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A government that dithered and delayed on the second lockdown after dithering and delaying on the first lockdown is now dithering and delaying on the press conference to announce an end to the dither and delay on lockdown.
David Schneider

The press conference has been delayed because a turd is proving resistant to polish, a pig is refusing to wear lipstick & a Prime Minister is at war with observable reality.
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Posted : 31/10/2020 6:59 pm
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Sweepstake -
I'll take no lockdown,
Introduction of tier 4a+ everywhere,
You have to have a starter with your meal,
Announcement at midnight,
To come into force a fortnight from the day after last Wednesday.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:02 pm
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I’m amazed how they can be this disorganised and have no plan, after 8 months…

Nine months plus, if you go for the case of missing COBRA meetings.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:05 pm
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Full lockdown

Apart from schools

And apart from essential businesses

Companies can choose to be essential businesses

Oh and hunting, the parliament bar and Dominic Cummings are obviously exempt


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:05 pm
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Suggestion it is delayed due to this:
https://twitter.com/NEUnion/status/13225­86657535700992


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:06 pm
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Nine months plus, if you go for the case of missing COBRA meetings

It just amazes me. If I run a meeting without an agenda I get chewed out. How can a government work on whims?


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:07 pm
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Suggestion it is delayed due to this:
https://twitter.com/NEUnion/status/13225­86657535700992/blockquote >

Gone?


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:08 pm
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Try this

https://twitter.com/NEUnion/status/1322586657535700992


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:09 pm
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Mentioned that at the top of this page, the unions have had enough and are throwing their weight around so that their members don't burn out or die.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:11 pm
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Boris is watching the rugby...

On the predictions, I have no idea how PHE/Cambridge can legitimately predict 1000 deaths/day tomorrow. That's just bobbins as @thecaptain mentioned. My projection if nothing changes (well obviously they will) - deaths are not a model fit. Ratio is more like 5 rather a week later. It doesn't predict a peak in all regions and the UK is a sum of four countries, and England the sum of seven NHS regions. Dashed lines are the previous Spring peak. Nothing confidential here and leak-free!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:12 pm
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I’m amazed how they can be this disorganised and have no plan, after 8 months…

You clearly don't work for Royal Mail. If you did that'd come as no surprise at all...!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:25 pm
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Iam front line Nhs and not particularly keen to get a rushed vaccine pumped into me and many of the surgeons I work with are saying they won’t be having it until it’s been out 6months+


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:28 pm
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If he doesn't do this conference soon the BBC will need him to do it through the medium of dance.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:29 pm
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The numbers of patients in the trials are really big. Yeah the trials are moving fast but certainly the one i have awareness of is being run with the full level of scrutiny. If not more scrutiny from the regulators


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:30 pm
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Have they lost Boris?

Someone left the door open, didn't they...


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:32 pm
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Maybe he's going to be the surprise celebrity on it? Usually a way of reviving a stalled career.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:32 pm
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The door to the fridge hopefully


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:33 pm
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Iam front line Nhs and not particularly keen to get a rushed vaccine pumped into me and many of the surgeons I work with are saying they won’t be having it until it’s been out 6months+

Since when the **** did anyone listen to surgeons on matters of immunology, you’d get a more sensible answer from a cockerpoo.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:33 pm
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If he doesn’t do this conference soon the BBC will need him to do it through the medium of dance.

It's already been done as song and dance. If we are just down to dance then we are well and truly stuffed.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:35 pm
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Didn't go well for TM when she tried it.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:37 pm
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Boris is watching the rugby…

For sale, one OBE, brand new in box, never worn, pet and smoke free home....


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:38 pm
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Where is this pillock, thank goodness this isnt wartime or something.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:43 pm
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Has he just given up?

How can you announce a press conference when you aren't ready to speak?

I'm expecting a half hearted lockdown that, once again, completely misses the point


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:44 pm
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Just remembered what the date is, Boris is off Trick-or-Treating isn't he!

He'll be overly full of sugar and dressed like a skeleton.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:44 pm
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The BBC have Gupta on spouting shite. First time my lad has seen her speak. "She's talking bollocks" summed it up.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:44 pm
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BBC news trying for ‘balance’ again… they’ve had to resort to a nice long chat with Gupta again. At what point does opinion just become dangerous misinformation? She’s their new Nigel Lawson.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:44 pm
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I reckon schools are now going to shut and they are working out all the details.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:45 pm
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Are you all forgetting the date
Its Halloween
Boris is out trick or treating around Westminster witj the Cobra committee.
Trying to get some sweets and asking the general public what they think he shpuld do next
Because he hadnt a clue


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:46 pm
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If he doesn’t do this conference soon the BBC will need him to do it through the a medium of dance

FTFY


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:46 pm
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Beeb scraping the bottom of the barrel with Gupta. Shame after a good piece with Devi Sridhar.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:46 pm
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Yep, teacher friends are saying that the unions are threatening to withdraw them all if they have to stay open.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:47 pm
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I reckon schools are now going to shut and they are working out all the details.

That would make sense. Therefore you are wrong.


