[Closed] What is Scientology?

Pay me 50,000 pounds and I'll tell you.
If you don't pay me, it show a lack of commitment to seeking the answer.

It was L Ron Hubbard proving that starting a relgion was the easiest way to make money and then it all got a bit out of hand, I think?

It now seems to exist solely to give the insiders a way of exercising control over others.

As explained by South Park, [url= http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104274/what-scientologist-actually-believe ]this[/url] is (really and truly) what they actually believe.

Incredible as it seems.

it show

Didn't Hubbard invent Scientology for a bet?

It now seems to exist solely to give the insiders a way of exercising control over others

Very much like most political and religious organisations.

it is a money making cult made up by a science fiction writer, basicaly you pay to join and pay to progress through the levels and find out more.

I did type more but then recalled that they rely hevily on legal actions and lots of members contacting publications and individuals in inventive ways to register disapproval so deleted it. Google is your friend .

When you join you get a free massage off John Travolta. But that definitely doesn't make you gay, or owt

I'm no way involved in it but I have a friend who was . He had been heavily drug addicted until he joined them , it ended up costing him around £1000 but their methods worked and he is now drug free. He says they are very good but use them for your own benefit , if you have the need, and don't get too sucked in as they can be quite demanding of your time and finances . I have seen a change in his personality which is very much for the better so I am now open minded on them .

I'm no way involved in it but I have a friend who was . He had been heavily drug addicted until he joined them , it ended up costing him around £1000 but their methods worked and he is now drug free. He says they are very good but use them for your own benefit , if you have the need, and don't get too sucked in as they can be quite demanding of your time and finances . I have seen a change in his personality which is very much for the better so I am now open minded on them .

Quite hide !

The undercover scientologists are here already 🙄

its to prove that a lot of hollywood actors are stupid.

I see Tom Cruise was on the telly again the offer night.

He had been heavily drug addicted until he joined them , it ended up costing him around £1000 but their methods worked and he is now drug free.

He paid for not drugs?

It's a wonderful opportunity to watch human fallability in action.

Google it, it's terrifying, pathetic and hilarious, all at once.

Xenu's my favourite, can't wait for the action figure.

By the looks of it they can be quite annoying....

He simply couldn't afford the drugs anymore...

Bonkers. That's what it is....

but he paid £1000

To be honest, he'd have been better off spending it on drugs

It's bets summed up as . . .

jumping around on sofa's and losing your wife . . .

The technical explanation is: "A load of old bollocks for fleecing a bunch of credulous half-wits", I believe...

It's a cult the same as any other religion.

^ funny

yes sci fiction writer who said
You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.
started a religion that has a story remarkably like a sci fiction story

All religions require you to have some faith and IMHO gullibility bit I rather suspect this takes the [s]biscuit[/s]money form the believers.

see the drugs help
Whilst i am pleased it helped your friend it is worth noting that

To this day there exist no independent and recognized studies that can confirm the efficacy of the Narconon program

I like the bit where the son of God came to Earth and died for all our sins on a donkey; with a prostitute riding pillion

what is scientology?

hilarious, that's what it is.

He had been heavily drug addicted until he joined them , it ended up costing him around £1000 but their methods worked

I wonder how much a GP referral to a drugs dependency unit would have cost?

Or, dare I say it, whether he would have got the same gain by joining a more "traditional" religion, which usually has the benefit of being free*

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* ("free" implies no direct financial cost. Your eternal soul may be at risk if you do not keep up prayers. Damnation may go up as well as down. This does affect your statutory rights.)

GrahamS - Member

* ("free" implies no direct financial cost. Your eternal soul may be at risk if you do not keep up prayers. Damnation may go up as well as down. This does affect your statutory rights.)

ROFL!

Its not recognised as religion in the ul which means no charitable status and tax breaks....... the thetans have hold of the tax system STILL fre yourself brothers

I like the way it claims copyright on its teachings as well

Xenu was about to be deposed from power, so he devised a plot to eliminate the excess population from his dominions. With the assistance of psychiatrists, he gathered billions[4][5] of his citizens under the pretense of income tax inspections, then paralyzed them and froze them in a mixture of alcohol and glycol to capture their souls. The kidnapped populace was loaded into spacecraft for transport to the site of extermination, the planet of Teegeeack (Earth).[5] The appearance of these spacecraft would later be subconsciously expressed in the design of the Douglas DC-8, the only difference being that "the DC8 had fans, propellers on it and the space plane didn't".[21] When they had reached Teegeeack, the paralyzed citizens were unloaded around the bases of volcanoes across the planet.[5][8] Hydrogen bombs were then lowered into the volcanoes and detonated simultaneously,[8] killing all but a few aliens.

