Looks like all my freelance theatre and events industry colleagues are now working in Tesco and the like. The Trucks are hauling food instead of scenery and gear and the shelves are being stacked by highly motivated Stage Managers and Designers and Technicians that thrive in a crisis and like to get things done in under 4 hours.
Gov.UK is very precise, and states one daily exercise session
Do that and don’t be a dick, as I said. I think you thought that I’d inferred you were a dick. I didn’t.
Courage, Drac
This. School mates of my 'little' niece (they're 24 now) are in their first year doctoring in the Basque NHS. Quite the baptism of fire. Saw an insta of them masked up sharing a taxi up to the hospital to start a shift and felt quite emotional, known them since they were little...
https://twitter.com/Plaid_Cymru/status/1242224932588847105/photo/1
Seems like I am not the only one that thinks this is ambiguous.
Courage, Drac.
👍🏻
"Dim" or "intrigued" by Sports Direct? I'm "intrigued" to see what's still open tomorrow. I think they should be shut like Decathlon but will Boris' mates continue trading? Only time will tell. And Evans Cycles from the same group, essential or not? What's if a Doctor's bike breaks down. You know I'd just shut the lot but I'm not Boris.
And Evans Cycles
Bike shops are on the exclusions from closing list I think
I think you thought that I’d inferred you were a dick. I didn’t.
Haha, yes I did.
My apologies
So is Home and Hardware Stores.
That covers the likes of B&Q, TK Maxx, Next etc. So many ways of getting around it all if you get creative. Add in that online can still deliver orders and you have a perfect mix for people to take the piss.
So,Trump thinks the USA needs to start opening up for business again "soon" as the medical "cure" is worse than the economic distress.
I never ever thought I would agree with anything Trump says...but I can see his point.
Whilst C-19 dominates the headlines, I've not seen any news about the breakdown of society but surely it won't take long to happen. Of course, if these lockdowns are removed "quickly" then the breakdown may not happen.
(And I'm not thinking of nice middle class England here...more the deprived ghettos in the larger metropolitan US areas)
Should we have a poll for how long with think the lockdowns will be in place?
I'll start with 8 weeks.
(BTW:I live in Canada so we are a little behind the UK in timelines though I suspect our lockdown will happen pretty soon)
More will have to come for the self employed. I suspect it will be loans to get through this period. Easiest way to do it is tax refunds, clawed back later.
why the **** should it be loans though when the employed are getting 80% of there wages paid.
my wife has lost all work as a self employed cleaner for mostly old folk and a few holiday cottages, i've had to put some work on hold so as not to be going into peoples houses some who are in the at risk group.
luckily i've got a few weeks worth of tiling to do in a empty house( bar a few other trades who will be in differant rooms) so will be going in tomorrow.
they really need to get a move on with some support for the self employed, what we could claim at the moment possibly wouldn't even cover the mortgage and bills.
So is Home and Hardware Stores.
That covers the likes of B&Q, TK Maxx, Next etc.
Next
To all of our customers,
We have made the decision to close our stores from today, Monday 23rd March, at 6pm, temporarily until further notice.
We’d like to take the opportunity to thank all of our staff who continue to be incredibly supportive of NEXT and we would also like to let customers know that we do appreciate their loyal support.
why the **** should it be loans though when the employed are getting 80% of there wages paid
For the same reasons we don’t get full sick pay, and all kinds of other protections that PAYE employees get. I’m not saying what I would like to happen, just what I think will happen. We will need income if we can’t work, but I suspect the government will provide it in a way that means we will pay it back if/when we can work in future.
I’d rather all workers were paid a subsistence income of the same amount while this is ongoing, not to be repaid directly at all, funded through borrowing (future taxation), but this government isn’t likely to act this way though, is it.
I wonder if my fridge will be delivered on Friday.. if not I'm royally screwed as mine is broken. Surely household electrical stores sell essentials..washing machines, fridges etc
Fingers crossed
Cv really does suck the boabie...
Did someone say TP
@dirtyrider - good to read.
@spev - just been in contact with our service centre for our vans at work who service commercial vehicles 24/7 and they're open. They service the local health trust's ambulances so hopefully they will be allowed to continue. ATS are also still available to change tyres for us, don't know about their retail provisions.
For the same reasons we don’t get full sick pay, and all kinds of other protections that PAYE employees get. I’m not saying what I would like to happen, just what I think will happen. We will need income if we can’t work, but I suspect the government will provide it in a way that means we will pay it back if/when we can work in future.
