[Closed] What type of chilli is this?

Scotch bonnet?

It's a nagasai death chilli, sorry.

Can I have your [s]bikes[/s] wishing well?

Scotch Bonnet also known as the Baby Robin.

Thanks. Just learnt a very valuable lesson - try a little before chopping 2 up and eat raw in a cheese sandwich. 😳
I just hope it doesn't burn so much on the way out.

Doesn't look like a Scotch Bonnet to me, but they can be pretty randomly shaped so f knows.

2 mystery chillis chopped raw into a sandwich is a bold move though, I salute you!

looks like a scotch bonnet to me. the ones ive had tend to be quite moist when you chop them up.

I just hope it doesn't burn so much on the way out.

No, it's worse.

Looks like a habanero to me.

Take your pick.

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There's no reference for sizing the thing, but it looks tiny. Isn't it too small to be a scotch bonnet?

johnners - Member
2 mystery chillis chopped raw into a sandwich is a bold move though, I salute you!

I like spicy food but as you say that's a brave step.

I bet he's the bloke on a ride that launches off a big drop without looking first 😀

First thing it Looks like to me is a bishops crown chilli. The ones I grew weren't very hot and were quite sweet with a bit of an apple flavor iirc.

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Here's another picture. They mature over about a week fro the green to orange in a warm place.

http://www.worldshottestgarlicpepper.com/bishops-crown-pepper.php

Same species as Pepperdew. Hardly a pant ruiner at 30,000 scovilles but a satisfying tang none-the-less.

Yours could potentially be a derivative of this pepper, but unlikely to to be a super spicy one. Keep trying them and you'll start to become accustomed to the level of heat.

FWIW Lemon Drop gets my vote for most delicious chilli (ajii variety). Proper citrus flavour that improves any salsa

They're very pretty, I still wouldn't have chopped 2 into a sandwich though.

First thing it Looks like to me is a bishops crown chilli. The ones I grew weren't very hot and were quite sweet with a bit of an apple flavor iirc.

It looks like Chapeau de Frade to me (I'm no expert but I've been googling). If you're talking about the same chili it's supposed to be over 30000 Scoville, so very hot IMO but depends on habituation.

edit: just looked up equivalents to 30,000, it's well below Scotch bonnet so I'd revise my subjective opinion to "fairly hot". SB is where the fun starts to go out of it for me!

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These are warm enough. No need for any hotter for me.

Ive just had a look in the bowl she brought and there's not just one type.
What are these?
Can I dry them and use the seeds to grow next year?

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Middle one in that pic could be a scorpion variant

I've got butch t scorps and cardi scorps. Some "next level" heat. Not even funny how hot the butch t's are.

My faves are either my Thai or Peri Peri. Can't wait as summer's on the way and they're coming back to life.

And yes dry them and collect the seeds.

I had a stack of red chillis that I dried and made my own chilli flakes with. SOOOOO nice on a pizza just sprinkle some on.... Lush!

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They're hard to tell apart as so many look similar.

L to R

Thai, Habanero, Goat or Bhut, Scotch Bonnet, possibly another Hananero.

Can you not ask your neighbour?

I already asked her. She has no idea. She's 87. Her husband loved to grow them. He's dead now but she loves to have the plants around to remind her of him. She hates the taste hence giving me a big bowl full.

The first looks like a Jamaican Bell to me, one of my favourites.

Bless her.

I paid her with Gin and tonic in my garden. She was vey happy with that deal.

Thats a bloody good deal iolo!

Haha! Great story.

iolo - Member

I paid her with Gin and tonic in my garden. She was vey happy with that deal.

From this we can deduce you are a nice person.

Never mind all this Brexit rubbish, this is what we should be doing as a nation, sharing with each other no matter where we were born.

2nd from right looks like a naga. Nice variety of angry looking chillis there, almost all of them guaranteed to ruin your ring.

Quarrel has listed the infamous Percy chilli. Bred by a priest IIRC.. dirty buggers.

The first ones look like piri-piri chillies, well worth using for [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/piripirichicken_72310 ]piri piri chicken[/url].

Can I dry them and use the seeds to grow next year?

