Sadly I think dear old Boris has forgotten his recent experiences and is being chased by his donors who have him by the balls to reopen the economy.
which sadly means a whole load more people are going to get shafted
the interesting bit will be how much people comply and actually go outside again. I suspect it will be less than they hope.
>>If we had 97,845 of real tests conducted on the day would that honestly be a failure?
Indeed not – which is what makes HandCock’s compulsive lying on the subject so remarkable.
Tests down again today to 69K, I guess this is closer to the true capacity. Find it insulting they think they can fool the public with 100K+ tests “in a day” rather than 100k+ tests “per day” as promised. What is worse is I assume they had to stockpile test kits in the weeks before the end of the month to pull this deception off. This means people would have been denied tests that were potentially available earlier just to make the govt look good. Unbelievable.
Unbelievable
Not really
grahamt1980
SubscriberSadly I think dear old Boris has forgotten his recent experiences and is being chased by his donors who have him by the balls to reopen the economy.
The mad thing is, an early reopening will harm the economy, just as the late lockdown has. But then a lot of finance etc isn't the real economy; they can make money from fluctuations from good to bad and bad to good.
Agreed, but this is the production brought to you by the producers of brexit.
financiers it is
Aside but, isn't it about time we just separate the stock market, futures etc from real commodities and companies, and create fake stocks etc that people can speculate on, short, and otherwise piss around with, without devastating the real economy that actually produces stuff?
It would be sensible yes. Sadly I don't see it happening while so many in power have their fingers in the pot
I was sent the following aphorism today from my ITU;
Easing of lockdown doesn't mean it's over, it just means we've got a bed in ITU for you.
Northwind speaks sense.
Find it insulting they think they can fool the public
Stop playing Cummings game… he wants the country chattering about “it’s 70,000 tests, not 100,000”… that is the whole point. Don’t help him.
Sadly I think dear old Boris has forgotten his recent experiences and is being chased by his donors who have him by the balls to reopen the economy.
That was just some media myth in a similar vein to the reforming influence of responsibility of presidency on Trump. Or people reading Boris not liking the term austerity as a portent of the end of Austerity. Like tests and Brexit - not so much achieved more realigned and rebranded.
Still on tests - today he got over excited and promised 200,000 tests. Didn't he previously promise 250,000 around the time of the 100,000 one. Even now it seems today's figure is being downgraded by number 10.
It was said with tongue firmly in cheek, the only thing he would have gotten out of the experience is that in his head he now has more evidence of his divine providence.
Anyway back to coronavirus.Whatdo we think the relaxing will mean for next week?
More outdoor sports and some purple back at work?
Imagine having to resign from a position working for Boris Johnson because you’ve been shagging a married woman, I mean, how unlucky is that?
I must admit I did chuckle at that.
Silly old Ferguson. Why couldn't he keep it in his pants for a couple of months? It has played right into the "Brilliant Brexity British Bulldog Boris Bashes Virus and relaxes lockdown to defy hypocritical so-called experts again - what a guy" narrative.
I bet Cummings practically jizzed himself over this when he found out about it.
In England and Wales in the year up to weekending April 23, an extra 43,600 people have died in 2020 compared with previous years.
What is the deaths under figure? We have an extra 43,600 deaths but there will also have been a reduction - less road traffic fatalities for example. I'm not thinking this is going to be massive but there must be an impact? The Covid figure would be higher than the 43,600.
It's not recorded, although at peak about 45% of those deaths are COVID19 recorded cause. But total mortality is really the only number that matters. It is also the only number that is unequivocal.
Whatdo we think the relaxing will mean for next week?
I'm more concerned if we will even get to Sunday without Boris getting overly excited about VE Day and releasing the hordes through inferred consent. I suppose I should be thankful he's not doing daily briefings at the moment. Tomorrow had the potential to be carnage if he got high on nostalgia and given a full rambling response. At least it's going to be a cold one so it should keep people down.
In my little world. Numbers are definitely picking up. Latest provision run - mostly cars, mostly two people / families, saw my first drive in mountain bikers and parked up walkers. Main road past the house is busy during the day but is definitely on a business traffic cycle - pretty much car free after 19:00 until 07:00.
On changes, I think it's more likely to be more services - the things that are already planned. Council tips and the like, maybe Garden Centres and Football as the big ticket items. Going off the route in - it'll be vague enough to confuse people. Probably the more crucial thing is where the instructions set the piss take point or how far people feel they can bend the rules. If it gets too far towards shake it all about Boris then we're going to be off and running with another round of infection.
Lockdown really is fading fast round here. Big bunch of teenagers having a communal barbecue on a local country park this evening.
And (the shame of it) a group of four mountain bike riders and another highly unlikely to be cohabiting pair out tonight in the local woods and clearly not giving a shit.
Verges near the closed car parks littered with cars. Unlikely to be cohabiting pair of female horse riders out too.
Family (at least three generations cohabiting apparently) sat shoulder to shoulder on a bench whilst the kids are rock climbing.
I'd say there's been a small uptick in non-compliance around here. Not huge. Roads are still very quiet. Definitely a few more folk driving to walk/ride, though I've not seen any groups that didn't genuinely look like a family.
Concern here is that cases/deaths locally are still rising and we don't want to be dragged into an early change just because of where London is on the curve.I expect ScotGov to fight any relaxation for next week but that will just send more confused messages, especially as the Scottish news outlets still feature Westminster rather than Holyrood/PM rather than FM.
The great unwashed dont give a ****.. it appears.
