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I’m not picking on you, honest

Not at all. I'd really like to know too, because the FTP has taken a bit of a hit! (300 down to 175W). I'm indoor cycling for an hour on Zwift or Rollers at the moment coupled with walks of up to two hours at 4 mph. And as luck would have it, have symptoms again - cough mainly and some lung pain. I haven't really had a sense of smell to speak of since April so I don't bother with that sign any more. That includes "off chicken" smells apparently!

Now I’m back I’ve been coughing more than I have done in the last 2 weeks

Cold air is a standard challenge for bronchoconstriction. Not at all surprising. It's one reason for me riding in the garage.

Just want to say I received the first vaccine dose this morning and so far haven’t developed new ways of telecommunicating or met Bill Gates.

Would that be speedster@biogates.org just out of interest? 😉


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 4:07 pm
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This is Bill talking: quiet servile beings and adhere to the plan.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 4:21 pm
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FTFY

Anyhow, it's the second dose that has the microchip. Why waste the money on people who die from anaphylaxis shortly after getting the first one? 🙂


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 4:24 pm
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Questions the antivaxxers don't want you to ask 😁


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 4:37 pm
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If it's a choice of that ffffing paperclip or the virus I am now 50:50


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 4:45 pm
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Just want to say I received the first vaccine dose this morning and so far haven’t developed new ways of telecommunicating or met Bill Gates.

Full comms only starts a week after the second jab. 🙂


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 4:48 pm
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If you hear this when you get up in the morning, then seek advice from a QAnon specialist.

sound


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 5:02 pm
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Just want to say I received the first vaccine dose this morning and so far haven’t developed new ways of telecommunicating or met Bill Gates.

You'll need to download and install an obscure driver before you get full functionality


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 5:02 pm
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I know I’m well down the priority list… but I hope I get this one…

another sound


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 5:08 pm
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I want this one


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 5:49 pm
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Very Bladerunner… not a Microsoft one though… are Sony chipping us as well?! It’s worse than I feared.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 5:59 pm
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If the mRNA vaccines are the future does the Oxford one sound like this


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 6:05 pm
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are Sony chipping us as well?! It’s worse than I feared.

Proprietary software, so only some of us need to worry.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 6:18 pm
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Sorry what 53 000 cases today!


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 6:26 pm
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Serious question time.
If you'd had covid earlier in the year and were subjected to a reinfection around now, would you expect to get mild symptoms for a day or two as your body identified and dealt with the virus, or would it all happen without you noticing it?


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 6:27 pm
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Most likely wouldnt notice I imagine


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 6:37 pm
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Sorry what 53 000 cases today!

Reported today, after a long period where some reporting sources would've been slower than usual (same caveat also applies to other reported stats). It's still not going to be a pretty picture but as has been said before there is a lot of "noise" in testing figures so they're not a great metric to track, but if you do want to track them look at 7 day counts by sample date rather than the headline news figure.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 6:40 pm
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Reported today, after a long period where some reporting sources would’ve been slower than usual

True but those were record breaking days too so the weekly average will be huge. Its a pretty big dead canary.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 7:01 pm
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7 day average

No idea what's going on in Wales!

https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 7:05 pm
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or would it all happen without you noticing it?

You might notice symptoms of immune response - headache, aches, chills. You might not experience upper respiratory tract infection: cough, loss of smell etc. The new strain may be more infectious and may cause infection earlier (tighter ACE2 binding, lower viral titer for infection). To be honest we don't know.

I get repeated immune responses (primarily a very sore neck due to a longstanding whiplash injury), worsened psoriasis (unless covid when it improves). But it is early days for reinfection for a coronavirus.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 7:08 pm
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As I understand it the Swiss aren't very good at giving out much info on their covid 19 situation. A lot of the residents there have almost led normal lives.
Each Canton have their own rules about what you should do.
E.G At Christmas one could have people visiting but from any household with up to 6. Possible the info came in late for the skiers. However imo if you go abroad anywhere you should be prepared to self isolate and adhere to the rules of the land.

As for Hand, face and space, I have said all along that it needs to be drummed into people. There are too many thinking the vaccination will stop them getting covid19 and once they have the jab they're immune. I agree with Vicky Pea, that more should be made of the fact there is not going to be a normal, only a new normal and we must all socially distance ourselves, wear face coverings (correctly) and wash our hands, even when you've had both vaccinations. I can't understand why more isn't being said about this.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 7:16 pm
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https://twitter.com/dgahk/status/1343729142282530819/photo/1

makes you think


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 7:59 pm
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😂😂🤣


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 8:01 pm
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All that makes me think is that the twitter poster is either being a wind up or a twa*


 
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Thanks TiRed. I ask this from my bed where I'm suffering from headache, aches and chills but have a normal temperature and just a slight cough.
Way back in February/March my teacher wife was pretty ill and lost her sense of smell for about 6 months. The whole family was ill as well but less severely. Of course there was no testing back then.
Two weeks ago it swept through my wife's department with 4 cases in 18 staff then last week my daughter was told to self isolate after cases in her year. She was a bit ill for two days. Now 7 days later I'm feeling rubbish but am confident it's peaked after 24rs. Am awaiting test results.
More curious than anything although it's of course a teeny tiny bit worrying.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 8:12 pm
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That welsh graph takes some explaining.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 8:15 pm
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ICUs in London reportedly about to start sending patients outside the capital, potentially as far as Yorkshire.

