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The Vulcan
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and Phantom are my favourites.
TCW eh? Two C*nts and a Wireless.
I've worked with them, when testing out kit I'd fitted to one of the things I've posted a piccy to in this thread...
That Mi-28 looks like an angry beaver (the animal) or maybe a ground hog.
Such beautiful things, created for such terrible reasons... 😐
I went through Locking in 97/98 and have many fond memories of Montana Joes and Steamrock. I don't think there was a much better station in the RAF.
Best thread ever!
Oi! Less talk, more pictures of Cold War era planes you lot!
Have we had a U2 yet?
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The one that "never existed"... The F-19 Stealth Fighter
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Looked amazing!
...awesome...
BE12 anyone?
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And, how about an AN22. Now this one had a great NATO callsign...."Flashy to Tower, I've just seen a huge, great big...."
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Have we had a U2 yet?
Yes 😉
Sorry, back to my fave plane...
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10 SR71's all lined up together!!! 😯
Some strange German designs (WWII not Cold War):
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Some later American aircraft:
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taken Monday... He seemed to be following us around.
NO to...Cheeky Trails 😉
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**** the rules... It's a Spitfire.
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My whole ride seemed to be buzzed by a chopper the other day: what's going on here? [paranoia mode!]Mountain bikers the next target for surveillance?[/paranoia mode!]
Well if the 'Cold War' rules are waived:
[url= http://www.ofmc.co.uk/ ]Old Flying Machine Company[/url]
[url= http://fighter-collection.com/pages.php ]The Fighter Collection[/url]
Some later jet stuff happening with these guys now, I think.
Oi, WW2 folk, get yer own thread! 😉
Earlier, somebody mentioned the aeroplane graveyard in Arizona.
Can see it on Google maps [url= http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=davis-monthan+usa&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=19.301109,44.824219&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=32.152898,-110.826902&spn=0.006731,0.010943&z=17 ]here.[/url]
Loving this thread, thanks CFH for starting it.
Edit: the link doesn't quite take you to exact spot - zoom out and look around.
Oi, WW2 folk, get yer own thread! [:wink:]
done 🙂
Sorry, CFH.
This place work for you?
[url= http://www.dehavillandaviation.com/file/Home.html ]Jet Heritage...[/url]
[url= http://www.dehavillandaviation.com/file/Photos.html ]Photos...[/url]
What a great thread! 🙂
I'm going to resurrect the Thunderchief (last seen on about page 5)
There's a great scene in the film Thirteen Days (about the Cuban Missile Crisis) of a low-level recon 'raid' over Cuba in these. Almost all special effects obviously but still thrilling stuff.
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Nothing like a cold war to bring a bit of healthy rivalry in other directions too. Such as who can build the first double supersonic passenger plane!
I give you the Tupolev TU-144
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Nicknamed "Concordski" it actually flew for the first time 2 months before Concorde ever did. Only remained in active service for 3 years though. Maybe the Russians actually found no need for it (where were they trying to fly their passengers to? They were at war with everyone!) at the time when Concorde was flying people all over the world.
I don't believe we've had either of these ladies yet...
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have to say the cold war was an amazing time for aircraft design, and they were coming out all the time instead of every coupl of years or decades like now!
red thunder, where were you when you got that pic of the Apache, i was riding between Machynlleth and Nant yr Arian a few saturdays ago and there was a lone one flying around out there for an hour or so, thought it was quite unusual. still an awe inspiring machine!
Bringing out my inner nerd.
The Leduc Ramjet
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The Convair FXY-1 Pogo
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Thanks Mr_C - found them. Any idea how to link to Google Earth for this?
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EE Lightning F6 XS898 after extensive repairs by T6 ASF RAF Binbrook. The pilot pulled 10g after getting disorientated on a night radar contact exercise. After blacking out he came round to find the Mach meter off the end of the scale - in a climb!
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That last picture from matt_outandabout is amazing. Seem to recall an equally amazing punch out at Farnborough when the explosion from the aircraft inflated his 'chute...
Those dumb Americans should've chosen this over the boring to look at F-22
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And for low level ejections this one is a classic
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If i recall(not that i was there), "Concordski" suffered a major crash at an airshow (Paris 1970, maybe)??, something along the lines of tried a loop-de-loop, or barrel roll, and broke into many pieces. Finished models never carried passengers because of this, and relegated to mail duties, and withdrawn not long after. Or i could have dreamt all that. Anyone corroborate this?
How about the ugliest.
The AEW Nimrod
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The Weather Herc, (Snoopy)
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Such happy memories of climbing up into Lyme park and watching the vulcans and nimrods out on the apron at Woodford below us.
Also remember the day one of those anolov transporters brought in the trams to Manchester from Italy, massive noisy thing.
Also the time my sister and I were asked out by 2 flight lieutenants, a navigator and pilot (of tornados) to the Jersey aero club, where we were introduced to the red arrows formation team. What a fantastic night. Those boys know how to party.
Snoopy was quite a plane, i remember seeing it fly over Fairford years ago, no longer i operation i believe, last i heard it was being converted back to a standard Hercules, somebody must have had a job on their hands!
