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[Closed] what would you vote most important computer game in the history of gaming?

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Knight Lore as mentioned above was a real landmark game of that 80s spectrum generation. Didn't ultimate have to delay its launch because it was so far in advance of their other games that were ready to release?

For the lefties, how about monty mole and technician ted - for introducing the politics of the day into computer games? Can't have been too many games that were doing that in 1994.

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Posted : 11/12/2012 10:47 am
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Tomb Raider took me FOREVER to complete !!! it was truly an Epic !


 
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Didn't ultimate have to delay its launch because it was so far in advance of their other games that were ready to release?

I don't know about "had to" but yes, IIRC it was completed before Sabre Wulf, and they chose to release them out of order so as not to steal SW's thunder.


 
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Operation Flashpoint/Arma/Arma 2/Arma 3.
The game engine is used to train troops.
Footage taken from the game was mistaken for actual world footage of a 1988 IRA attack and used in a documentary.
It's banned in Iran!
This big cross-over between the virtual and the real world makes it a contender in my eyes, sets a tone for the future.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:51 am
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For the lefties, how about monty mole and technician ted - for introducing the politics of the day into computer games? Can't have been too many games that were doing that in [s]1994[/s]1984.

TFTFY 🙂

BTW, I've had a go at Monty Mole in recent years and it's bl00dy hard. Given the fact you only have 3 lives or so and no "save", it's an example of how much patience/perseverance we had as kids back in the day 🙂


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:52 am
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For the lefties, how about monty mole and technician ted

Tech Ted was evil, one of the hardest games ever. Not content with making a tricky platformer, they made it so that all the tasks were co-dependent and impossible unless done in a certain order, and then to add insult to injury stuck a time limit on the sod. Oh, and if you're really masochistic, there's the 128K version with more rooms.

It's landmark for another reason, too. It's the first Speccy game with a (truly) animated loading screen. (We can discount Manic Miner here, which cheated)


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:52 am
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For me personally, it'd be things that weren't just extensions of previous ones - which would rule out Doom or counter-strike - Doom was very similar in mechanic to Wolfenstein, just had a much much better graphical engine, counter-strike was just another multiplayer fps, that happened to be jolly good.

Spacewar, I played a DOS port of it a lot, but it was one of the original games, and I'm so has to be up there.

GTA 1 - first really large scale explory game with a real narrative that I was aware of, and absolutely brilliant multiplayer to boot - just building such a big game, without railroading you into a particular story at every point was a brilliant thing. (Elite I guess was larger scale, but then the large scaleness of Elite was largely repetition and automatic generation, and the narrative wasn't really there in Elite)

Tetris (Gameboy version obviously - way better than the first PC version). The first computer game I can remember ever being a real sensation outside the world of people who played computer games.

Oh, and not really important, but kind of meaningful for me - that skiing game where you had to stay within the lines (that I typed in from somewhere in Basic on a Casio PB-something pocket computer), and that game at the Science museum's computer gallery where you have to shoot something (or maybe it is golf, can't remember), using an old vector graphics computer system controlled by a jog wheel. Oh, and Donkey Kong handheld (game + watch). And Arcade Volleyball, what a game!


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:53 am
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If anyone knows if you can buy Elite these days for XBOX / PC / Mac, then feel free to let me know that I can indeed waste any precious little time I have left.

For me Elite defined gaming, and Doom defined 1st person gaming. This is a personal thing but as much as I love COD/Battlefield/MOH, I can't get enough Far Cry for its multi directional gameplay / ability to be able wander all over the map and act almost as if YOU decided the outcome, rather than being led down a path.

I'm hoping Far Cry 3 is on my XMAS list.


 
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BTW, I've had a go at Monty Mole in recent years and it's bl00dy hard. Given the fact you only have 3 lives or so and no "save", it's an example of how much patience/perseverance we had as kids back in the day

It doesn't help that it was deliberately designed to trick you, too. Mole squashers that you've to time your run past, that go tap... tap... tap... tap... taptap *argh*! Curse you, Peter Harrap.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:55 am
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I did have a version of Elite II that worked on a fairly recent laptop run from a boot disk which switched into a more generic mode.

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Posted : 11/12/2012 10:56 am
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For £100 you could buy an Amiga and Elite II to play it on.... i wonder if the wife would go with this plan lol.


 
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- Wolfenstein
- Quake
- Goldeneye N64


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:01 am
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Kryton57 - you should get Far Cry 3 ASAP, it's a definite contender for Game Of The Year.


 
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Well I'm an old skool gamer from the golden age 😉

as above impossible to answer but genre wise i think the shift from spectrum up to amiga was immense, games like shadow of the beast for graphics and colour were mental.

since then all consoles etc we have been spoilt and in some cases i dont think the gameplay is still there...

agree with many above, Tomb raider on the PS1 WOW!!

but for me it had to be (contradicting myself i know)...

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the move to 3rd person view and the whole OPEN WORLD gameplay was amazing.


 
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Kryton57 - you should get Far Cry 3 ASAP, it's a definite contender for Game Of The Year.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAAshXrIhE

Woahh!!! If it doesn't arrive with Father Christmas, I'll be ordering it on boxing day!


 
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"You move EAST
Thorin Enters"


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:13 am
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Can't argue with Doom.
I can't see the Wolfenstein argument. It wasn't visceral, it wasn't multiplayer, it didn't sell PCs, I never even wanted to play it.