Alan Shore [url=

it all[/url].

I like that other bit where Allah talks to Mohammed in a cave and tells him everything and Mohammed writes it down.

To be fair my friend had tried many other sources of help but for whatever reason, I'm not completely sure, they had failed. To say other religions are free is a joke , I know many people who go to church and fork out 10% of their wages for the privilege, I'm not religious myself , almost to the point of detesting it as I come from an extremely religious family/ history , so Nealglover you couldn't be more wrong or insulting . I am trying to give my one experience I have come across of someone who has actually been in it !

[i]I know many people who go to church and fork out 10% of their wages for the privilege[/i]

there's people on here who seem to spend more than that on bicycles t ride for a couple of hours on a Sunday morning 😉

Scientology is very clever in that it can carp on any old unbelievable crap and sit safe in the knowledge that no other religion can call foul because they're based on a bunch of old claptrap as well. The only defence other religions have is that they've been banging on about it longer. Having said all that the Scientologists worry me a lot more than the C. of E.

I'd happily consign the lot of it to the dustbin.

Credit where it's due to L Ron Hubbard, he'd conceived the perfect money making organisation over the course of a few pints one evening and it's been wholly successful at making a few people stinking rich while at the same time appearing to be a load of wobbly sh**e to about 80% of the population. He'd have made an awesome politician.

Oh and having read Battlefield Earth as a teenager, I can safely say that it's low grade pulp sci-fi at it's most medicore and a copy is best kept by the lavatory in case one runs out of bog paper at an inopportune moment. The film was laughably dire, the only way it could have been a success would be if it were done tongue in cheek and had played the questionable content on it's sleeve, like Starship Troopers. Instead, a bunch of misguided Scientologists tried to make a film failful to Hubbard's vision and in doing so blew $200m of the Churh of Scientology's funds on a colossal turkey.

To quote Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does".

it is a money making cult made up by a science fiction writer, basicaly you pay to join and pay to progress through the levels and find out more

Ah like World of Warcraft.

cult = unpopular religion.

can't take credit for that, saw it in Grazia LOL

There's another good bit where all the people are slaves. One man then frees the slave with some plagues and the slaves run away for a new life. The masters then chase after them and the sea opens and stuff.

Sounds good alex222, someone should make a movie of it or something.

The sea opens? Pfft! Preposterous! You'll be on about talking burning bushes next?

[i]There's another good bit where all the people are slaves. One man then frees the slave with some plagues and the slaves run away for a new life. The masters then chase after them and the sea opens and stuff[/i]

but then they upset their deity of choice and he punishes a generation as yet unborn by making them live in a desert for 40 years.

gods eh? always kick you in the goolies just after rescuing you from an oppresive government.

Pastafarianism, the only true faith.

Do you get your own spaceship?

so Nealglover you couldn't be more wrong [b]or insulting [/B]

Trust me, I could.

When it comes to Scientology I have plenty of personal experience, and can be a lot more insulting than that.

Ah like World of Warcraft.

😆

EDIT: Dangerously on-topic, my ex had a friend who got lured into Scientology, he ended up spending £12,000 on it before he saw sense. They just caught him at a very bad time in his life, and his vulnerability made him a wee bit gullible.

There's a Pig, a Fish and a Monkey who know Kung Fu. The
Monkey particularly must attain forgivness for his sins.

I'd follow Tripitaka anywhere, as long as I too could have massive kung fu skills, a flying cloud and a magic stick. Who wouldn't?

nealglover - Member

so Nealglover you couldn't be more wrong or insulting

Trust me, I could.

When it comes to Scientology I have plenty of personal experience, and can be a lot more insulting than that.

Shall we have a contest?

Everyone needs something to believe in at some point in their life, and a lot of people like a regimented structure to help them and someone telling them what they already know (see the success of slimming world/weight watchers etc).