 
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I wish the only way to contact him was through a medium


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:48 pm
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That would make sense. Therefore you are wrong

Haha!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:48 pm
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Here we go.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:48 pm
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And 2 slides in...it's all gone wrong


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:50 pm
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Whiskers plots! Wow, how very on trend!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:51 pm
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The heat maps are hurting my eyes


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:52 pm
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These charts are hilariously awful


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:52 pm
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This is a real Halloween nightmare


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:53 pm
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Someone has just gone nuts with excel


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:54 pm
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This is like when you have to do a presentation at work on short notice, so you just throw everything at excel...


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:56 pm
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Is the plan to bore everyone to death before they contract Covid?


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:57 pm
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The data is fine in itself, but who thought presenting it to the nation like this was a good idea?


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:57 pm
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Twice as bad? Hid voice wavered when he said that, like he doesn't believe it.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:58 pm
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These blokes are clearly incredibly inteligent....I'm fairly thick and I could have told you what would happen with regards to a second wave. They've had how long to prepare a second lockdown presentation....and this is the shit that they come up with. The teaching Unions are right to be kicking up a fuss, but I work on a peripatetic basis in a number of schools.....they have done literally zero prep for schools shutting again. You can't pin all of that on the useless **** that we've got playing at Prime Minister....it's been clear for all to see for ages ffs!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 7:59 pm
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We’re so lucky to have TiRed and others preparing us for understanding these graphs.

I don’t think we’re typical for the audience though.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:00 pm
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@Tired please tell us you didn't have anything to do with the colour pallette on this data!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:00 pm
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You would have thought that there were some good courses available on presenting scientific detail to the general public


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:00 pm
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Yep, teacher friends are saying that the unions are threatening to withdraw them all if they have to stay open.

A nice distracting war with the teaching unions would suit this lot just fine I think.

Boris standing firm with hard working families against lefty teachers. Lovely


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:01 pm
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'Strong local leadership' what a ****ing prick!!!!

'Alas' **** off!!!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:02 pm
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Those heat maps hurt my eyes every week I have them inflicted on me. The main take away was R was above 1 since late August but sat and watched to see what would happen (ooh let me think)


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:03 pm
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Boris is def looking like he is feeling the strain. Looks about 10 years older than when he won the last election


 
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‘Alas’ **** off!!!

Completely agree. It's his favourite word and it implies that it's someone else's fault or couldn't be controlled in the first place despite best efforts, when what we actually had was dire leadership and simply appalling decision making.


 
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Schools not closing then.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:06 pm
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Has he got to the point yet, the PowerPoint did for me. Three graphs tops was all it needed.


 
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This is like when you have to do a presentation at work on short notice, so you just throw everything at excel…

That's pretty much what's happened.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:07 pm
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Tiers of a clown.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:09 pm
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Is it appropriate to deliver a serious message dressed up as a scarecrow?


 
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And stop hitting the ****ing lectern covered in microphones with your ****ing finger, you incompetent fool.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:10 pm
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So...

Another partial lockdown. Are they trying to see how long they can drag this out for?

I don't think this will change our day-to-day significantly


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:10 pm
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Unicorns !!!!


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:11 pm
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So some detail, lockdown lite it is, schools stay open and you can still exercise outside plus some waffle about shielding.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:11 pm
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Finally he gets to the sodding point.

Now, MOT's? Mine expires in 2 weeks and I've just booked it for Friday.


 
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I work on a peripatetic basis in a number of schools…..they have done literally zero prep for schools shutting again.

From what I can see from my kids schools, the schools are properly prepped and ready to close, but they've done it all themselves.


 
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Tiers of a clown.

Beautiful 🙂


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:11 pm
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Why wouldn't you just put the car in for mot if it's already booked.

Unless the garage shuts of course.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:12 pm
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He's blown it, not enough action to get the numbers going in the right direction.

He's pinning all on the hope that rapid tasting and the Track-And-Trace system miraculously start working.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:12 pm
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So basically the whole of England is going into Tier 3+......well, Tier 3 has clearly worked so well.


 
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finish on a 3 part slogan - class


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:13 pm
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Why wouldn’t you just put the car in for mot if it’s already booked.

Unless the garage shuts of course.

That's what I'm planning, unless MOT test centres have to close of course... if they're classed as non essential.


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:15 pm
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No real definition what constitutes essential, so suddenly every business is essential.

How do they keep making the same errors

Good question by BBC ref the delay in reacting...


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:16 pm
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Sky pushed on much the same question.


 
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Glad the journos are giving him a kicking


 
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Beth has put him in full waffle mode


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:20 pm
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Maybe Boris spent the last couple of hours rehearsing the finger snap. I just have the horrible feeling the scientists have been sat there going over and over everything he's just regurgitated until he got it.

Did we actually get through that without any Latin?


 
Posted : 31/10/2020 8:20 pm
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‘there is no good time’

We know. How is this time better than a few weeks ago? Or is it in fact likely to be worse in every way?


 
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Seeing as it's Boris' favourite word right now:

Alas what we are watching is the exposure of him as a complete failure at being a modern Churchill figure, something he was desperate to be seen as.


 
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GROUNDHOG DAY !!!!


 
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