Doctor on french tv saying that testing only necessary for some people ( ill , known medical conditions pregnant etc...), no need for general population .But France is ahead of UK .
in theory not allowed to go on the bike …
In Macron's speech he said déplacements pour une activité physique would be allowed. I'm going to water and ride the horses tomorrow.
Just broke it to the daughter about staying home. Very upsetting, she's in bits, and literally begging to able to carry on as normal. It's going to be a tricky few months. I've no doubt a lot of it is just stress about the whole thing. She's in total denial so having to face it head on is obviously a shock. 12 year old doesn't give a shit 🙂
My other halfs theatre company is very much at the other end of the scale but its been, buggered.
It really is shitty behaviour....especially in comparison to France where "no business, regardless of size, will be allowed to fail" (Beeb's words)
Are people going to stop going biking? I was going to do a little cheeky overnighter this weekend in Wales.. but not sure now.
My just turned 13 year old is pretty chilled about it tbh, was scared, but reassured her now.
Basically French to stay at home for 15 days and it’ll be enforced
Probably an idea uk should be following.
Germany could also look towards France. I quite like the idea that all rents and bills are suspended.
GF was meant to be starting a new job today and signing the contract first thing. Got told yesterday evening not to bother coming in. Job is still there, but the money won't be.
Last paid work for me was 14th Feb. My bank account is slowly being depleted. The tax man wants paying, rent still needs to be paid and food bought.
The main concern about riding the horses is that if either of us gets bucked off it'll be anti-social taking up hospital staff time. No galloping around tomorrow, just a little trot I think. Same with mountain biking, nothing rad if you ride.
I'd taken today off work to prepare my home office for WFH due to being in a high risk group. About 4pm email went around work stating everything was pretty much business as usual, no need not to run training courses, travel for meetings fine and they won't be encouraging people to work from home. 10 minutes later goverment policy is work from home if possible and cut out all unnecessary social contact.
Macron just now :
That. I want that. If I don’t get that, I want a new government (even more than I did before).
Face it Boris, You’ve had your fun, you ‘ran a country’ for a bit, but it’s time to get a genuine, bona vide, grown up leader take over for the good of the country and not treat it like a prize/new plaything, you chancing sack of shit. still, in one of the biggest crisis since the war, you haven’t actually mandated that anybody do anything, purely to avoid any responsibility whatsoever.
Apologies for the rant.
A mate of ours who owns a cafe bar just posted this on Friendface, which I’m sure sums up the feelings of a lot of business owners who are about to go bust
Well done boris 👏👏👏
You’re not going to impose proper sanctions in what we should or shouldn't do, but with 1 sentence you have killed many restaurants/bars/cafes... thank you, you Tory *ing *!
Physical exercise allowed in France
on your own
only around your local area , cant drive with bike in car .
not in town or populated area
if you cross someone , stay 2m away .
all good for me .
Was it 14 million people who voted for this clown. Unbelievable.
The other end of the scale to Glyndebourne, my local small bar/micro brewery have announced today they are closing for the foreseeable future. Tomorrow however, is sale day. Could be quite a party.
Time for country to declare war on the boris virus; more deadly than covid-19.
A mate of ours who owns a cafe bar just posted this on Friendface, which I’m sure sums up the feelings of a lot of business owners who are about to go bust
I'm waiting for the coin to drop with the government that there's a lot of businesses have kitchens, a lot of people need feeding. If this goes on for ages - step away from the shopping and sort out how to feed a nation. Don't let them go bankrupt, do everything to ease the burden on them, and for f-sake give them a living. I have a similar off the wall take on public works. Letting money fly away out the country doesn't help us, investing in us does.
Just seen from the US side of the company I work for that 6 SF Bay Area counties have ordered a 3 week "shelter-in-place", starting Tuesday.