Its also quite nice to feel like you belong to a group and feel valued by that group.

admmitably its a fairly weird club to join, but what other people do to help themselves is their business

[i]meehaja - Member
Everyone needs something to believe in at some point in their life, and a lot of people like a regimented structure to help them and someone telling them what they already know[/i]

Science FTW! (Agree with your point though)

meehaja - Member
Everyone needs something to believe in at some point in their life, and a lot of people like a regimented structure to help them and someone telling them what they already know (see the success of slimming world/weight watchers etc).

Its also quite nice to feel like you belong to a group and feel valued by that group.

admmitably its a fairly weird club to join, but what other people do to help themselves is their business

Sorry, but are you talking about Scientology or the Pub here?

What's scientology? I'm talking about cycling!

Shall we have a contest?

Ill take Chess.

Maybe Giant Slalom.

Is that what you had in mind.

Shall we have a contest?

They already had one it was called the Crusades or something. All good fun and no one got hurt.

We were in a hotel for lunch last weekend called Camelot Castle in Tintagel on Sunday, strange place, the printing their own newspapers showing the owners with all these famous people, one of the owners is an artist whos a bit strange, he was there, the locals have said it a scienceology headquarters, you should look up one the other of the blokes that owns it, John Mappin.

and a lot of people like a regimented structure to help them and someone telling them what they already know

Science FTW!

Ignorance is bliss.

THE EIGHT I'D REALLY RATHER YOU DIDN'TS

I'd Really Rather You Didn't Act Like A Sanctimonious Holier-Than-Thou Ass When Describing My Noodly Goodness. If Some People Don't Believe In Me, That's Okay. Really, I'm Not That Vain. Besides, This Isn't About Them So Don't Change The Subject.
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Use My Existence As A Means To Oppress, Subjigate, Punish, Eviscerate, And/Or, You Know, Be Mean To Others. I Dont Require Sacrifices, And Purity Is For Drinking Water, Not People.
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Judge People For The Way They Look, Or How They Dress, Or The Way They Talk, Or, Well, Just Play Nice, Okay? Oh, And Get This Through You Thick Heads: Woman=Person, Man=Person. Samey-Samey. One is Not Better Than The Other, Unless We're Talking About Fashion And I'm Sorry, But I Gave That To Women And Some Guys Who Know The Difference Between Teal And Fuchsia.
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Indulge In Conduct That Offends Yourself, Or Your Willing, Consenting Partner Of Legal Age AND Mental Maturity. As For Anyone Who Might Object, I Think The Expression Is Go F Yourself, Unless They Find That Offensive In Which Case They Can Turn Off The TV For Once And Go For A Walk For A Change.
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Challenge The Bigoted, Misogynist, Hateful Ideas Of Others On An Empty Stomach. Eat, Then Go After The B****.
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Build MultiMillion-Dollar Churches/Temples/Mosques/ Shrines To My Noodly Goodness When The Money Could Be Better Spent (Take Your Pick): A. Ending Poverty B. Curing Diseases C. Living In Peace, Loving With Passion, And Lowering The Cost Of Cable. I Might Be A Complex Carbohydrate Omniscient Being, But I Enjoy The Simple Things In Life. I Ought To Know. I AM The Creator.
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Go around Telling People I Talk To you. You're Not That Interesting. Get Over Yourself. And I Told You To Love Your Fellow Man, Can't You Take A Hint?
I'd Really Rather You Didn't Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You If You Are Into, Um, Stuff That Uses Alot Of Leather/Lubrication/Las Vegas. If The Other Person Is Into It However (Pursuant To #4), Then Have At It, Take Pictures, And For The Love Of Mike, Wear A CONDOM! Honestly It's A Piece Of Rubber, If I Didn't Want It To Feel Good When You Did It I Would Have Added Spikes, Or Something.

As explained by South Park, this is (really and truly) what they actually believe.

As others have said, Scientology is a mystery cult, where more is revealed as you progress through its ranks. I'm pretty sure that batsh*t crazy Xenu stuff isn't revealed until you're too far in to call shenanigans on it. Which brings up the question as to why so many people on the Internet know about it. 🙂 I think that originally that information became publically known after a snafu by Scientology lawyers meant it all got used as part of a legal action and so became part of the court record.

I gather that a lot of the basics of Scientology (like Auditing), while having a nice crazy coating boil down to hamfisted psychotherapy type stuff. So it could well be helpful to people, though the organisation itself seems like a deeply unhealthy thing to get mixed up in.

