To my surprise, having discovered over the last few days that this place is a fount of knowlege of all things baby - and a great source or advice and support (especially when trying to justify keeping bikes! 😉 ) I thought I ask for some specific advice...
So, our 1st baby is on the way in 12 weeks - and with sooooo much baby stuff out there, I was wondering what are the items that we actually need??
So, what have you found to be worth its weight in gold, really useful or just properly essential?
So far we have:
Moses basket
Pram/pushchair (bargain off here)
Car seat (p/x for some panniers!)
and a few blankets and clothes (we're having a little girl but my brother has boys)
A very nice guy off here has also offered us a front carrier, Bumbo seat, baby bath and some neutral clothes and grow bags - all for free, which is ace! (Thank you!)
So other than those things, what do you reckon we 'need'?
Thanks in advance!
Juliet
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Loads of muslin squares
Baby bath or bath support
Steriliser & bottles(?)
Breast pump
Ear plugs
a microwave...
1. for heating milk quick in the middle of the night (just give the bottle a really good shake so no hot spots).
2. for sterilizing bottles (graco i think do a really good m/w sterilizing kit)
and most importantly; the midwife does not necessarily know best esp when it comes to feeding!
Baby Bjorn carrier so you can get around without the huge burden that you'll find is the pram! Dad carries junior, and so Mum gets to be free, which I am told by my missus, is a nice break.
Somewhere for the nanny to sleep,so you can go to work and continue to ride bikes.
- Sterilizer and bottles (when you get onto bottles)
- Travel cot (depending on how long the moses basket lasts for but you will need it sooner or later)
- A 'baby bag' for carrying all the crap (sometimes literally) around in - ideally something uni-sex! and a portable changing mat (usually included)
- Microwave - really makes things a lot easier though it's not technically necessary
- The ability to ignore well intentioned advice on what you 'should' do. Do what's right for you.
- A million muslins
Not a lot more that you really 'need'.
Changing mat.
Bottles and steriliser if you can't or don't want to breastfeed.
Monitor (ok, you don't need it, but it makes life easier).
Cot.
An ear thermometer is handy for reassurance when they get their first colds and infections.
But most importantly, coffee. Lots and lots of coffee.
And make sure you've got the house sorted well before it turns up. We had 12 weeks to go and that's when our lad arrived 😉
Baby monitor.
Baby bouncer - those door hanging things.
A decenct sized shed for the other half.
A nanny, or a job that keeps you in a hotel at least 3 times a week! 😉
Get yourself a yahoo mail account and with it you can join your local Free-cycle group. We have got so much baby kit for nothing that it amazes me.
a bucket with a lid. every now and again you'll have something that'll have to be soaked out of the fabric that it's in. a bucket with a lid was a great thing that very few people think of, saved us a packet when we soaked the clothes instead of binning them.
I'll second the baby bjorn. We bought ours off ebay and its been great to use. Will probably stick it back on the bay soon as our little one is getting a bit heavy!
Don't buy too big a cot. We bought a cot bed but its so big, we can't get it through the door of our nursery bedroom to put it in with us! It took so much time to put together and I didn't want to takwe it apart, so we ended buying another cot for our bedroom.
Look for BPA free bottles and dummys. Don't contain any nasty chemicals
And lots of patience 😀
oh and we've found morrisons own brand nappies to be the best
and if you have a newish car with isofix points, get an isofix base. So much easier than dealing with safety belts. Depends if your car seat will work with one but I bet you can pick up an isofix base cheapish on ebay.
Infracol - by the bucket.
Apart from the Bumbo, the Playnest was probably the most effective infant containment device we used.
Can't add anything else to the sensible suggestions above.
Maybe try to go to Makro or Costco for nappies, I'm told they are significantly cheaper.
Plenty of wine (or drink of choice) to get you through the evenings when baby is awake and just will not settle.
+3 for Baby Bjorn.
If into walking, one of those back pack things when they get a little older - kid is nice and high up and love seeing more!
A decent bottle of malt to lay down for 18 years. Also consider announcing the birth in the times. Something to keep. Newspaper of day top single / album. make up a little treasure chest.
My son hated both bumbos and any playnests so my advice there would be try and borrow someone else's first or buy cheap ones!