Which means no leaving home apart from absolute essentials.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-san-francisco-idUSKBN2133ED
National trust are closing all buildings by the end of the week, in reality from tomorrow. Staff paid "for the time being". Guess I'll be sweeping up and tidying for a month or so til the money runs out!
I’m waiting for the coin to drop with the government that there’s a lot of businesses have kitchens, a lot of people need feeding. If this goes on for ages – step away from the shopping and sort out how to feed a nation.
Local cafes around here have already said they’ll cook meals for those in quarantine and deliver them. Maybe your friend could do something similar.
It is going to be annoying beyond belief when, shortly afterward being told I (and many others) have to continue to work in a school with hundreds of people in close proximity, to then be told we cannot go outside to walk/ride our bikes which (done sensibly) has no risk at all!
Edit: everything’s moving too quickly. It appears from recent posts that sensible activities outdoors may be permitted, let’s hope so.
I thought car plants turning out ventilators sounded like BS.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51914490
Meanwhile the EU have a central plan to ramp up production and share them out within the EU....and understandably limit exports to non EU countries.
Boris, Farage, Cummings. Blood on their hands.
500 billions euro package for businesses , no rent , no rates , all utilities bills . include self employed .
Macron promised no business would go bankrupt do to Covid
Johnson just shafted the entire leisure industry
Sadly, for every ‘Boris has just crippled an industry/*ed over tens of thousands’ post on SM, there’s another one saying ‘it’s not his fault there’s a virus, he’s doing his/what’s best, let him get on with it’ post.
I’m more angry over this farce than I was over brexit. Mainly because this isn’t some ideological concept, stemming from Eton’s debate club. He asked to be leader, now he has to lead, he is doing *ing nothing, in fact worse than nothing. Then when all the doing less than nothing comes back to bite him, he will be fine, and he knows it. Assuming the virus doesn’t get him. Livid.
So today Grant Shapps stood up and said the UK was driven by 'science, not populism'
Please please please can we learn our lesson and not vote for mediocrity in future?
https://www.twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1239655710872518663
Been an odd day; confirmed case on the campus I work on and people just leaving with computers under their arm to wfh. Got to daughters nursery to pick up and a big sign on the door explaining there is a suspected case (but won't be tested). Got home to hear about Boris's announcements. The hospitality thing is a bit of a nightmare. he is a spineless shit.
He’s a ****n ****. When I spend 3 hours with central govt trying to unravel what it actually means it tells you he has no idea about leading or what a leader looks like. No great surprise but Jesus don’t we need a leader right now. He will have blood in his well manicured hands.
It is going to be annoying beyond belief when, shortly afterward being told I (and many others) have to continue to work in a school with hundreds of people in close proximity, to then be told we cannot go outside to walk/ride our bikes which (done sensibly) has no risk at all!
You can go to work just dont go to the pub on the way home!!
Go to the pub? Yes, good idea before most of them go bust.
After johnson's piss poor performance earlier, try this for enhanced delusion
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/487883-trump-gives-himself-10-out-of-10-on-coronavirus-response
Words fail me.
Only thing I can say for Boris is that Trump is worse.
Imperial College models here. Grim reading.
My kids' nursery has 5 families and 2 workers self-isolating, hopefully, they're false alarms but as they weren't tested despite one of the children having breathing difficulties no one knows.
The nursery itself has already informed parents that the contract states that they must keep paying the fees even if the government's orders nurseries to shut down> I can understand their point of view but we and most families won't be able to pay the £250 per day per child fees and have to take unpaid leave to look after them.
You can just about work from home with school-age kids but no chance with pre-school.
In another no win way:
We are just about to shut a lot of people with a virus that causes breathing difficulties into low grade houses. They are going to fill these with moist air as they get on with living their lives. It's going to be a mould explosion chucking another potential lung irritant into the mix.
I have far too many friends in hospitality and they are petrified. And we’re not talking small coffee shops here, we’re taking Michelin starred restaurants.
1 guy will close his cafe tomorrow for good, I can think of 10 other places that’ll be gone by the end of the month.