I think one of my worst memories is the mid air collision in 1988 near Milburn - we were in the garden in the evening, and two of them went straight over our neighbours roof low (only red roof for miles and reputedly regularly used to line up on Warcop ranges).
Seconds later there was an enormous noise, and one of the Tornadoes was going straight up on full afterburn. We just thought it was the 'normal' dogfighting.
At first emergency services did not know what had happened - until they found an engine on the village green at Milburn and some scattered body parts.
This was one of the planes involved:
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The Tu-144 needed full reheat to hit Mach 2.0, thus range was limited. Concorde could cruise at Mach 2.x without reheat (supercruise!) 🙂
Such happy memories of climbing up into Lyme park and watching the vulcans and nimrods out on the apron at Woodford below us.
Hey Bunnytop you must have grown up round there the same time as me! We used to go and lie on the end of the runway at Woodford as the Vulcans came into land.
And I used to ride up in Lyme Park, up to the cage and bow stones gate as a kid.
mboy mentioned the Tu-144 and wondered why it didn't enter service. That's because a spectacular crash at the Paris Airshow rather took the shine off the USSR's whizzy new toy, and I believe another accident internally relegated the Tu-144 to mail duties within the USSR for the rest of it's life. A few have also mentioned some of the American Century Series, like the F-104 Starfighter. They were some of the most God-awful aircraft the Yanks ever came up with, although the 104 is a spectacular plane, and one of my all-time favourites. It could never be called a fighter, it's an intercepter like the Lightning, and I love the concept: get a chuffing great engine, stick on the smallest wings you possibly can and still get the thing into the air, persuade some testosterone-fuelled jock to sit at the pointy-end, light blue touch-paper and stand well back. As the Germans found out, maintenance is everything, as the popular joke of the time said: 'how do you aquire a Starfighter? Buy a hectare of land.
...and wait'.
Wow, what a lot of combat wombats, cabbages and NATO potatoes we've got on here. I've seen, touched, been in, worked on and flewn in a few of the jets mentioned here and I have only one thing to say. A six ship beat up of gib by buccs is the most impressive thing ever ever ever! FACT. Especially when a taxying C130 got in the way of the wing man on the return leg and he had to fly around it. Bring back the cold war I say but that's a political argument for another day. I believe that concorde could at one point have been converted to a bomber, it's chassis had the capability to fit bomb doors. Oh and Druidh you must be a sad person for camping at Lossie, or a psace cadet! Good thread, brought back memories. Well done CFH.
Lol Space Cadet! I haven't heard that insult in a very long time! 😆
mboy mentioned the Tu-144 and wondered why it didn't enter service. That's because a spectacular crash at the Paris Airshow rather took the shine off the USSR's whizzy new toy, and I believe another accident internally relegated the Tu-144 to mail duties within the USSR for the rest of it's life.
Cheers CountZero. I had wondered if it was only built in the first place as a bit of "one-upmanship" against the allied forces. Quite ironic that showing the thing off, in the birthplace of the Concorde, that the TU-144 failed so spectacularly then. That must've been such an embarrassment for the commies!
On the subject of propaganda, it seems the Russians for all their technological advances, managed to hype all their planes up far more than they actually made them reliable and successful! I mean, the MiG 25 Foxbat was claimed as capable of Mach 3.2 and altitudes over 80,000ft (ie. the Rusky's were claiming the Yanks should worry about their SR71's as now there was a plane capable of shooting one down). But the reality was that whilst in "theory" it had enough thrust to hit Mach 3.2, the engines would fail for some reason above Mach 2.8, and pilots were ordered not to exceed Mach 2.5 in order to preserve the possibility of the engines staying intact.
Weird really, but as a Brit I'm used to American bravado etc. But it seems when it comes to American war planes, they have always erred on the cautious side when claiming their planes performance (maybe they were trying to lull the Russians into a false sense of security?) by comparison to the Russians. Blackbird setting 4 new world records on its retirement run being a case in point!
Oh, and what devs says about Concorde stands to reason. I always thought that Concorde looked like it had been designed with the ability to be adapted for military application. Supersonic passenger travel was only ever the preserve of the uber rich, and now it's no longer even an option. The fact that the American B1-B Bomber looks very much like a shrunk down, militarised version of Concorde really makes me think that should bombs have been needed to be transported long range quickly back in the 70's, Concorde would have been quickly adapted.
Sorry, forum go slow = double post!
Anyone linked this to Pprune and the like yet?
My thanks to those who have thanked me for starting this, but to be honest I justy thought of a couple of planes that meant a lot to me from my youth (especially the JP and the Tin
Triangle). This has become so much more than I could ever have imagined, it really is marvellous.
To all of you reading, please raise a glass to all those who flew these things in what was a real, if cold, war.
(Still amazed at what this thread has become!)
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Snoopy was quite a plane, i remember seeing it fly over Fairford years ago, no longer i operation i believe, last i heard it was being converted back to a standard Hercules, somebody must have had a job on their hands![/i]
The 'nose' from Snoopy is on display in our cafe at work...