I’d rather all workers were paid a subsistence income of the same amount while this is ongoing, not to be repaid directly at all, funded through borrowing (future taxation), but this government isn’t likely to act this way though, is it.
yeah i get it with the sick pay and other stuff employees get and that there is some advantages of being self employed to make up for not getting the same.
agree with your last paragraph, these aren't normal times and all workers should be treated the same regaurdless of whether they are employed or self employed.
markgraylish - trump is obsessed with numbers and getting re-elected; is being massively irresponsible in suggesting the medical cure may be worse than the economic distress.
Re-opening shops and business won't make covid-19 go away.
Without a medical cure there won't be an economy.
Just consider some of the basic numbers - without getting into death rates or considering limited availability of ventilators and hospital standard PPE or relatively low presence in Africa and South America so far but when it starts to rip in those areas the spread could be terrifying.
Basic numbers - 67 days for 100k confirmed cases; 11 more days until that became 200k; 4 more days until 300k.
When this is done trump will have blood on his hands.
Without a medical cure there won’t be an economy.
Really? We know this will rip through the population and kill many hundreds of thousands of people with underlying medical conditions (and, presumably, limited life expectancy anyway) but for the huge majority of the population, it's just a bad case of flu (yes, I'm being deliberately flippant for effect).
But, I'm looking at the longer-term effects such a mass civil unrest (including looting and murder), societal breakdown, rampant inflation, Marshall law etc in some economies as a potential side effect of mass unemployment and "house arrest" for, effectively, extending the lives of the already sick.
Many of those who die of C-19 would almost certainly be dead already, if not for medical advances of the last 20-30 years.
See TJ's recent thread on here about dignity in dying. Many contributors on that thread said they'd prefer to end their own lives at a time of their own choosing yet as a society we still aren't adult enough to accept the finality of death and still cling to the belief that we must try to keep everyone alive waaaaay beyond nature's design limits.
Any test kits out there yet?
I should imagine Sports Direct will suffer a Ratners and die by a thousand cuts Social Media
Is this going to be enough to stop the virus? - non retail business is going to stay open...huge amount of chance for transmission amongst staff.
The confused messages and changing the wording in the tweeted announcement don't help...
My work have already thought up ways that this doesn't apply to us.
I knew they would, as soon as the announcement said 'cannot be done from home' rather than 'essential'. They have interpreted this as 'would be mildly inconvenient to arrange to do from home, like we should have done weeks ago when several staff suggested preparing for this eventuality'.
I'm sure they won't be the only irresponsible employer across the land. Wonder if the tone will change when someone close to the management gets ill, or if a rewording/tightening of the lockdown will force their hand.
I should imagine Sports Direct will suffer a Ratners and die by a thousand cuts Social Media
Its core demographic don't seem to be the demographic who care about Coronavirus
I’m sat in the bath before heading to work. I was going to answer MarkG’s comments but I can’t be bothered any more, I really can’t see how people don’t I understand why the virus needs to be controlled.
See you tonight folks.
Take care Drac
#dracforsupremeleader
Yep - you got this Drac
#dracforsupremeleader
There has been some really nasty comments and replies on here after many of us have asked about what is classed as travel to and from work unless absolutely necessary.
Many of us work in jobs that simply cannot be done from home. Also many of us don't have the luxury of an employer that cares about anything other than keeping their business going, regardless of their employees health.
I've been told by my employer that because we are workibg on site - 'it's work as normal'. There is not much that can be done when your employer takes this stance as by not going to work you will risk losing your job or simply not getting paid at all because the wording from the government is not specific enough.
Please try and understand that for many of us this is not because we want to keep working but because we are being told by our employers or site clients that work is to continue.
Morning folks
Bit of Withnail and I
Change down, man. Find your neutral space. You got a rush. It'll pass. Be seated.
Let it wash, take time, a lot of people will be thinking and feeling the same things.
Take care, take it in, embrace the pandemic pottering and don't chase too many rabbits.
That's me clocking on in the rabbit hole - lets keep it clean and tidy for when Drac gets back.
Question ref exercise...
What about walking my dog.
Shes 14 so only goes 1/4 mile twice a day.
So am If I walk her and then ride am I in breech?