Rightly or wrongly, I’m fit, healthy and have zero contact with anyone who is classed as vulnerable. So until I’m told categorically not to, I’m going to my local pubs and restaurants and will support them all I can.
In the back of my mind though, I do wonder if we’ll get a Boris U-turn on the bars and restaurants thing tomorrow...
I know I haven't felt like this since 9/11. It is another one of those 'things are not going to be quite the same again' moments.
And if we are now going for proper measures to really slow the spread, then why WHY the **** are the schools not closing? This does not follow.
I have no faith in our novelty clown 'a bit of a laugh' government. They are hedging their bets, not because they are devious with a plan in mind, but because they are in the shit and haven't got a bloody clue what they are doing.
lunge
I do wonder if we’ll get a Boris U-turn on the bars and restaurants thing tomorrow…
Based on the ICL report above, I'd be willing to bet it's about to get a lot worse. China and Korea are the only places with a (current) handle on this, and both have performed rigorous testing, tracing and isolation procedures. We and the rest of Europe aren't even close.
@lunge - their decisions seem entirely reactive to bad press so can see a u-turn quite easily.
I am bricking it. Think we will take child out of nursery even though as above we'll still have to pay and it will make things harder balancing work timewise.
On the plus side my folks seemed a bit laisse faire but my mother got a call from the gp to explain she was particularly at risk to make sure she took things seriously so now she is!
I know I haven’t felt like this since 9/11. It is another one of those ‘things are not going to be quite the same again’ moments.
+1 Good shout, this is how I remember feeling during 9/11.
Jr will not be in school tomorrow. Linked with three other sets of parents to provide lessons over WhatsApp video following school timetable. My parents will move in with us once we have 10 clear days in lockdown. School supportive. What a mess. Only plus to Johnson is that he’s not Trump.
If you're in UK, now is good time to sign up for flusurvey.net, which was set up during 2009 flu pandemic to track community illness. It's easy to fill out each week, and provides valuable data on milder infections.
Anyone watching Newsnight? Has this Minister not been briefed, or do the government as a whole not really have a clue? If she’s meant to either be clear, or reassure, then it’s a complete fail on birth counts.
I know I haven’t felt like this since 9/11. It is another one of those ‘things are not going to be quite the same again’ moments.
It's kind of had that feeling about it since the first reports in China. Just quietly away in the background of life.
Occasionally today I've been thinking flip next time I see people life is going to be different.
All of you who have put up about what the, oh heck, I've got this have my total admiration for just getting on with dealing with it. Good thing is we're all going to have someone who's going to have our back.
Just off the phone to my brother in law. He is currently at a campsite in the outback of Australia where he has been on holiday since February. His return flight via Singapore to Germany has just been cancelled. Unfortunately he has no smart phone, poor internet, no way to pay for anything online, and is only able to speak to me from a phone box using a prepaid card. So I have just bought him a ticket for Friday so he can get back home ASAP. It means cutting his trip short a week but I fear the longer he leaves it the worse the situation may get with international travel. Poor lad suffers enough anxiety as it is and always has his trips planned about a year in advance to the nth degree. This is really putting him outside of his comfort zone I know. It's also making my wife very nervous knowing he is stuck there. Still, it seems there are plenty more people in far worse situations, so we can't really complain.
In the back of my mind though, I do wonder if we’ll get a Boris U-turn on the bars and restaurants thing tomorrow…
Quite possibly. He's making up the politics side of it as he goes along, and when someone points out that businesses are going to fold all over the country and he'll have to pay their dole, he'll probably go 'oh, shit yeah, better chuck them some money then'
This is worse than 9/11. Nobody really knows what the effect of this is going to be & there is the possibility that it really could catastrophically destroy our society. I still think that is a remote possibility, but an awful lot of people seem unable to grasp the potential enormity of what we are facing & are whinging about holidays being cancelled etc..