Yes. But if they've been grown from plants kept in the same room then you'll probably get a random hybrid rather than more of the same chilli you planted

FWIW - I have a fairly large collection of seeds, rare varieties, super hot etc, if anyone is interested in growing something different?

One of the chili forums I used to visit have a seed sharing bundle, which gets posted around the country and taken from/added to.

With basic care you can get great results from growing within the UK. The eye (and ring) opener for me was learning about the fantastic and varying flavours and levels of heat available.

I'd love to have a go, are they particularly difficult to grow? I come from a family of farmers, gardeners and the like, but the green finger gene passed me by.

Dead easy they warmth and they grow happily on a window sill.

If you are going to eat all those, maybe Google the picolax thread for some coping strategies?

Dead easy they warmth and they grow happily on a window sill.

Warm window sill? That might be difficult...!

A few days in an airing cupboard will get the seeds germinated (typically 80-90% of seeds I start with tend to germinate - using a simple propagation kit from garden center - although you could easily use a few yoghurt pots/drinks bottles and bodge your own), then as above, pot individually in 4" pots and they are quite happy on a sunny windowsill.

When they reach a good height (around 8"-10" or so), switch them into 6-8" pots to prevent them becoming root bound.

They prefer to be well watered, but also well drained, after a day or two the leaves tend to tell you if they are happy or not - if they show any signs of drooping just feed them some room temp water and within minutes they pep-up and look happy as larry again. They tend to respond well to this cycle of running dry before watering and will reward you with angrier chili's

A weekly weak tomato plant feed when in vegetative state and a bit of pruning in early stages to promote bushier growth is all the care that's needed really.

Leggier varieties (like the Lemon Drop I mentioned earlier) may require support but the shorter bushier varieties just go about their business.

Plant in Feb, and by July/Aug you should have a bumper crop.

Also as mentioned above, they will cross pollinate like crazy, so if you grow different varieties in close proximity, the resulting seeds will most likely be a true Heinz 57.

You WILL end up with more chilis than you can eat. Which makes a perfect excuse to make a huge batch of chili chutney and store away for rainy days. Chili Oil is also fairly easy to produce, or you can blend and freeze chilis and just pop them straight into your cooking from frozen.

You can also 'winter' your chili plants after their first crop - by essentially cutting them right back to the first branch, and trimming the root ball to the size of a tennis ball. This stimulate another growth season, although normally not quite as abundant in fruit (see last pic for first new growth after winterising)

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They prefer to be well watered, but also well drained,

So standing the pots in a saucer and filling it when it's empty from the bottom is a really bad idea I suppose? Good to know, cos that's what I'd have done.

You WILL end up with more chilis than you can eat.

In the unlikely event that that's the case, I don't doubt I can palm off fruits to friends and co-workers.

Yes, root rot can be an issue if standing in water. They normally prefer to be dry stressed.
Having said that, I have on occasion fed from above and below - they are thirsty buggers and you can literally see them soaking up the water.
Usually it just means that the pot you have the plant in is too small.

Tend to start mine going in late Feb, in beakers above a radiator in kitchen window (floor to ceiling window facing west-ish for as much sun as possible later). Kind of a guess so that once they have leaves there's lots of spring time Sun.
Decent sized pots once established. Mine are just sat in a saucer.

Lemon Drop ones this year were ace. Nice flavour mid summer crop.

Habaneros seem to take much longer to germinate, and mine seem to start flowering at end of August.

Got most of my seeds from Seaspring Seeds, whose website does state how tall and wide most varieties of plants grow. My Habs usually end up ridiculously wide for a window. Lemon drop was taller, but less wide, so just needed a stake. Prairie Fire, small and bushy, but flavour not as good as habaneros (imho).

White flies and aphids have been a problem.

Have a friend in California, and another in Oklahoma, who both grow Habaneros and Trinidads, and they get way way more crop and months earlier too.

I've had limited success with chillies. Plants do really well and produce load of flowers. However loads of the flowers fall off just before they set fruit. Only ever had 3 or three on each plant at a time. Any tips or explanations?

Flower drop can be an issue - it's normally associated with indoor bred plants where a lack of creepy crawlies means less natural polination takes place. I find it helps to induce early self-polination by using a (very) soft bristled brush and tickling the rude bits.