With all these families and couples having to stay at home and with time on their hands, folk really need to use all means to avoid conception. The last thing the NHS needs is the maternity services being overburdened in a few months (we have no certainty how long this is going to go on for).
Plus pregnancy puts your household instantly into the High Risk category taking workers (could be essential workers) out of productive work (as household will need to stay at home for the duration of the outbreak).
Question ref exercise…
What about walking my dog.
Shes 14 so only goes 1/4 mile twice a day.
So am If I walk her and then ride am I in breech?
Of course you are, within the criteria of once a day that was laid out.
Play with the dog in the garden, throw it a stick 4000 times.
That’s me clocking on in the rabbit hole – lets keep it clean and tidy for when Drac gets back.
Oh, chapeau - totally agree.
Biggest worry would be being shopped to the authorities by the gammons.
If last weekend is anything to go by they'll be out in droves breaking the ban before anybody.
What about walking my dog.
Shes 14 so only goes 1/4 mile twice a day.
We're the same with a 13 year-old Basset hound that doesn't go far or fast, along with a 2 year-old Labrador with boundless energy.
My wife's gone out for an hour of solo walking, will come past the end of the road in an hour where we'll meet up to take both dogs to the local park and then I'll take the Labrador for a longer run whilst she takes the Basset hound home.
So my ex is with our 7 year old kids, an hours drive away. From the new rules I don’t get to see them whilst this is in force.
For all those with split families. there is an exception under the rules of visit vulnerable family members so that you can transfer children from home to home
You should only leave the house for one of four reasons.
● Any medical need, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person*.
*Where applicable, this includes moving children under 18 between their parents’ homes.
I was thinking I could get DIY stuff one because things could be delivered – but I’m not sure the staff at Travis Perkins or wherever mail order depot are going to be considered essential so they probably won’t be working either.
I have a greenhouse due to be delivered ... seedlings already sprouting and ready to transfer so we can start more food but hey ho... seems like growing your own food is a non-essential activity?
Can anyone advise on the 80% wage input from government?
Aby idea when it's due to be in place, I get paid weekly and as ive not had to go in today (and we dont get paid for being off), wondering how quickly if at all this will be in place??
It's the same for everyone at our workplace so basically left out to dry with immediate closure
Is the 80% wage contribution automatic now to every business who doesn't pay for being off? Or do they still have to go through the process of temporary redundancy/job retention?
I really can’t see how people don’t I understand why the virus needs to be controlled.
Selfish or Stupid.
Biggest disaster in my lifetime but we’ve got water,food,electricity ,Xbox live and Netflix. All you’ve got to do is sit tight and save lives.
In my childhood it was all about nuclear apocalypse.
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I should imagine Sports Direct will suffer a Ratners and die by a thousand cuts Social MediaPosted 1 hour ago
I wonder if Evans will really open today...were their turbo trainers always that expensive - Wahoo Kickr £1150 & Core £805
we’re their turbo trainers always that expensive – Wahoo Kickr £1150 & Core £805
Smells like the RRP they are Generally expensive thou.
CRC had the refurbs for £650 last week so people could be kickr’ing themselves for not buying (0% PayPal credit as well)
Also, don’t be a dick by confusing two different people and quoting one out of context. I (your second quote) was highlighting the vagueness of ....
etc
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I think the document in which the government state the rules trumps a tweet.
What you think is (respectfully) statistically irrelevant.
It's more what 64M people decide how to interpret and then if they decide to copy or not "everyone else"... (everyone else will be largely defined by who they see outside, supermarkets etc.)
we’re their turbo trainers always that expensive – Wahoo Kickr £1150 & Core £805
Smells like the RRP they are Generally expensive thou.
My bad does look like they’ve stuck £150 corona tax on them 🙁
Rumour is they will be announcing substantial package for self employed by end of week
A bit of an afterthought maybe, but think they're moving on it now
Slightly unfair, the rules and regs for self-employed types are complex and the Treasury needs to get most of the detail right before releasing it. If it's anything like us PAYE types the initial online information will be a bit lacking. It will be revised in short order. If you want to blame anyone for the delay try the accountancy profession as their constant quibbling over what is and isn't allowed for tax has lead to the complication and the delay.
Mr Sunak's team are earning their wages the past fortnight and they may well be the people who ensure our public servants remain un-politicised.
My bad does look like they’ve stuck £150 corona tax on them 🙁
It may look like that but remember American company. Drop shipping out of Amsterdam.