Donkey Kong


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:13 am
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Space invaders (in the arcade)
Doom (on the 486) although I did prefer Dark Forces
Tomb Raider (on the PS1)


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:14 am
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oh...

Gauntlet!

Xenon Megablast

Renegade and Target Renegade


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:15 am
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LOL quick google, download of 'dosbox 7.40' and i'm now running a full version of Elite II on my laptop !!!!


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:15 am
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Colossal Cave Adventure


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:16 am
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i think the shift from spectrum up to amiga was immense

First time I saw a 16-bit machine, it was an ST running Starglider. I -had- to have one.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:19 am
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"You move EAST
Thorin Enters"

Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold.

> KILL THORIN


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:20 am
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Settlers on the Amiga


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:21 am
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I'd also include early stuff like the ancient Star Trek game (used to load that off paper tape!) and dungeon crawling games like Adventure/Hack/Rogue - games that could be played on the BIG computers of the time.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:33 am
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Pong - the first one for the home.

Or the early Playstation titles. Playstation turned console gaming from a kids' thing to a grownups thing, which obviously had huge implications for the industry.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 12:12 pm
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3 pages in and I'm the first to mention Civilization I spent hours playing it, even used to take a laptop round a mates to compete against each other would start a new map copy it to the others PC and see who could advance furthest fastest.


 
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For me it had to be Arcadia. That was the first game available that made it look like you had an amusement arcade machine in your house.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 12:52 pm
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God, yes. Rogue / Nethack.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 12:55 pm
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what would you vote most important computer game in the history of gaming?
a few people seem to be confusing "most important" with "your favourite"

But no idea myself TBH, wasn't in on the early stuff as I wasn't bought a computer/console/whatever as a kid.

Elite and GTA3 (didn't like 1&2) for their enormous game space/sandbox.
resident evil was the first horror game I played, did it start the (small) genre?
quake 3 was first multiplayer I played, loved it but way too down the line of FPS shooters to be "important"
There's other games that 3d-ified existing stuff and generally made them a lot more fun to play, morrowind, FF7 etc but dunno if they count either.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 1:19 pm
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resident evil was the first horror game I played, did it start the (small) genre?

There were earlier survival horror games. Alone In The Dark jumps to mind.


 
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The first time I saw a first person game was on the ZX81 with the T-Rex in the maze. This was a real eye opener for me.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 1:25 pm
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Doom
UT / Quake
Half Life.

I reckon Doom takes the title of most important though.. if only by going off the replies here.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 1:26 pm
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Alone In The Dark jumps to mind.
didn't know about that (tho had vaguely heard of the series) first 3d one according to wiki - can't imagine a 2d game being as immersive and scary tho


 
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Anyone suggesting half life needs to give themselves a stern talking to!


 
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GTA3 - rekindled my love of gaming, the ability to cause utter carnage was outstanding.

Halo2 - my first online gaming experience.

COD:MW (the first modern warfare) - stunning, stunning game.

Other notable mentions:

Micro-Machines on the SNES - 4 of us playing it sharing a controller between 2.

Elite, obviously.

Harrier Attack on the Speccy - we used to have lunch in a mates house who lived near school and play it non-stop.

Syndicate on the Amiga.


 
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Good question.

Undoubtedly, I'd have to say "Elite" for proving what was possible to achieve with the very meagre hardware of the day. I love the open-ended gameplay and the ability to approach the game in a number of different ways. The 24k of code managed to squeeze in a dozen different ships, 1800 worlds, numerous missions and ship enhancements.

What about others? Well, it depends on how you judge importance. A lot of games that were great from a technical point of view didn't have the marketing clout behind them to make them more memorable - games like Ant Attack, Starstrike II (and Elite) and others were amazing achievements for the time, but lose out to Mario in terms of being cultural landmarks and $$$s earned.

I'd dearly love to be able to include Turrican II too, for the almost obsessive attention to detail in the game. It's still something I have the occasional go on, twenty one years after I first completed it. But ultimately it's derivative despite the memorable soundtrack and visuals.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 1:39 pm
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What's wrong with Half-Life then?


 
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It was just another FPS, nothing particularly innovative about it.


 
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Doom and Counter Strike on the PC

What about Final Fantasy 7 on the Playstation?
Resident Evil was awesome
GTA
Goldeneye for sure
Super Mario 64

These were all important to me, but to the computer gaming world, I dont know?


 
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for me it was 3D ant attack, then jet set willy and the game I just couldnt leave alone was zelda


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 2:00 pm
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Most important - Angry Birds
Best - Fallout 3

(Oh and Far Cry 3 ain't that great BTW)


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 2:03 pm
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Best - Fallout 3

Try either of the first two, they're far better in terms of story and choice as well.


 
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If you're talking about "important" then Wolfenstein ranks up near the top due to the fact it introduced a novel 3D engine (actually really 2D) that allowed games like Doom to be possible on those early computers.

Although after some wikipediaing it seems Hovertank 3d was the first to use the idea...

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Not read the whole thread, so apologies if it's already been said

You could argue that games are an art form. So the OP question is a bit like asking

What’s the most important film, music or piece literature?

What’s the most important piece of photography, architecture or oil on canvas?

IMPOSSIBLE is answer.

A man in the street/on STW you give his favorite, a expert would point you in the direction of a number of very important examples within each genre/ sub genre.

But a good OP question none the less… and as a bloke on STW I’d say Jet Set Willy or Manic Miner


 
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