk category and I react badly to vaccinations ( possibly mainly in my head 🙂 )
I had my first flu jab last year because they lowered the age requirement and it seemed that any way of reducing the potential load on he NHS was a good thing. It was unremarkable. I'm assuming I'll get it again at the beginning of December when my Covid booster is due.
I had flu once, i think it was about '95 - it was torture. I actually remember thinking at the time, in the lucid parts in between the hellish torment, how i now understood why people died of it.
Actually, one of the interesting things i read recently sort of led with the idea that this whole undercurrent that it's 'only' like the flu should be treated as - ¡¡¡ SH!T IT'S LIKE THE FLU!!!
I got mine as soon as i could.
Never had flue either, and I didn't get the flu jab until my eldest almost died from reactive airways when he was little. Figured that anything I could do to keep it out of the household was worthwhile. Plus they push a trolley around my workplace dishing it out, so it's pretty easy to do.
My work does flu jabs for anyone that wants it every year. I've done it for the past few years even though personally I'm not in a high risk group. Flu is awful - I know the flu vaccine doesn't always have a high effectiveness in a given year but if over 10 years it saves me from 1 or 2 bouts of flu that's a big win.