The pound has tanked against both due to our gov inaction Surprised they ain't costing more tbh.
To work or not to work ? My wife and I are both self employed gardeners.Our customers are generally 65+ and many live alone, for some we are the only contacts (usually) they have and often do a bit of shopping or pick up a pint of milk etc. So interpreting the rules we are allowed to work, however morally it seems wrong to take any risk so we have decided to remain at home and unfortunately earn nothing. However and this is where it smarts a little, the next door neighbour is a painter and dec and hes gone off to work, other one whos a banker (and always off sick) has gone in as has her boyfriend who repairs mobility scooters (cant see alot of need for that at the moment). So for now anyway it seems that if youre selfish or stupid you just do what you want.
My bad does look like they’ve stuck £150 corona tax on them 🙁
Thats what I assume, so Evans now selling for more than RRP to cash in on CV - suppose we do live in a capitalist society, but still, I'm disappointed
Surely they would have bought the Wahoo stock etc before the currency volatility kicked in?
So is Home and Hardware Stores.
That covers the likes of B&Q, TK Maxx, Next etc. So many ways of getting around it all if you get creative. Add in that online can still deliver orders and you have a perfect mix for people to take the piss.
Most people will have the same thought today as most people has the same thought at the weekend. One to sit out if you're serious about avoiding people. Let the Great Glitter Crisis of 2020 float by.
Disclaimer - other forms of craft materials and DIY activities are available. Just don't rush towards them just yet.
My firms told everyone to stay at home until they recieve proper guidance/assurances from main contractors (all of whom are still open today)
The reality is none of the sites can follow the social distancing rules. My site has 500+ people, one hoist, one toilet block (3 urinals and 3 cubicles), a canteen and a seperate drying room all off which would hold a handful of people if you correctly followed the 2m rule. Add to that the tube/train situation makes the whole thing untenable
Piers Morgan has this as his daily issue so I fully expect the Govt to fold on it later
Couple of plumbers on my road have headed off to work today...where, I have no idea. Already seen quite a few white vans trucking up and down the road - I’d love to think they’re all just going for food but I doubt it. Folk just interpreting the rules to their own ends.
I’m supposed to be laying a parquet floor in the ground floor of a house with nobody near me...obvs can’t do it from home, but have stayed put today until further clarification about the “...and you cannot do it from home...” (I paraphrase) bit of last night’s address.
I’m self-employed - I realise there will be further support for tax dodging scumbags like me - but I know loads of guys that’ll just say “**** it, I’m going to work until somebody with authority tells me not to...”
Anyone else just had a text message from the government?
French authorities are saying we are getting close to the peak, early April. So logical to have more cases and death.
I’m at work today, I was surprised that the motorway was nearly as busy as usual at 6:30am.
Although the traffic jam I can usually see from here at this time hasn’t started yet.
Piers Morgan has been a legend throughout this (words I'd never thought I'd type) He just got a site shutdown live on TV by shaming them 😀
This is a post from a critical care consultant on Reddit. He is working in London and is working on the front line against coronavirus. Make of it what you will:
"I'm sad to say that I do have the details, and there has been intense discussion about this over the past weeks. To answer your question: "herd immunity" would have been a beneficial outcome to slowing virus growth to a prolonged period of time. It was not a primary outcome.
That said, the official policy was wholly wrong and when all the dust has settled, when all the costs and lives have been counted, people have to make their governments accountable.
I'll tell you what happened in the UK.
Over the past decade, eminent figures in public health developed complex models that would help inform the UK response to a pandemic. The response plan would allow slow spread through a population and a number of deaths that would be deemed acceptable in relation to low economic impact. Timing of population measures such as social distancing would be taken, not early, but at a times deemed to have maximal psychological impact. Measures would be taken that could protect the most vulnerable, and most of the people who got the virus would hopefully survive. Herd immunity would beneficially emerge at the end of this, and restrictions could relax. This was a ground-breaking approach compared to suppressing epidemics. It was an approach that could revolutionise the way we handled epidemics. Complex modelling is a new science, and this was cutting edge.
But a model is only ever as good as the assumptions you build it upon. The UK plan was based on models with an assumption that any new pandemic would be like an old one, like flu. And it also carried a huge flaw - there was no accounting for the highly significant variables of ventilators and critical care beds that are key to maintaining higher survival numbers ( https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/health/2020/03/government-documents-show-no-planning-ventilators-event-pandemic).