Been out today first time in 9 weeks and it looked like a.normal Wednesday in my part of the world.
That's going to be the big challenge - people have already moved to a new position. If the government gets it wrong, there'll be a big jump. I'd rather get past both Bank Holidays without too many major changes. Being at the more cautious / jaded / suffering from a general degree of cognitive bias when it comes to the nations favourite Labrador end of things I'm feeling it's a bit like Dunkirk on the Bojo war analogy scale.
Been out today first time in 9 weeks and it looked like a.normal Wednesday in my part of the world.
Same. Nervously ventured out to get my sons medication from a pharmacy, I couldnt distinguish today from a pre-covid day.
They've already shown more cases rising and with the governments view of exposure based on nhs coping ability it very much feels like venturing outdoors is playing russian roulette with your health.
There were plenty of non-conforming people out and about on my ride this evening, cars parked in verges, dog walkers congregating, families meeting other families for a stroll in the park etc. The main parks here were busy with sunbathers ans an ice cream van had turned up too!
Lockdown might as well be over.
Lockdown might as well be over.
it never really started?
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To paraphrase what Sgt. Willard said to Colonel Kurtz….
Captain Willard please...
Sorry for besmirching one of your relatives Willard.
Got to say in my neighbourhood people still pretty well behaved. But I'm expecting things to go mental any day now thanks to lack of messaging from government. Have they made any preparations for easing lockdown at all?
In other news, the Daily Mail online has issued a commemorative 'VE day coin. The accompanying copy initially said celebrating Britain's victory 'over' Europe. Been changed now.
Lincoln steadily becoming more busy.
Branch of KFC re-opened for drive thru/click'n'collect today and, predictably, cars queueing from both directions to get in.
How shit must their lives be that, at the first opportunity, they migrate to KFC for an infusion of grease and reconstituted chicken bits made from mechanically recovered slurry?
Social distancing seemed pretty well observed at my local aldi today
Saw 4 youths hanging out in the woods on my ride today, but that's exactly same as has been since day 1 of lockdown
Everyone else seems to be sticking to it incredibly well, at least round here
Like a circus around rivington complete with bell ends n disposable bbqs...
Apparently the Neil Ferguson model was not very good. Any of the IT bods on here have any comment on this.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/
despite what Maggie said there is such a thing as society.
Too bloody right. We, as parents, have been showing that one needs to look out for the neighbours since our two were small. We did this to prove the old witch wrong and will continue until either the virus gets me or old age.
I really want a KFC now.
I’d rather get past both Bank Holidays without too many major changes.
Agreed. But I’m fully expecting leaks, quotes from ‘sources’ in the papers, and planned ‘loose lips’ apparently off the cuff comments in interviews to be used to start things off from tomorrow night onwards… people will be nudged out of the current arrangements, not given a clear path out. If it goes wrong then, it won’t be because of top line government advice… it’ll be the public ‘misunderstanding’ and the government can just repeat ‘existing’ messages, rather than having to officially roll back on any ‘end of lock down’ announcements.
Yep haven't felt the urge for a bargain bucket in ages but Frank has now made me hungry...
Just don’t have the fries.
Is there a more chavvy and squalid activity than disposable BBQ's in public places? I just don't understand it. Same with BBQ's in general IMHO and the British obsession with sun. Having worked in the Middle East and Africa I don't see the sun as my friend and stay out of it.
Kelvin - agree, don't have the fries....or anything else.
Having worked in the Middle East and Africa I don’t see the sun as my friend and stay out of it.
Here in Vitamin D deficient Scotland we have to go out during our annual sunny day in order to survive the next 364.
Well, half of us do - obviously it’s not safe for gingers.
I can get onboard with disposable bbq’s in public places, particularly during this time, being chavvy, but BBQ’s in general? Odd.
I don't believe Caucasians really need to actively seek sunlight to get enough Vit D. From what I've read you don't need more than 15-30 mins or so. You defiantly don't need to tan in the sun and I use loads of sub-block.
kelvin
Subscriberit’ll be the public ‘misunderstanding’
It'll not even be that, it'll be the bloody awful public refusing to do what they're told. Why spin it as "misunderstanding" when you can make it a blame game?
Questions that probably need to be asked to the Editor of the Telegraph
1. How long have you known about this?
2. Have you released this story now to distract from Tory party failures
3. seeing as you normally lionise the Jizz fountain that is Johnson for exactly this behaviour, don’t you think this is somewhat hypocritical of you?
Mleh…Apart from the first one, I think anyone with half a brain can answer the others already
On a more serious note, I was thinking that with the focus on Neil Ferguson’s visitor being married, exactly what is the PM’s marital status? By a (I am sure totally unrelated) coincidence the news of the PM’s divorce being finalised was released yesterday, negating awkward questions about who is doing what with a married person.
Is this something people inside No. 10 were looking at and planning in expectation of bad news hitting?
Apparently the Neil Ferguson model was not very good. Any of the IT bods on here have any comment on this.
Scary reading on some of the comments!
IT bods on here have any comment on this.
Not an IT bod, but there is a world of difference between coding to solve one academic problem (which was seasonal influenza in the U.K.) and industrial code to run, say, an Airbus.
I’m surprised that the seed doesn’t regenerate the same outputs, but nothing else. I now code all my problems using a validated platform for ease of QC n a simpler language that is maintained externally (not R!).
But the model was only one of several that helped inform decision making. The decision was robust to the model assumptions. But that is over looked in the clamour too blame. Conservatively, lockdown has saved at least 100k lives. The cost is another debate.
