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I’m a lot less sensitive than most, having seen a lot more deaths than you or anyone else on here over the years…
Remember you’re not only one who works in healthcare but you do some what have a point.
TJ maybe just lay off the blood in his hands bits he’s a human with a fiancé who’s pregnant.
Is ducatimonster’s video just a load of … ?
There are plenty of official sources of information about Corona virus, from .gov to WHO.
His boozing and cocaine use will have badly damaged him
Unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't then I severely doubt he has taken anywhere near enough coke to cause himself any harm in the long term. And even if he was a huge coke head, which he isn't, then long term impacts on chronic users is debatable to say the least, with limited evidence that it causes problems in long term addicts.
He's no athlete, he's overweight, but I bet he's no more unhealthy than a fair portion of the population. He's just been unlucky..
To be hoped Boris'predicament helps the average invincible middle-aged, overweight stressed male realise how dangerous this is.
he’s a human with a fiancé who’s pregnant.
Mind boggles at medical advances in these crazy times
The vapour itself contains respiratory droplets including saliva, mucus and bacteria and when it’s blown out, it travels for a long distance and hangs in the air at head height.”
Propylene glycol (the base in most vaping liquids) is used to sterilise air in hospitals, so I wouldn’t be too concerned.
He’s just been unlucky..
He’s been careless, and unlucky.
Remember a few weeks ago when we were commenting on how Boris seemed out of his depth? Well after watching Dominic Raab's rabbit caught in the headlights WTF am I doing here performance this evening Boris looks almost Churchillian. And without wanting to make light of it, I've seen various comparisons on fb tonight to the film The Death of Stalin. You can only imagine what's going on behind the scenes with Raab, Gove and Hancock in charge.
To be hoped Boris’predicament helps the average invincible middle-aged, overweight stressed male realise how dangerous this is.
yeah his dad's "I'm going to the pub" quip rings a little hollow now.
Well after watching Dominic Raab’s rabbit caught in the headlights WTF am I doing here performance this evening Boris looks almost Churchillian.
Harsh, he knows how serious the situation is with Johnson, of course he is shaken.
Well said Drac about laying off the '....blood on his hands' hyperbole.
I'm a registered labour member but wouldn't wish covid-19 on anyone - let alone the tory PM at a time of national crisis.
Not sure how anyone could wish this on anyone, let alone Bojo...
9 of us from work have had it, I spent 6 days with a high temp and feeling like I was on my way out, however I consider myself extremely lucky one of us 9 never made it through, he was 20 years old with no underlying health issues, died last Thursday, I’ve still not grasped the fact he’s dead...
One guy is still in icu...
It’s real 😢😢😢😢
@unfitgeezer. Holy **** - that's close to home. Hope you are well over it.
Ah! Bugger that’s crap unfit.
Harsh
Not really. He's the de facto PM of the UK in the biggest crisis since WWII. His primary job is keep people calm and transmit confidence, even if inside he's having a panic attack. If he's not able to do that he should step aside for someone who can. Not that there's anyone else in Boris's gang of sycophants mind you. Maybe time to revisit the national government idea?
Remember a few weeks ago when we were commenting on how Boris seemed out of his depth?
I also remember a few weeks ago people claiming how convenient it was Boris caught Covid-19 and that it was probably a ploy.
I am not wishing him harm. But I really do not care at all what happens to him
Maybe that makes me bad man but I just do not and I am not going to be all sanctimonious and pretend I do care.
His primary job is keep people calm and transmit confidence, even if inside he’s having a panic attack
The PM, and acting PM, are humans, flawed like all of us. If Raab came out all solid and unshaken by his boss being in such a dire position I’d be seriously worried about him.
I am not wishing him harm. But I really do not care at all what happens to him
Maybe that makes me bad man but I just do not and I am not going to be all sanctimonious and pretend I do care.
I'm in that club.
I’m very much over it...I hope !
I’ve got so much on my plate at the moment I don’t have the brain space to even think about it...
Anxiety levels at all time high,
You don’t need to be but you can lay off the blood on his hands comment I don’t think now is the time for such slur.
Really sorry to hear what you’re going through unfitgeezer.
I hope Boris and any other person in his position makes it through.
There's some downright callous stuff going on here.
How terrible to wish this kind of ill upon a fellow human being.
How terrible to wish this kind of ill upon a fellow human being.
Sorry, have I missed something? No one on this forum has, have they? I’d hope not.
Drac - I'll take the telling. We are all a bit on edge.
Thanks TJ.
Sorry, have I missed something? No one on this forum has, have they? I’d hope not.
Sadly there was.
kimbers
Subscriberstandard trump
He's absolutely obsessed with hydroxychloroquine, did you see any of the press conference last night? "Hydroxychloroquine. Try it. If you'd like. Take it." "Erythromycin, which will kill certain things that you don't want living within your body. It's a powerful drug ... what do you have to lose?"