Good point about the isofix - note that some cars (eg Ford) don't come with them but you can easily add them (£16 for the part for our Focus)
A scalextric set.
We need to get rid of loads of baby related items from when our boys were small(er) feel free to email me with stuff you need and I will see if we have it! (for free of course!)
Lots of all in one/baby grow things as they do tend to make a mess of themselves and need regular changing.
A portable baby changing mat.
We got a wooden thing that sits on the rails of the cot and makes a high level platform for doing changes which was really useful as my good ladys back was pretty buggered and crouching / kneeling was a bit hard.
Shit loads of muslins.
A sleeping bag thing that fastens over the shoulders brilliant they are.
Like this http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.203-1148.aspx
Wow, thanks guys - lots of great advice. And not too scary in terms of the amount of stuff needed.
Quite a few things I hadn't thought of though, so that's cool. We already have a micro-wave so that's another one to cross off the list.
Mr. MM very much likes the idea of some kind of 'child containment device'!
It's nice to know that most of the stuff still needed doesn't seem too pricey as well.
Just brace yourselves for some slightly unusual wanted ads in the classifieds!
Thanks again for all the advice and please keep it coming! I think I'll be pasting this thread into some sort of spreadsheet before too long!
Oh and Clubber - I'm glad you mentioned about the Ford Focus isofix fitting, I'm hoping we can get them retro-fitted quite cheaply as the car seat I p/x with the panniers, came with an Isofix base and the guy said it was definitely worth it, so need to look into that.
Thanks tjr666 - will definitely take you up on that!
+4 for baby born.
Don't bother with a baby bath you will just not use it.
Agian the back carriers are good for weekends away when they are small.
we found a travel stair gate to be really usfull when visiting people who didn't have small kids and on holiday though that can wait till yours can crawl.
If you want to keep riding I recommend getting a bike kid's trailer. I took my three out in our Chariot after about the 8 week period with no problems in fact the bumping around used to send them off to sleep and I got to do some quality hill training while riding on the flat! 🙂
oh yeah...
- A sign telling all visitors (you will get millions) that it's nice of them to come but that they can stay for an hour tops and that they have to make their own cups of tea/coffee (and one for you whilst they're there) AND wash up the mugs afterwards! if they want food, they should bring that too!
Conversely - Thank you cards for the multitude of kind goodies that you will get. We spent the first 3 weeks answering the door to the postie who had at least 2 parcels for us each day!
an 'orange bike' in toddler small size.....
a high tog baby snuggling blanket for the deep freeze temperatures !!!!! infact i wud keep baby in mums tummy ( DO NOT LET OUT TILL SUMMER...too ****in freezin now.... brrrrrr... lol
oh you mite need a changing mat and 2 old towels..1 to put underneath and one to barricade yourself with, cos as soon as you take babys nappy off...they squirt right in your face ! lol
Chris King BB to match the headset?
IGMC...
owenfackrell - Member
Don't bother with a baby bath you will just not use it.
We use our baby bath every day. The normal bath is huge so takes too long to fill or regulate the temperature easily. A bath thermometer is a very useful buy.
Dam you elaine, beat me to it!
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One thing we did with both of ours was for the 9mths leading up to the birth we kept an eye out for bargains in asda & tesco. The ones where wipes were 2 for 1 and baby lotions etc. They tend to go in cycles and you save on some and pay through the nose on others. BUT if you buy them over a long period you can stock up at the cheapest price. You think i am joking but this saves a massive amount of money and it is so convenient to have a store of baby stuff in your house with all the essentials. Even disposable nappies of different sizes. Buy them when they are on offer and you save stacks.
Oh and trekster off here bought my little girl a comforter which was like a little soft toy with mini blanket included. It has been a godsend and stopped us having to go through the process of taking away my older sons big blanket.
A bit off tack from all the above!...
...get some life insurance if you haven't got it already.
- A sign telling all visitors (you will get millions) that it's nice of them to come but that they can stay for an hour tops
thats really good advice, and i would add that you should also be prepared to tell 'family' to go/stay away at times.
One of these:
Or not as the case may be - I'm not getting into a debate on here about the merits or not of dummies, but neither of ours has ever used one.