So, come 2020 and COVID-19 causes disaster in China, Iran and Italy. Epidemiologists and doctors from around the world observe, and learn valuable lessons:
the virus is insidious with a long incubation, any population actions you take will only have an effect weeks later
the virus spreads remarkably quickly and effectively
the virus causes an unusually large proportion of patients to require invasive ventilatory support
early large scale testing, and social distancing measures, are effective at stopping exponential growth
stopping exponential growth is VITAL to preventing your critical care systems from being overwhelmed.
Everyone in the world could see these things. But despite this, very few governments chose to act.
The UK did the opposite of acting. In an act of what I see as sheer arrogance, they chose to do nothing, per the early stages of their disaster plan. There was some initial contact tracing, but this stopped when it was clear that there was significant community spread and exponential growth. And after this? They did not ramp up testing capabilities. They did not encourage social distancing. They did not boost PPE supply, or plan for surge capacity. They ignored advice from the WHO, public health experts in other country; epidemiologists, scientists and doctors in their own. I can tell you with certainty now that they did not even collect regular statistics for how many COVID patients were being admitted to critical care in the UK. They did nothing.
What were they thinking? Maybe that what had happened in China, and was happening in Italy, couldn't possibly happen in the UK, right? It was impossible. The persisted with the original plan with no modification.
Well COVID-19 is not flu. That is perfectly clear. And it was clear that the UK numbers were following, exponentially, the same trend as Italy. But still the government and their advisers stuck to their guns and put out reassuring messages. I would ask here - why did they still think we would be different?
Finally, a team at Imperial informing the government's response put up-to-date COVID-19 data into the historical models that the UK plan was based on ( https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf), and predicted in a best case scenario 250,000 deaths and excess of 8x surge capacity of UK intensive cares. They concluded that our approach was wrong, and that "Epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time".
Where are we now?
The government has instituted a number of measures that they previously called "unscientific", but has not mandated them.
We are far, far into the exponential curve both in deaths and critical care numbers, and there is at least two weeks more growth until any of the half-hearted measures taken might kick in.
We do not have sufficient testing capability for even hospital patients, who sometimes wait days for a test result. There are not enough tests for anyone in the community, or any healthcare workers who might have symptoms.
Hospitals are scrambling to produce surge capacity, and several smaller hospitals in London are now overwhelmed with COVID and out of ventilators.
There is clearly not enough PPE in the country and we are rushing to secure supplies.
Don't believe the UK government propaganda when they say that they are only advancing along the same plan at a faster pace. It is total bollocks. Their plan was wrong, kaput, totally broken. They chose to perform an experiment on an entire population, a trial of 'new epidemic mitigation strategy in UK' vs 'epidemic suppression in rest of the world'. They didn't listen to other experts from all over the world, and in this arrogance they did not observe the lessons or data that was there, plain to see. They have backtracked completely and are now doing what most world public health experts and what the WHO asked them to do in the first place. They've wasted a month, at least.
Will they suffer? Hell no. It will be the vulnerable in the population, the unlucky young, and the medical staff at the front line.
When the final counts return in months or a years time, don't let them get away with it."
It may look like that but remember American company. Drop shipping out of Amsterdam.
The pound has tanked against both due to our gov inaction Surprised they ain’t costing more tbh.
I did wonder this dollar/euro/pound but the wahoo store were showing no stock and the normal 999ish.
Bog roll and kickrs and mass trips to snowden some of this is surreal.
I got the last delivery from Travis Perkins yesterday, some fence panels and posts for a job I keep putting off, but now have plenty of time for.
Got a text message this morning saying they have closed all branches.
Slightly unfair, the rules and regs for self-employed types are complex and the Treasury needs to get most of the detail right before releasing it.
Yeah I understand why they want to get it right and appreciate why it can't be done overnight!
I think we all (including government) sat around watching Wuhan , then Italy & didn't start planning ahead properly, 3weeks ago the budget had allocated £12bn for coronavirus, with hindsight that seems tiny now.
It looks like only Germany started taking this seriously enough early enough (they were checking for ill people on inbound flights from 27th Jan)
This is all a process init, I can imagined there will be another week of announcements. The whole lockdown thing isn't really something that can be achieved overnight.
Overall you have to look over the past week as say how are things progressing, and I think everyday, things are slower more and more.
I´d expected it´ll take about week to slow the rest of it down.