And now for some music (though the comment about Katie Holmes is now out of date):

Scientology is a mystery cult, where more is revealed as you progress through its ranks. I'm pretty sure that batsh*t crazy Xenu stuff isn't revealed until you're too far in to call shenanigans on it.

So, kinda like the Masons then...

..erm... apparently.

It's not that far fetched, is it?

The now-disembodied victims' souls, which Hubbard called thetans, were blown into the air by the blast. They were captured by Xenu's forces using an "electronic ribbon" ("which also was a type of standing wave") and sucked into "vacuum zones" around the world. The hundreds of billions[5][25] of captured thetans were taken to a type of cinema, where they were forced to watch a "three-D, super colossal motion picture" for thirty-six days. This implanted what Hubbard termed "various misleading data"' (collectively termed the R6 implant) into the memories of the hapless thetans, "which has to do with God, the Devil, space opera, et cetera". This included all world religions; Hubbard specifically attributed Roman Catholicism and the image of the Crucifixion to the influence of Xenu. The two "implant stations" cited by Hubbard were said to have been located on Hawaii and Las Palmas in the Canary Islands.[26]

To be fair, it sounds like a right laugh. Why consider joining any other religion?

I might start a religion mash up. Scientololam.
When you die you get to go to heaven in a spaceship, where you are presented with 100 multicoloured virgins for your eternal pleasure.

Scientology is a body of beliefs and related practices created by L. Ron Hubbard ([b]1911–1986[/b]), starting in 1952, as a successor to his earlier self-help system, Dianetics.[4] Hubbard characterized Scientology as a religion, and in 1953 incorporated the Church of Scientology in Camden, New Jersey.[5][6]

[b]Scientology teaches that people are immortal beings[/b] who have forgotten their true nature

you get to go to heaven in a spaceship, where you are presented with 100 multicoloured virgins for your eternal pleasure.

Isn't that just original Star Trek?

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When you die you get to go to heaven in a spaceship, where you are presented with 100 multicoloured virgins for your eternal pleasure.

That works for me as a religion

GrahamS

ah yes, the prime directive of the united federation of planets
if you can't shag it, shoot it

warton - Member
It's not that far fetched, is it?

The now-disembodied victims' souls, which Hubbard called thetans, were blown into the air by the blast. They were captured by Xenu's forces using an "electronic ribbon" ("which also was a type of standing wave") and sucked into "vacuum zones" around the world. The hundreds of billions[5][25] of captured thetans were taken to a type of cinema, where they were forced to watch a "three-D, super colossal motion picture" for thirty-six days. This implanted what Hubbard termed "various misleading data"' (collectively termed the R6 implant) into the memories of the hapless thetans, "which has to do with God, the Devil, space opera, et cetera". This included all world religions; Hubbard specifically attributed Roman Catholicism and the image of the Crucifixion to the influence of Xenu. The two "implant stations" cited by Hubbard were said to have been located on Hawaii and Las Palmas in the Canary Islands.[26]

People really believe this sheet? *shakes head*

Any more bizarre than the big beardy man in the sky who created the universe and everything in 6 days then had to have a lie down and a nice cup of tea before realising he wasn't infallible because at that point he had failed to create either mint yoyos or Tunnock's caramel logs?
Although I'm more of a fan of the Egyptian god Atum,

Atum was a self-created deity, the first being to emerge from the darkness and endless watery abyss that girdled the world before creation. A product of the energy and matter contained in this chaos, he created divine and human beings through loneliness: alone in the universe, he produced from his own sneeze, or in some accounts, semen, Shu, the god of air, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture.

basicaly you pay to join and pay to progress through the levels and find out more

Why don't they just donate to Wikipedia and read what's on there? they really are gullible sods!

Tefnut, the goddess of moisture.

😯 😆

Cougar - Member

Tefnut, the goddess of moisture. 😯 😆

Great minds and all that... 😆

Why don't they just donate to Wikipedia and read what's on there? they really are gullible sods!

But as Wikipedia comments:

Church dogma regards OT III as a dangerous process which can lead to pneumonia, to lack of sleep or even to death if not run correctly.

Third rate sci-fi dressed up as religion can kill you if you're not prepared for it!

* ("free" implies no direct financial cost. Your eternal soul may be at risk if you do not keep up prayers. Damnation may go up as well as down. This does affect your statutory rights.)

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