[Closed] What is wrong with Russia

Bindun....kinda.

That isn't particularly outrageous for Russia.

Take two unpleasant cultures.
Mix 'em up.

Hey presto!

Sounds like a great idea to me. Throw in weapons, fight to the death type scenarios and kill off a few bad eggs in the process.

don't see the outrage in this. better organised and regulated than not.

This sounds morally reprehensible and thorough unpleasant. Can't really see any real difference between this and boxing or UFC though.

Can't really see any real difference between this and boxing or UFC though.

Then, and with all due respect, you're a donut.

Well, if you could place bets on the outcome, I'm up for it, probably be more exciting than your average footy game and it might stop the Neanderthals from kicking off in the middle of a town/city shopping centre.

This kind of organised street fight exists all round the world already. Sometimes it even involves a ball.

Edit. Sedgefield Ball game is an example.

Glad Scotland aren't in it. We'd get pumped in the group stage by San Marino.

I was at one of those indoor trampoline parks with the kids the other week. I thought it would be great fun to issue everyone with a headguard and boxing gloves and have a massive bouncy pagga.

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Didn't the Russians already trial this at the World Cup?

If I ever start a band, I'm going to call our debut album "Massive bouncy pagga".

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These people have a common interest, better they batter each other than pick on someone who isn't interested.

On the list of what's wrong with Russia this is pretty low down the list.

Then, and with all due respect, you're a donut.

I don't see how anyone can condemn one without the other, sorry.

I don't see how anyone can condemn one without the other, sorry.

Professional fighters who train hard for years versus a bunch of football hooligans and you think both are the same? Have you ever boxed or practiced a fighting art? There is a hell of a lot of skill, fitness and discipline involved in both. That up there is a bunch of hooligans stamping on each other, not even remotely the same.

The only difference I can see between the Sedgefield Ball Game and what this guy is proposing is that one comes from a strange culture where folk consume copious amounts of alcohol and talk in a strange tongue, and the other hails from Russia.

I don't see how anyone can condemn one without the other, sorry.

Apology accepted.

It takes a lot of guts to admit when one is in the wrong, so kudos.

Whole telly programme about this on iPlayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08flw2v

Professional fighters who train hard for years versus a bunch of football hooligans and you think both are the same? Have you ever boxed or practiced a fighting art? There is a hell of a lot of skill, fitness and discipline involved in both. That up there is a bunch of hooligans stamping on each other, not even remotely the same.

v8ninety

Both are legalised violence for the entertainment of the masses.

What you fail to realise (or are ignoring for the sake of trolling) is that competitors would fight behind closed doors to test themselves regardless of the audience.

In the same way that Brendan Fairclough or Greg Minaar would risk injury and death to race bikes even if they couldn't make a career out of it, people who train in combat sports want to challenge themselves - it's a reciprocal agreement.

Your comparison of football hooliganism and professional fighters is as relevant as comparing a car theft with WRC because both involve cars.

What you fail to realise (or are ignoring for the sake of trolling) is that competitors would fight behind closed doors to test themselves regardless of the audience.

Your WRC vs TWOCing analogy is poor. A much better analogy would be to compare an unofficial kick about in the park with mates to premiership football. Both soccer, just two ends of the scale.

The issue I have is that boxing, UFC and their ilk legitimise and glamorise extreme violence. I see no real moral difference between that and the hooliganism. I daresay that a lot of violent hooligans would actually aspire to and are probably inspired by the likes of UFC, which really is legitimised premier league thuggery.

Oh, and offering an alternative opinion is not trolling.

Sounds like a good way to raise the average IQ of Russians. The fallen will not be missed.

Should issue basic street fighting weapons like cleavers, open razors, knives, and hammers. BYOBB*

Then it would sound like the Glasgow I knew 50 years ago...

*Bring Your Own Broken Bottle.

nothing.

just another thing to add to the list

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

The more organised casuals'd probably think this is a brilliant idea tbh, save them a lot of hassle finding suitable kids' playgrounds to beat crap out of each other in.

Btw, to answer the OP, what's wrong with Russia. Fairly simple. It's isolated, so ****ed up in an inbred sort of way. Take note brexiteers.

It's on the BBC website- must be true!

Take note brexiteers.

Do I get a free woman to beat after brexit, or do I need to find my own ?

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Sounds like a good way to raise the average IQ

This isn't possible - it's a normalised rating.

When we look at the Russian mentality from our perspective it can be a bit bewildering. But from the context of the Russian concept of self, and with a sprinkling of Russian social history, it's not that unexpected.

These organised football brawls are only just an underground sport in Russia already. There was an excellent documentary following a few of the participating 'teams' a couple of weeks back. With that in mind, the politician's proposal isn't that far-fetched.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08flw2v
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All it did was show that England, traditionally the home of hooliganism, is simply turning out a bunch of overpaid flabby degenerates who talk a good game, but are incapable of putting on a good performance in a major tournament. Not like our national football side at all. 😀