[Closed] What's this bizarre calling for Saville's house to be demolished?!

If you cannot see why they want this [ whether you agree or disagree] then there is little point anyone explaining it to you.

would be far better donated to the BMC or such like and turned into a bunkhouse or museum to it's former-former owner.

It's probably more that the locals are getting tired of ghoul-tourists taking pictures of it and painting slogans on it.

I'd love to have it. I'm sure lots of other people can look past the recent history and see the slightly older history, like the outhouse where ice axes were invented (or whatever).

It's just a house. Stripped of its owner's possessions, that's all it is, a building. Who could pick it out from a bunch of photos of random houses; I know I couldn't. I'd happily live there, if the house and setting was nice. It's not like he's Fred West, murdering and burying people there; pretty much all of Saville's crimes were carried out in the BBC, hospitals, or his camper van. Lets hear for having those places demolished because of his direct connection with abuse in them.

If you cannot see why they want this [ whether you agree or disagree] then there is little point anyone explaining it to you.

I can see why they want it, I'm just baffled by complete irrationality of it and why the "authorities" seem to be following the stupid lead.

I suppose the job of the authority is to do the will of the people, even when it's cretinous.

whilst it a decision I dont personally agree with I am not sure the language of some on here is any less emotive or any more rational.

Its associated with Jimmy so some think that enough - some dont.

I dont feel the need to insult either group as being irrational or cretins personally.

It was a daft comment by a local councillor that started it off.
Best thing that could happen is for it to be turned over to MCS.

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Who could pick it out from a bunch of photos of random house

The locals who want it knocked down?

In years to come the Time Team will be digging up the remains of his house at the bottom of someone's garden trying to piece the story together. May as well save them the effort and leave it there.

WRT Cromwell street stuff actually happened there, I'm not aware of anything having happened at Saville's Scotland house. ( not read the story in detail, if stuff did then I can maybe see it)

At cromwell st the girls were plastered into the walls and floor, so the house itself was part of it.

People will happily live in a house with a "history" just not everyone thats all.

When Mark Hobson went on a killing spree in 2004 while on the run he ended up breaking into a house at the end of my Mum and Dads road and killing the couple who lived there and hiding out.

He was caught a few days later, but the house was left empty for a good few years, it was mentioned that it was to be demolished as nobody would ever want to live in it.

It's now been refurbished and there is a family living there perfectly happily, and I bet they got a cracking deal on it too !

Our house was built on an ancient indian burial ground, you don't hear me complaining. Chavatangakwunua never shuts up about it though.

I do understand that some people would want this. And no in my opinion it does not make sense.

I think it must be these people !

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It's one councillor out of quite a few, and I'm not sure which locals he's speaking for because the only time you hear 'it's what the locals want' is when he's said it. For every local that knows it as Jimmy Saville's house there's another that knows it as Hamish's old house.

No offences were committed there.

Are we pulling down the Great Ormond Street, Leeds General and Stoke Mandeville Hospitals, the BBC, the Hospice etc where offences did actually take place?

Locals - what locals? There are no locals. I'm assuming that it's the house at Altnafeadh that you're talking about.

The trust does have difficulty selling property as they have lot of caveats applied to donations which prevent them from doing what would appear logical.

But, if nobody wants the house I'll have it.

The other famous owner of that house is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamish_MacInnes
http://hamishmacinnes.com/index.htm

Double post

High emotion can create illogical reactions.....it was ever thus, was it not?

If it was the MacInnes house let's hope sense prevails (and even if it's not).

Just be a shrine for sad b*****ds
Nuke it then no one can go near it.

[quote=grantway ]Nuke it then no one can go near it.
And the hospitals?

It's reminiscent of the times when folk trace their family tree and find some murderer or terrible scoundrel and it's all quite cool and exciting at dinner parties.
Not many people want a parent or sibling as a killer though.
And what about the Tower Of London and countless other historic buildings where atrocities went on,shall we knock them down too?

There was a discussion on radio scotland yesterday about this. Cameron Mcneish was on suggesting it should be a mountaineering museum as that is where Hamish Mcinnes developed lots of climbing/MR stuff in the sixties and wrote books there.
Seems a bit more sensible than demolishing it.
The novelty of graffitiing it will wear off before too long no doubt.

There was a discussion on radio scotland yesterday about this. Cameron Mcneish was on suggesting it should be a mountaineering museum as that is where Hamish Mcinnes developed lots of climbing/MR stuff in the sixties and wrote books there.
Seems a bit more sensible than demolishing it.

Infinitely.

I'm assuming that it's the house at Altnafeadh that you're talking about.

No. Alltnafeadh is a few miles south, opposite Buchaille Etive Mor, and the house there is owned by one of the estates. This discussion is about Jimmy Savile's house at Allt na Reigh, opposite the Three Sisters.

Demolishing it just because he lived there seems a bit over the top to me. But if they're having more practical problems as a result of people heading over there to cause trouble then I can see why some people might think it's easier just to get rid of it.

I'm a local and I don't know anyone that wants it knocked down! It's a ludicrous idea.

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Give it 6 months and no one will be interested and we can all get one i with our lives..........

No. Alltnafeadh is a few miles south, opposite Buchaille Etive Mor, and the house there is owned by one of the estates. This discussion is about Jimmy Savile's house at Allt na Reigh, opposite the Three Sisters.

Aye - you're correct. Always did get those two places mixed up.