Not just terrible advice but creepy as ****
Mind you if it turns out to actually work he's going to look like a genius. So far though all we definitely know is that his announcements have killed at least one person (albeit, a total idiot) and that people who genuinely need the drug for other conditions such as lupus are struggling to get it. And when you look at all the trump zoomers... Apparently it's all a big MSM plot to stop american lives from being saved just to make trump look bad.
Sadly there was.
People. I despair.
Mind you if it turns out to actually work he’s going to look like a genius.
And if it doesn’t, he’ll just claim he never said it. Same as at every other step of this crisis.
Take care unfit geezer - that just sounds horrendous.
I hope Johnson pulls through - it's all funny till it's not. Right now it's definitely not. Every day Boris is the joker in the pack and tall tales and gallows humour go with the territory. He's fair game for it but this is not an experience to wish on anyone. Even if Boris is see as complicit in all of this - for the country the shock of loosing the PM in a national emergency; do we really want that?
He’s absolutely obsessed with hydroxychloroquine,
this is parody btw
I feel I have to point that out, because Trump is that bonkers he could say this....
theres an awful lot of seemingly intelligent Republican commentators & even politicians tweeting that its all a massive over-reaction and Trump has fallen for a scam, genuinely scary, at least over here its Katy Hopkins, brendan O'Neil & Amanda Holden- known crackpots we can safely ignore
Is ducatimonster’s video just a load of … ?
Was that the deep breaths thing ?
"I am not the lung expert you're looking for"
but I don't think it was all bollocks. Deep breathing & holdin briefly presumably does open up lower airways at least a bit and many of the ventilated pts on ICUs will be done lying on their fronts (prone ventilation)
There's nobody in the Tory government I really trust and labour seems purged of talent; complete dross on the labour front bench. I'd rather Blair or Brown was wheeled in for this crisis although that's not going to happen.
Drac – I’ll take the telling. We are all a bit on edge.
I'm glad you said that TJ. I always thought you were a decent human but your recent posts gave me doubts
My God Raab looks shakey.
It's more important than ever to hold the government to scrutiny right now. Boris and Cummings decided to form a government more autocratic in nature than any we've seen in our lifetime, evidenced by the resignation of Sajid Javid. They were seeking to erode the traditional capacities of the office of Chancellor in order to concentrate power at the top, moving from a more collegiate form of governance to a more 'executive's one.
We have assembled a cabinet of sycophants rather than a cabinet of talents. The problem with that (well one of many) is that when the leader is absent a vacuum is left, to be filled by the vacuous.
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My God Raab looks shakey.
Course he does, he's the man who was brexit secretary for 4 months before he discovered Dover was important. By all accounts he was a good solicitor and a competent enough local MP but politically the only reason he's not a backbencher is that he was such a vocal brexiteer, and he knows it. And now suddenly he's acting PM.
Obviously hope he makes it but, the thought of Raab (scary enough) in charge with the den of ****s that is Gove, Moog etc manouvering behind him is frightening
With Cummings out of the picture as well, the head of the snake has been well and truly cut off
Guys has franksinatra checked in here since last week? Anyone know if he's out of ICU?
Yes we should be looking hard at the government. Seeing aside bojos current condition, the move to shelve any dissenters is not looking good right now.
I’ve been worrying about franksinatra too
Although this thread could be pretty odious to read if you’re living it so maybe he just needs space and recovery.
Frank’s post on here.
I'm still in hospital but feeling much better. There had been a few dark days over the past week but I managed to keep out of ITU. I'm off O2 this morning for the first time to see how my lungs get on, if all okay them I may go home over the weekend. That is not the end of it though, going to be a journey getting lungs working again and I've lost a remarkable amount of muscle and strength. I feel about 150yrs old. It's been utterly horrible.
He also posted about Apple TV’s 3 days ago.
but politically the only reason he’s not a backbencher is that he was such a vocal brexiteer, and he knows it
There are two reasons. The most important one is he isnt a political threat.
He’s absolutely obsessed with hydroxychloroquine
"Mr. Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine."
Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community
Follow the money. Jesus, it seems like even with this global crisis every time he opens his mouth we need to check for ways that he is making himself richer.
Well, news from Sweden is still pretty non-committal. No lockdown as yet in the city (Stockholm) and people still mostly going about business. There is a very distinct trend toward staying a good distance away from people, and the subway and commuter trains are getting emptier, but there are still people that have to go to work and so there is still risk involved. The roads are quieter though.
With Easter approaching and schools mostly out, I think there will be at least some sort of exodus out to the country, especially if the weather is nice. I know Google thinks that movement is down significantly, but decent weather will make that hard to retain, especially if you are an active nation that likes the country. The concern is that holiday cabins attract a lot of old people all year round and are relatively isolated right now.