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Wanting to build a garage to end them all at the end of the garden and after haking a couple of little ones down and getting the go ahead to have the last one out i'm now only restricted by the trees in the neighbours garden.
conifers are a given but whats the rest? I'm guessing the red leaved one is a cherry tree by tell tale... eh cherry.

If anyone knows how close I can get put a base down to them your a winner. I've already accepted that I may have to have MEGA foundations...

In the neighbours behind us... annoyingly about 2 foot from the border 4 from proposed base
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and its leaves...
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This is about 6 foot from the proposed corner
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Row of conifers from on the right hand neighbour
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Overiew of the end of the garden....
Big one on the let to come out.
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Posted : 07/09/2010 2:40 pm
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Red leaves - plum tree I think?

1st pic - Beech tree?


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 2:43 pm
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Nice crop circle in the bottom photo. Can't help with the trees though.


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 2:44 pm
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Looks like fruit on the 3rd pic - eat it and find out 😉


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 2:45 pm
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The first is a Sycamore I reckon


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 2:49 pm
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the one in the 2nd last is Leylandii. It will grow larger.


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 3:12 pm
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Laburnum?


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 3:24 pm
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Theres a lot of ? going on here peeps where all you green fingered god's when I need them?


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 3:47 pm
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I like the fence spikes!


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 3:53 pm
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If you want a garage (ie masonry structure and concrete floor) rather than a timber shed, you will need proper foundations between 600mm to 1000mm deep depending on soil conditions.

Excavating generally under the spread of the tree will:
a) destroy the roots and damage the tree, potentially destabilising it
b) leave your structure liable to the effects of soil heave, the result being cracks in the floor slab and walls.

Google NHBC guidance for constructing within safe distances of certain tree types.

I suggest you go for a lightweight structure (timber / prefabricated) to minimise the risk of damaging both the trees and your hidy-hole.

Check with the Planning Authority too - not sure of the requirements there.


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 3:55 pm
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gs - your pics are sh*te, hence the ? 😉

It's definitely a plum tree (red leaves)

Can you take some better pictures of the leaves and bark of the first tree, thanks 🙂


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 3:56 pm
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lol don't blame me. Blame the iphone 😉

Mmm did think about a lighter structure on a decent thickness concrete raft but security is the main issue with it being at the end of the garden.


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 4:26 pm
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what 40mpg said... I was just about to post the same thing, either that or some big pile founds which shouldn't be affected by the foilage too much.

*note this may increase the build costs slightly


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 4:35 pm
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My garage is built on a 6" raft, reinforced with bits of glass fibre. It's a biggun, brick built with a pitched & tiled roof and the raft doesn't cause any weaknesses.


 
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The first i reckon is a laburnham, with the beginning stages of a leaf minor infestation. Second one is some kind prunus cultivar (copper plum tree in english) although i cant tell exactly from the photo. And the last one a Cupressocyparis leylandii.


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 5:09 pm
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Larch?


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 5:23 pm
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Just what tflb said, was about to post it before dinner turned up, though I didn't know the plum specifics, ornamental stuff isn't really my thing. Only the lelandii is going to get real big, guess your neighbours have them for privacy though, so may not want rid, could try to persuade them that a beech hedge would be better, holds leaf all year round in various colours, can be trimmed tidier and thicker. You can trim anything over your boundary line. Digging up tree roots can compromise tree health and stability. How strong has a shed got to be?


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 5:26 pm
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mmm could go wih a big ass shed I guess but would I not have the same ol stability issues, cracked slabs etc

If I were to go with raft slab how low can I get away with digging before distubing any important roots?
Can any roots be cut away at all or is a case of trying to disturb as little as possible?

I can trim overhanging stuff but not to much of an issue, the problems come with the various root structures and what kind of foundations / type of slab I can get away with


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 6:56 pm
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solid rigid structure, may need be a 20 footer to fit your garden

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Posted : 07/09/2010 10:34 pm