Also helps to keeps a local window open for long periods during the day, or indeed, take the plants outside for a few nights/weeks when the weather gets really good.

Avoid over watering, scorching sun, and cold (near freezing) temps too.

If you have lots of flowers(blossom) alongside a handful of fruits growing in tandem - it can help to pick these early fruits in order to promote more fruit growth.

As it goes, I recall last year being my lowest yield in general with a fair amount of flower drop. Perhaps the longer milder seasons have had a detrimental effect?
I didn't grow this year but will have another go next season (Feb). I have some formerly worlds hottest 'Infinity' seeds, which I received personally from Woody, the guy that bred the Naga hybrid and owns 'Fire Foods'. He's usually at the East Dean Chili Festival in august - which is a good day out for chili heads.

I had a decent crop of prairie fire chillis this year, all started from seed that had come from fruits grown by my sister the previous year. Pretty easy to grow, P Fire aren't very hot so you need a handful for cooking with (around30k shu) . I've also some young Trinidad scorpions I'm hoping to get through the winter as well as scorpion seeds for starting in the new year.

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I agree that the central chilli in the pic looks a little like a scorpion, knobbly and with a curved tail. Treat with real caution. Incidentally, how the flip do I post s pic direct from Flickr

You can also 'winter' your chili plants after their first crop - by essentially cutting them right back to the first branch, and trimming the root ball to the size of a tennis ball. This stimulate another growth season, although normally not quite as abundant in fruit (see last pic for first new growth after winterising)

Interesting - I've never pruned them, just let them be... How much do you need to water them in winter if you do this?

I think the idea is that pruning them right back shocks them back into early vegetative state - hence restarting the growth cycle. I've yet to grow a plant that didn't die of its own accord after around a year without pruning.

I admit - i've only ever tried it on 2 plants with varying levels of success - IIRC, as long as they aren't exposed to freezing temps you can treat as normal, ie, water once/twice a week at the point you see the leaves start to droop.
Stands to reason that they benefit from the sunniest windowsill you can provide during winter daylight hours.

I'm actually tempted to try an indoor grow tent in the future - a fairly low wattage bulb should provide ample nutrition for a chili plant.

I've also some young Trinidad scorpions

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Op.

Yours is clearly a ghost chilli

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These people do mail order tomatoes and chillis, seeds and plants...

http://www.simpsonsseeds.co.uk/

Slim Jim - you mention a chilli forum, is there one you'd recommend? Maybe uk based? Cheers

iolo's look like these - http://www.simpsonsseeds.co.uk/acatalog/Friar-s-Hat--Bishop-s-Crown--S_CAPH114.html

Tip for potential chilli growers - don't open the window if they're on a window sill. The breeze killed mine 🙁

Right, that does it.
I'll try and grow some from these.
Let's see what they look like next year.
I have enough sunshine where I am through the summer so should be ok.

you won't necessarily grow a plant that produces that same chillies you got the seeds from...

(it's a bit like apples, if you eat an apple, and plant one of it's seeds expecting one day to grow a crop of tasty apples, you'll probably be disappointed by the eventual crop of crab-apple-alikes)

Well, I've bought some seeds from that link posted on page 1, so we shall see!

you mention a chilli forum, is there one you'd recommend?

I used to frequent the forum on FireFoods website: http://firefoods.prophpbb.com/

Would be good to see the STW collective results from chili growing throughout next season!
Feel free to get in touch if any of my exotic seeds are of interest.

Yes a STW chilli collective . . . Happy to volunteer in any chilli chutney making. This year's batches included a recipe I created for ginger and lemon chilli chutney - with the help of some yellow tomatoes I managed to keep it an amazing colour too
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DezB - Member
Well, I've bought some seeds from that link posted on page 1, so we shall see!

well that's different, if you've bought seeds you should expect to grow what you've paid for.

it's not *exactly* like apples, which usually grow on trees, outside, so it's harder to control the pollination process. Chillies are grown inside, so it's easier to control what's having sex with what. But if you're growing chillies to sell for food, there's no point taking care to ensure there's no bugs crawling around your greenhouse pollinating like crazy - which is kinda what you have to do if your intention is to harvest the seeds.

make sense?

Duh

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