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The work thing - "if you can't work from home" so any companies/people who can but have chosen not too will now be forced to put in place full WFH measures.
Bank call centre staff and the IT people who sopport these, which in my company are key workers, will, I think, be allowed to travel to work. We'll get confirmation tomorrow. We could already get a letter to confirm we're key workers so shouldn't be an issue.
I've been building laptops today for people WFH, and supporting the staff who are taking the thousands of customer service calls, and some things need a person in front of a desk. We're pretty crucial in terms of the company staying running.
We are two weeks behind Italy. To don’t base it on time from one death as this to variable and the lag depends on the starting value. You base it on time from 16 deaths when the epidemic state has really got going.
BBC still not comfortable exposing log plots. They should.
Certain people at work are essential, the operators who run our plant (We produce penicillin)
I will be able to work from home, unless I have to carry out an inspection that is required to keep plant online.
Fairly simple in our example.
will home deliveries/courier drivers still be allowed to work?
Aiui yes, pm specifically mention folk should try and use delivery services where possible.
The work thing – “if you can’t work from home” so any companies/people who can but have chosen not too will now be forced to put in place full WFH measures.
I work in predominantly construction, which is completely ignorant of any impending doom and just carrying on with heads in the sand. You can't do that work from home for all site workers. Believe me, I want to be at home. My employer thinks differently.
It would have been useful to have 24hrs notice for this lockdown.. I've got all sorts of work related loose ends to sort out but don't involve coming into contact with anyone.
Also.. as I'm self employed this is essential work as no measures have been announced that I can support my family financially..
You can still work if it’s necessary and if you’re not able to work from home
So if I take the dog round the block does that count as my day's exercise? Or can I then go out for a cycle afterwards (on my own). Because of its the former then I'm not sure I'll get much exercise in..
Either way I won't see anyone doing either.
Or will no one care either way..
My work group chat (construction) is currently on fire that they're currently having to go to work tomorrow, on a building site of 500+ people coming from all corners of London by Tube/Train etc etc
Everyone very careful to avoid the 'L' word in these announcements and commentary.
Half measures from Johnson ffs get the full lockdown done and stop dither and delay
Half measure this is no half measure.
Nice quite roads for me it’ll be like Xmas day.
will home deliveries/courier drivers still be allowed to work?Yeah
Supermarket workers have been classed as essential during the covid crisis.
I’m wondering on those details, it’s essential that work so I don’t loose my house but is that acceptable?!! I clearly can’t work from home
Self employed stone mason so not working means no money and currently no help from government
Anyone know if the bars in the Palace of Westminster are still open?
They closed them yesterday
tpbiker
So if I take the dog round the block does that count as my day’s exercise? Or can I then go out for a cycle afterwards (on my own). Because of its the former then I’m not sure I’ll get much exercise in..
Either way I won’t see anyone doing either.
Or will no one care either way..
Honestly? I reckon it depends where you live. We're on the edge of a rural village so suspect policing will be light and if I was so inclined I could be out of the village and in the woods within two minutes and without encountering anyone else as often as I wanted. Biggest worry would be being shopped to the authorities by the gammons.
In a bigger town/city not so easy/more restricted...
Supermarket deliveries is obvious, but what about other couriers? People buying stuff online when stuck at home will keep a lot of businesses from going under, and I need to order a 2nd monitor! 😀
People are already missing the point. Every man & his dog can think up reasons why it doesn't apply to them. If that happens lots of people die. Just obey the F****** instructions dimwits
I know in the current circumstances this is firmly first world problems, however...
I have just cancelled as much as I can of our summer holiday to Canada. We saved all last year for this, currently insurer won't cover flights or some bits we cannot claim back, but I suspect flights will not go anyway. Even if they do, will we want to travel with half the world closed up and recovering...
Four of us were to canoe in Algonquin followed by meeting Eldest_oab and pals in Whistler, Kamloops and Okanagon. Gutted for all of us.
Hey ho.
Time to focus on what we can do and more important things.
My Partner lives in Manchester, I live in West Yorks, that means we won't be able to see each other for 3 weeks.
not cool.
People are already missing the point. Every man & his dog can think up reasons why it doesn’t apply to them. If that happens lots of people die. Just obey the F****** instructions dimwits
This, 100% this.
Just ****in stay in.
imnotverygood
People are already missing the point. Every man & his dog can think up reasons why it doesn’t apply to them. If that happens lots of people die. Just obey the F****** instructions dimwits
Not seeing that here, just honest questions and pondering about the practicalities and clarity of the 'instructions'.
Certainly nothing that requires the aggression and insults of your last sentence.
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Half measures from Johnson ffs get the full lockdown done and stop dither and delayHalf measure this is no half measure.
Yip, how people can think that is ambiguous I'll never know..
Edit, bah crossed posts
Anyway, what’s next? Army to help the rozzers?
Those are tough measures - I am afraid my cognitive bias still sees it as excessively waffle wrapped.
Biggest worry would be being shopped to the authorities
Shaun of the Dead to Hot Fuzz in one, lucky we got the World's End done by the end of January.