BTW didn't realise you knew it was a girl - you probably won't want some of the clothes we have in that case.
for colic:
infacol
for teething:
ashtons & parsons powders
general stuff:
ear theomometer
theomometer for your room or wherever you are proposing to put the baby
Just get friendly with parts of E Bay you never knew existed! I've got a (brand new unwanted gift) cot, Bumbo, TummyTub, thermometer, bottles, car seat mount and other stuff well below half price.
I've got a set of these:
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They look a good idea rather than disposable wipes all the time. Good luck.
Try and look at the NCT site as they do nearly new sales and you can save loads of money. We bought a sterilser, baby sling, rucksack, travel cot and a high chair for knock down prices and the stuff they sell is good quality. They also sell loads of baby clothes. Entry is £1 and it is recommended to get there at least 30 mins early as parking can be a problem and all the best stuff gets snapped up quick. It was worth it for us as we saved loads of money.
Good luck with the impending arrival and remember you don't need alot of stuff some people go mad and buy things that they will only use a couple of times.
1) electric steam sterilizer - convenient and pfaff free
2) baby bjorn - invaluable in the first months
3) sudocrem for nappy rash
This was the best thing we bought as it was the only thing which guaranteed both of our kids would go to sleep when they were tiny
Some good advice so far.
Can I add a decent nappy bin if using disposables.
Regarding dummies - have an open mind. We have twins and one has never had one, the other wants one most of the time but at 7 months is now able to find it if she loses it in her cot at night. It just comes down to the baby, not the parents IMO.
Not used our Baby Bjorns much at all - maybe because we can only use them when we are both around.
But most important of all, listen to advice but listen to your own instinct. So many issues we solved have been through doing 'our thing' rather than what some expert says is correct. For example, we struggled with getting them to sleep in the first few months and I noticed that both girls would easily fall asleep if holding my finger so we bought them a little grabber blanket (about 6 inches square with a knot in each corner) each and now they fall asleep as soon as they have them in their hands. And that came from a moment's inspiration one tired night.
Have fun though - I have almost cried on more than one occasion just hearing them laugh, seeing them smile or watching them roll.
🙂
Ohh, and a top tip (as given to us by an off-duty nursery nurse in the car park at Malham with two screaming hungry babies). To get formula milk at the right temperature in a flash - store cleaned bottles approx 50% full with cold water and then add the other 50% freshly boiled (or from a flask if out and about) and the powder. I can make up two bottles in about 1 minute now, start to finish.
🙂
A sledge instead of a buggy! May not be snowing in a few months time, however I saw a fairly tiny baby being pulled along, complete with soft mattress thingy underneath, blankets, pillow and fast asleep.
On a serious note, make a will.
Calbrofen
Blackout blind
Teething powders
A remote themometer - keeping the room they sleep in at 18 means you get a lot more sleep than letting it fluctuate I found
Door bouncer
Don't get dummies
Napisan for getting out poo stains, or just buy all yellow clothes
Second the nasal aspirator
A swing, it's the height of lazy parenting, but means I can put her down in it to do some chores
Breast pump, steriliser, and a couple of bottles, helps when the missus is engorged and nice to give you a chance to feed the baby/take over to give her a long needed undisturbed bath
Lots of cheap vests and baby grows they will get ruined with poo stains and something cheap can be cut off. Oh and on the baby grow note, don't get side button ones get ones the button all the way up the front, they are a nightmare to get off when you have poo leakage
More than two changing towels, poo explosions are a common occurrence
Spotting a common theme here?
Join up the huggies, pampers and boots clubs for loads of vouchers and freebies
And join freecycle, it's a serious money saver, just picked up enough clothes to last our little girl until she's 2!
Don't get dummies
I think that decision has to be made by the parents - each case is different as we have found out.
Agree with joining clubs - we joined all the nappy and food clubs we could find for freebies and discount vouchers. And make sure you get all the goody bags from Bounty.