They defo need to come out and support the self employed next, there´s 5 million in that category alone. Personally, easy for me as i wfh anyway, my younger brother cancelled all his jobs yesterday for the foreseeable, he fits kitchens, but an awful lot are going to have to be told and won´t stop till they get more help.
You´d imagine there´s a quite few business that are going to have to be told to shut.
I think it´s basically like trying to stop a juggernaut though it´s just not possible to close down overnight.
I´d expect it to take about a further week of announcements..
That conclusion will be apparent to many. Although I will bet the approval ratings will say that most think the gov did "a good job". I hope not. Boris & co either didn't care, or didn't listen, and dithered for the few crucial weeks they had to get this stuff in order.
Now we must ride the bigger curve. Hopefully we will see "only" as much death as Italy will.
They defo need to come out and support the self employed next, t
80% of average over last 3 years, I think this is in the emergency bill?
Round here the traffic is 1% of normal. It looks like 5am on Sunday not 9 am on a Tuesday
mrmonkfinger
Member
They defo need to come out and support the self employed next, t80% of average over last 3 years, I think this is in the emergency bill?
Aye, seen that yesterday, think it´s just an amendment, so remains to be seen.
In another fine display of British competency, I see the tube is still crowded because they decided to cut passengers and....wait for it.....services as well!
How do they expect you to evidence the average self employed earnings of the past three years? If it’s anything like a spousal visa historical financials section, it will be a total nightmare. If HMRC do the work themselves I will eat my shorts as they don’t even bother doing it for the 6 months financials required for certain visa applications. They’ll collapse under the weight of the work.
Anyone else just had a text message from the government?
No, be very careful about phishing, criminals will see this situation as an opportunity.
I had the alert, I clicked the link because I like...well....doing stupid things....took me to the genuine gov website...no login or details asked for.....nothing attempted to hijack my phone.
mrmonkfinger
That conclusion will be apparent to many. Although I will bet the approval ratings will say that most think the gov did “a good job”. I hope not. Boris & co either didn’t care, or didn’t listen, and dithered for the few crucial weeks they had to get this stuff in order.
My view on this stuff, is that it's too late to make a difference anyway, so I really don't understand the need to make it an issue right now. We are obviously on a clear plan at the minute, so we need to follow that.
I don't think noise and competence theories help at the minute. There will come a time for it.
But there's only one show in town that can deal wih this now, and that is the government. So we're in it regardless and must place our trust in them.
I'm fairly sure enquires will follow.
How do they expect you to evidence the average of the past three years?
Tax return would seem the obvious. Not good for Amazon and Apple
This is really bugging me...
So, right, your colleague and your boss has realised your wife is one of the vulnerable people. They suggest you WFH. You decide to stay in the office as there's work you can't do at home (even though this work could be put off to a later date).
That evening your wife gets one of the "you are vulnerable" texts - gives advice which includes stay 2m distance from her co-habitants.
Next day, you come into work again. Your end of the office there's 3 people, including you, one of whom is sat in the next desk.
Would you stay in the ****ing office?? This colleague is probably one of the most intelligent people I've ever met! And yet...
This colleague is probably one of the most intelligent people I’ve ever met!
Intelligent does not equal sensible.
In my experience they diverge rapidly, the further up the intelligence scale you go.
@rbw
They've capped it at 2.8k per month. My guess is, as you say, they won't have the resource to dig very deep, whatever the chosen method.
Either way it has been very welcome bit of news at Casa Monkfinger.
Intelligent does not equal sensible.
Oh, I'm fully aware of this - and he's definitely not short of common sense. Just in this situation, he seems to be in some kind of denial. I actually contacted my boss on Sunday saying this guy should stay home, but they won't make him. Ah well, guess it's not my problem.
raybanwomble
Member
I had the alert, I clicked the link because I like…well….doing stupid things….took me to the genuine gov website…no login or details asked for…..nothing attempted to hijack my phone.
That’s good, but just remember to exercise the on line discipline you would normally do, orgainised crime is not sitting back thinking “oh we’ll have a few weeks off as it’s a national crisis”, quite the opposite
its an 'official' text message, govt have now confirmed it.
They "confirmed" it before it was sent out.
@seosamh77 I'm with you Joe, this government is the only show in town now, and let's face it, Boris won't be making any decisions anyway, at least until it comes to bitty time. 😊
Hope yer well mate.
No text here. Just the chosen few? Are they selecting people for the B Ark?