Normally I’d give warnings for the above.
However stay the **** in people Boris was clear. Everyday I’ve been at work the late 10 days this is escalating by slowing it can cope better. If the NHS can’t cope the death rate will be grow very quickly to uncontrollable levels.
For anyone even remotely tempted to complain they can’t ride their bike now, I and many others now have no idea if or when they will ever see their children again. Heartbroken doesn’t come close. Patience over bike ride complaints is pretty thin.
Not seeing that here, just honest questions and pondering about the practicalities and clarity of the ‘instructions’.
Er no. You're being a dimwit. Stop thinking it through, stop trying to work out what you could do to get around it, or why you're special.
Just follow the instructions.
Honestly? I reckon it depends where you live
100 yards to the woodland path that runs behind my house.
As long as one of the neighbours doesn't grass me up I'll be grand. But then again I am keen to adhere to the rules on principle so if it's definitely 'either dog walk or cycle, not both' then fair enough..
Just hoping people will now take note and stay at home other than for food/medication runs and work where necessary. I’m a cynic though and imagine that, without a presence of authority, a large subset of society will just carry on as they have been.
Stay safe everyone
I was thinking I could get DIY stuff one because things could be delivered - but I'm not sure the staff at Travis Perkins or wherever mail order depot are going to be considered essential so they probably won't be working either.
many others now have no idea if or when they will ever see their children again
son just texted to say he's moving back in with us..... oh happy days
Selfish or not I’m worried about my income from my business. I make no apologies for that. Maybe get off your high horses, just because someone has a question doesn’t mean they are defiantly breaking the rules.
I will walk or run with the dog for exercise.
Certainly nothing that requires the aggression and insults of your last sentence.
Indeed, it was a simple question. No one has complained about not being able to go on a bike so wind in the aggressiveness. I've been religiously following social distancing measures, not seen any of my mates, not visited my folks for 2 weeks..I'm quite prepared to make sacrifices so I suggest you keep your mouth shut instead of throwing insults..
People in the UK will only be allowed to leave their home for the following purposes:
Shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible
One form of exercise a day – for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household
Any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person
Travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home
have we a definition of "allowed to leave their home" , ie can you drive to somewhere for your one form of exercise per day ?
I was thinking I could get DIY stuff one because things could be delivered – but I’m not sure the staff at Travis Perkins or wherever mail order depot are going to be considered essential so they probably won’t be working either.
Aye, there are all sorts of questions regarding what is "essential". Pre-planned DIY might not be but what happens if a pipe bursts, or a flat roof needs repaired etc. The longer this goes on, the more instances we'll hit where things we usually have readily available just aren't. Mostly, we'll struggle on - if a kettle breaks we can use a pan instead - but that's not sustainable in the long term. Let's just hope this initial 3 week period has an impact and that the restrictions can be gradually lifted.
thegeneralist
Er no. You’re being a dimwit. Stop thinking it through, stop trying to work out what you could do to get around it, or why you’re special.
Just follow the instructions.
Again, no need for the insults. You have absolutely no idea what my situation, attitude or mindset is.
FWIW I have absolutely no intention to ignore the instructions (and like many others here have been trying to stay ahead of the government for a while now), just pointing out that context might affect people's decision making.
Just follow the instructions.
I'll give a little bit of support to the other poster
One form of exercise a day - for example a run, a walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household.
To give a daft example - we're a student house of ten who all cycle and and members of the same cycle club, can we exercise together?
Yeah - we just authorised staff to spend £100 to buy a monitor for their worklaptops if they want one - but will deliverables still be coming through?
I know we're long past the point when anything is surprising with this whole situation but when the first news reports came out in December/Jan who would have though it would end up here, and who would have thought we'd all be massively relieved and supportive about it? We're going to be telling stories about this for as long as we live, and probably living with the consequences.
Should have happened two weeks ago though, and I think Boris will be gone before the year's out when we know just how many lives his dithering and negligence has cost. Cummings hopefully will be behind bars.
Trying to find some clarity on this. My wife's horses are kept on a farm a few miles away. She's worried that going to see them, and care for them all get her in trouble.
They need feed and checking once a day. I said that it should be a genuine reason and despite other people at the same farm they can be seen without coming into contact with anyone else.
Is there any formal guidelines available yet. Nothing on the gov website I could find.
People are already missing the point. Every man & his dog can think up reasons why it doesn’t apply to them.
That about sums it up, non of us really want to be in the locked in the hutch.
no farming out the kids to other family members or friends.
In France we have forms to fill to give the reasons to go out. If for work you also need a certificate from employer to say you can't wfh citing all the laws etc...
Police check it. I have been controlled once in 6 days and 1000s of fines have been given.
People are already missing the point. Every man & his dog can think up reasons why it doesn’t apply to them.
That about sums it up, non of us really want to be in the locked in the hutch.
I do and I’m more than happy to do so if it lessens the risk of my family or vulnerable members of society becoming ill.