Congratulations on your baby! I'm expecting my first in March and just wanted to piggy back your posting to ask if anyone's got any reusable nappies they no longer need (Stockport/North Derbyshire Area)? Thanks!
use your own instinct and don believe all the hype. John Lewis did a good baby list - where you get to go in, try things out (buggies etc) and then devise the list - there was no pressure, and lots of good advice (such as dont buy this, its just gimmicky etc)
Lidl nappies are good for the money - ours has used all the way through - cost about 5 quid for 50 - he's nearly 2 and we have just started toilet training, which to carry on the poo theme is fun
second hand always good - we did 2nd hand buggy (bugaboo - was about 1/2 price of new, moses basket, lots of 2nd hand clothes etc) - the only things I wouldnt buy second hand would be car seats
good high char (but not an immediate neccesity) - somthing that wipes down easily, has a removable tray etc. Ours was John Lewis, but we also have an ikea one with removable legs ffor when we go to peoples houses in car ro on holiday.
nice picture books etc for when they are a bit older - we love Goodnight Moon - very good for soothing due to the way its written
good luck
congrats mate, were expecting our firstjune 6th... long way to go yet and still a bit paranoid talking about it..
do you have any mates that have recently had babies?
we already have a load of 'hand me downs'
car seat
pram
high chair
lots of clothes
then again you may want to buy all new stuff, i dont mind hand me downs
ive really noticed recently as im getting used to the idea how snobbish some mates are, well snobbish is probably too storng a word but some buy eveyrthing from asda/tesco etc while other only buy in mammas and pappas/ Gap for kids and sort of 'give a funny look' when other mates have cheaper clothes on...
each to their own i guess 😉
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Kari-Me sling[/url] - not exactly cheap considering what it is but has a number of benefits over the more complex arrangements. easy to use, comfortale for the smallest baby and easy to shove in a bag. our monkey spent very little time in his buggy!
Baby bath dam - a dam to convert a normal bath into a short one. Move it as the baby grows, means that the bath never needs filling and no baby bath to buy 🙂
Got one for sale also 🙂
£20 posted ono
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sky+ in the bedroom for when you and/or the missus are up half the night feeding/trying to get the baby to sleep. 3am tv is crap, and you'll of missed all the decent stuff that was on earlier.
Without reading the avove:
microwave steriliser
Lots of wipes
Calpol
a lightweight fold up alu buggy (avoid the 3 wheeler heavy ones that are a "system")
resolve to ignore junior at 3am in the morning when they are just trying it on!
For out and about some "Tommee Tippee Storage Pots"
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Simply idea but you take your sterile water & milk powder out (unmixed but both measured) and mix when needed. Helped us get out and about without worrying about feeding time.
One of those "Jungle Gym" mats for them to lie on.
Aldi wipes were good.
See if you can find a Stoke Trip Trap high chair. Expensive but they turn into a stool. We are still using ours.
Stoke Trip Trap high chair - wish we'd done that from the beginning
one of the bouncy chairs. We got the fisherprice rain forest bouncer.There are loads on ebay. Its wkd and plays nice tunes that dont irritate you. This was invaluable as it was such a good place to put him whilst you got on with a few bits around the house.
Sounds obvious but make sure you have 5-10 frozen meals made up in the freezer. I thought what a load of rubbish when people told me to do this. When I got out of hospital and home I thought Damn!!! why wasnt i a bit more organised
Earplugs and noise cancelling earphones so the worker in the house can sleep.
Not so much something to buy, but something to do. If you have squeeky floorboards near the baby's room, screw them down! You probably don't notice them now, but both you and the baby most certainly will notice them at 3.30am after trying to get the baby back to sleep since 2am 😥
One other thing get your missus something nice, vouchers for shopping or something like a spa day or somesuch. It's proper graft for a few months and after a rough night springing a nice little surprise might really cheer her day up.
I'd also get Gina Fords book not everyone likes her methods but they worked for us and they boys were very contented and slept well.
Oh, and a good bed time routine.
sky+ in the bedroom for when you and/or the missus are up half the night feeding/trying to get the baby to sleep. 3am tv is crap, and you'll of missed all the decent stuff that was on earlier.
I thought we were doing things you need when on a budget? I which case a freeview HD recorder would make better financial sense assuming you really feel the need (there are things you can do other than watch TV).
Not at 3 in the morning there isn't 🙂 We ended up watching loads of the last away ashes series with our first, it was the only thing on allnight.
a case of chardonnay and a nanny.