I saw the local Councillor on the TV saying "the locals want it pulled down"

tartanscarf - Member
I'm a local and I don't know anyone that wants it knocked down! It's a ludicrous idea.

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druidh - Member
grantway » Nuke it then no one can go near it.
And the hospitals?

Obviously not the Hospitals!! But remove any plaques etc
Simply talking about his home are we not ?
Need to eliminate/flatten his home

We know someone who bought a house on an old burial ground, didn't work out so well for sweet pea...

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If you nuke that place then you cant do the devil's staircase...

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"I suppose the job of the authority is to do the will of the people, even when it's cretinous."
It's private property, isn't it? Local government has no mandate to go around confiscating or destroying property just because a (fictitious, hypothetical) locals want it to do that.

Shouldnt the locals be asking for BBC White City to be raised.. err 😉

Do these 'locals' exist? Or is it a shitty local politician drumming up facetime for himself/self promotion to raise his profile

[quote=hora ]Shouldnt the locals be asking for BBC White City to be raised.. err
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hora - Member
Shouldnt the locals be asking for BBC White City to be raised.. err

Do these 'locals' exist? Or is it a shitty local politician drumming up facetime for himself/self promotion to raise his profile

CountZero - Member
I saw the local Councillor on the TV saying "the locals want it pulled down"

tartanscarf - Member
I'm a local and I don't know anyone that wants it knocked down! It's a ludicrous idea.
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Local politician in vote-grabbing self-promotion ploy shocker!

I pass that house regularly and would feel saddened if it was demolished. Always associated it with good trip to Glencoe, not Jimmy Saville. The location is spectacular. I think a museum to Hamish McInnes achievements would be a far more fitting use. If no one else wanted it, I would happily take it.

Museum to Hamish definitely.

...but I reckon plod need to dig up the garden first. Was a Ripper victim not rumoured to have been found down the lane...and then SaVile seen hob nobbing in Broadmoor with Peter Sutcliffe?

or am I referring to the wrong Savile house?

You are thinking of the wrong house.

That was his house in Leeds.

As yet, no call for Leeds to be razed.

Why don't we raze Leeds to the ground?

Well there wont be the racist football fans anymore..

Why don't we raze Leeds to the ground?

No-one would notice.

Or care tbh. Its the Newcastle of Yorkshire

I went to Leeds once and had a jolly fine time. Saw the Black Eyed Peas in their pre-famewhore days and Jurassic 5 before they broke up.

Hysterical.

Summed up for me here:

http://crankitupgear.blogspot.co.uk/

In old fashioned terms it seems he was a groper in his youth or much worse, and a bit of dirty old man when old.

A [i]slight[/i] understatement I would say ?

Some 214 crimes were recorded across 28 police force areas, over a period of 54 years, including 34 of rape or penetration, the report said.

Although I do agree with the general point of the article, the stupid "playing down" of the scale and nature of what Savile actually was took away some credibility.

Hysterical.

Summed up for me here:

http://crankitupgear.blogspot.co.uk/

Jimmy Saville is becoming more of a nuisance in death than he could be at times in life.

I imagine the children and young women that he assaulted and raped might disagree.

That said, I think pulling down the house would be a bit of an overreaction - I can kind of understand it when a property has had such horrible things happen in it that it becomes synonymous with the crimes themselves (like Cromwell Street), but if its a property where a bad person once lived then we might as well knock down half the buildings in the country.

I didn't even know he had a house in Scotland, I always associated him with Leeds and Scarborough. :/

Yes, I agree, he does underplay the severity of JS crimes.

However, we're talking bricks and mortar, I'm far more angry at the BBC, the Polis and the CPS...

odd article disagree with its view re JS including

If this thing with Jimmy Saville teaches us anything it's that fame and money are nothing.

I think we can all agree his fame enabled him to do at least some of this and probably to get away with it for so long.

the dirty old man for the worst known example of a serial sex offender is frankly a ludicrous description.

Whats going on, are we nuking hospitals

You can nuke Ninewells Hospital, they already have a track record with it too.

A museum please, and another point; who the shag drives all the way up to Glencoe to spray paint an empty house? For me it always marks the start of Glencoe and good times to come(Yes I know the big shepherd is slightly more obvious) It would be a pity if went. Is it even within the trust's land?

Right on the boundary of NTS land.

>odd article disagree with its view re JS including<

Chose some of his words very badly but I don't find it "odd." The blogger is local and runs a local business. Essentially his article was about (not) pulling the house down. You would pull it down then?

I said earlier I would not pull it down.

Would you describe JS as

In old fashioned terms it seems he was a groper in his youth or much worse, and a bit of dirty old man when old.

o would you lean more towards this

Some 214 crimes were recorded across 28 police force areas, including 34 of rape or penetration, the report said.

The CPS apologised for missing the opportunity to prosecute Savile in 2009, while he was still alive.

The Metropolitan Police said the victims' accounts painted a "compelling picture of widespread sexual abuse by a predatory sex offender", and Cdr Peter Spindler, who is leading the investigation, said Savile had "groomed the nation".

The NSPCC said Savile had been one of the most prolific sex offenders in its 129-year history

That is what I mean about odd

piemonster - Member
Whats going on, are we nuking hospitals

You can nuke Ninewells Hospital, they already have a track record with it too.

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Do enlighten me....

Didn't see your earlier remark junkyard. I would describe JS acts as heinous however, I don't largely have a problem with the bloggers rationale for retaining the house.

Why don't we raze Leeds to the ground?

No-one would notice.

Leeds isn't just a place, it's a state of mind.