The only comfort is that at least this is happening somewhere where the politicians might take note of it for once.

And this is without the effects of the final week of hopping on the Tube to go Christmas shopping, and Christmas itself.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 9:55 pm
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The only good thing is schools broke up on 18th, so that is through the system case wise by now.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 10:08 pm
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ICUs in London reportedly about to start sending patients outside the capital, potentially as far as Yorkshire.

Bet London hospitals wouldn't take patients from up here if it was the other way round.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 10:42 pm
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I haved lived in Switzerland for more than a decade.

As I understand it the Swiss aren’t very good at giving out much info on their covid 19 situation.

The Government releases figures and information daily:

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/situation-schweiz-und-international.html

in four languages as well as a Friday afternoon press conference/report from the government.

A lot of the residents there have almost led normal lives.

not really, no complete lockdown but life in the last 10 months was not normal.

Each Canton have their own rules about what you should do.

The Kantons do have their own rules but central government has the final word.

It's not great here at the moment but I am not in fear of death, nor do I feel that my liberty is being eroded.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 10:45 pm
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Bet London hospitals wouldn’t take patients from up here if it was the other way round

I'm sorry but that is absolute rubbish

If they have capacity any hospital will take patients


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 10:50 pm
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Scenes from places like the Trafford Centre are truly depressing. What is wrong with people. We've just had an orgy of consumerism with Christmas day, why do people need a second one, this year of all years.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 11:07 pm
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I’m sorry but that is absolute rubbish

If they have capacity any hospital will take patients

I think you underestimate the role of politics in our beloved NHS.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 11:13 pm
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For whoever asked about getting COVID twice. My partner first got it in April/march (can’t really remember), had textbook symptoms. She then got it a second time some weeks ago, this time it was dizziness, headaches and cough. Whilst she recovered from both she did say the second time seems to have worse after effects than the first one.

Maybe she got the new strain of COVID the second time round, who knows, the joys of being in a COVID ward and paying a tenner in parking a day.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 11:25 pm
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Whilst she recovered from both she did say the second time seems to have worse after effects than the first one.

Antibody-dependent enhancement is a thing. A low level of antibodies help shuttle virus into cells to enhance severity of infection. It was noted for the Dengue virus vaccine. I hope she is feeling better.

@eulach thank you for that update. If only we had the same coordination. Healthcare is a devolved issue. Until it isn't. Analysing the data has been a challenge - at least the nations upload the data to the govenrnment dashboard now.


 
Posted : 29/12/2020 11:38 pm
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Good stuff this morning, hopefully speed of vaccinations will ramp up now.

Baboonz did she have 2 positive tests? If not, then you'll never know.


 
Posted : 30/12/2020 9:43 am
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this time it was dizziness, headaches and cough

This is what I've had, along with loss of taste and smell.

The cough has been accompanied by a blocked/snotty nose though, so not sure if I've had a cold at the same time.

The guy who gave it me, also had the same.


 
Posted : 30/12/2020 9:47 am
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ICUs in London reportedly about to start sending patients outside the capital, potentially as far as Yorkshire.

Aberdeen icu has been taking patients from Glasgow area for ages.


 
Posted : 30/12/2020 9:53 am
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ICUs in London reportedly about to start sending patients outside the capital, potentially as far as Yorkshire.

That can't be right - ICU beds are empty. At least according to the ususal right wing stooges and aided by censorship of press reporting.


 
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Thanks @TiRed all is good now thankfully.

Baboonz did she have 2 positive tests? If not, then you’ll never know.

Well for the first one she never got a test because testing nhs personnel was a low priority, however I had to take her for half a day to the hospital since she was getting worse and the consultant said she was 99% sure it was COVID. The timing fit perfectly when she had unknowingly been exposed to a COVID positive patient in inadequate circumstances.

For the second one she did get a positive from test and trace.

Another of her friends who works in ICU London also reported having COVID twice with similar symptoms.


 
Posted : 30/12/2020 10:20 am
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Just going back to the numbers for yesterday - some of it was explained by catching up from the weekend. With Monday being a bank holiday would yesterday's numbers still be depressed and today being the catch up one?

Whilst she recovered from both she did say the second time seems to have worse after effects than the first one.

Whilst I still don't know if the second time was a re-infection or just a flare up my experience was similar but milder symptoms. Recovery definitely took a lot longer - much more fatigue and brain fug.


 
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Just going back to the numbers for yesterday – some of it was explained by catching up from the weekend. With Monday being a bank holiday would yesterday’s numbers still be depressed and today being the catch up one?

Yes, but we are getting to the stage now where daily testing pure and simple is no longer a reliable indicator. Seven day average is better, but hospital admissions and deaths are more reliable. Even admissions could become unreliable, as a lack of capacity could lead to certain older/sicker patients being triaged to receive palliative care outside hospital. Once capacity is exhausted, admissions will stop climbing.


 
Posted : 30/12/2020 11:01 am
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What's going on with the Nightingale hospitals? Are they being used?


 
Posted : 30/12/2020 11:31 am
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independent has run a piece


 
Posted : 30/12/2020 11:40 am
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No staff.

I wonder if they might end up being regional vaccination hubs?


 
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