Oh and get some bibs when you're breastfeeding you and baby both make a heck of a mess, we go through a couple a day but saves numerous changes, due to wet grows.
Second the pre cooked meals, I did a 10 day supply and it was a life/sanity saver.
And above all do what feels right for you, I co slept after the 4am feed as it meant we both got more sleep, now she tends to happily fall back asleep on her own.
Enjoy it and good luck
Not own any books then? Personally at 3 in the morning I'd not bother opening my eyes enough to do either though. Then again we're weird and old-fashioned - our only TV is in the living room.
And make sure you have helpful friends/relatives our mums made us lots of meals to reheat (similar suggestion to above preparing with meals in the freezer) and don't turn down any offers of help! And to contradict the screwing floorboards down suggestion - we went with the 'make lots of noise' option - makes sure they will go down when there is noise in the house. Tonight we were vacuuming straight after bedtime 🙂
Regarding dummies - have an open mind. We have twins and one has never had one, the other wants one most of the time
I'm confused - how come one of your children knows of the existence of a dummy? Or is it an experiment where you tried it out on one but not the other?
(yes I know I said I wasn't getting into a debate on dummies 😯 )
Because early on Evie wouldn't settle unless she had a bottle in her mouth (even if she wasn't feeding) so we tried it and it worked - she settled. Izzi always was better at settling.
Loads of good suggestions above. The ones that I could recommend:
The Kari-Me sling mentioned above is very good. My wife used it loads, during the day she would often attach the baby and carry on with normal things. They do out grow it after 8 months or so, but up to then it is good - as long as you can figure out how it works...
Loads of new born baby vests, you will get through loads of these each day. Don't buy lots of nice 0-3 month old clothes, we found lots of people bought the baby these as presents anyway. You are better off saving your money and buying them nice clothes when they are a bit older.
While you won't need one for a while we have found this very good as a travel cot: http://www.pushchairs.co.uk/acatalog/travel_bed_moss.html#a484 It packs up small yet forms a very sturdy cot. We have used it all over the place.
Ear plugs are good for when it is your turn to get some sleep. And the comments about recording TV are very true too, you do end up awake at very odd times.
A temperature & moisture controlled cabinet for storing that Orange 5 frame away. 🙂
From the Wife...
Samsonite Pop-Up baby bed. Simply ace. Fully zipped in, ideal for stop-overs. And stopping over is a doddle when they are really small.
Angelcare Monitor. (The one with the sensor pad). I know, probably unnecessary but reassuring.
If you go down the soother route, & PLEASE DONT FEEL GUILT IF YOU DO, Boots sell a little perspex box for microwave sterilising them. If you cant find one let me know, I'm sure we have a spare somewhere. Both ours had soothers, & both gave them up without a fuss...to Santa & Easter Bunny.
Electric breast pump if you choose that method. Do whatever suits you. Midwives can be very very pushy but it has to suit you. My wife struggled but all credit to her, she stuck at it & both of ours had over 9 months of the good stuff. If you ever feel like dropping her a word for some support, I'm sure she'll be glad to help.
If your planning any more get a Phil & Ted now. Wish we had done.
ISOFIX is nice but if the seats are staying put for long periods dont pay too much extra for it.
And join some groups now. My Wife has a whole new circle of friends thanks to the groups she joined, & over 4 years on they still meet up weekly. (And long may it continue...thats one of my riding times).
And dont get too tense if your up at night, it wont go on forever, it gets easier & as a Dad I loved the 3am cuddles...proper bonding time etc.
And enjoy.
Baby Bath Dam?
FFS!!
what a load of bollox that idea is! they all love to swim, simply support their head with one hand an let them do laps!
Get a PS3 - they sleep a lot (well mine do/did anyway)
Skim read the above and there doesn'e seem to have been much mention of washable nappies.
We use Motherease onesize nappies, we bought 20 in 2006 when littlelister#1 was new, then another 8 when #2 came along in 2008, now we are using them just for #2.
Seriously, the amount of money you save by not buying nappies every week is astounding. We've done rough estimates with our friends next door who also have 2 small ones and they drop SO much money on disposables every month compared to us.
We do use (nature baby) disposables for nightime but during the day the washables are ace.
Yes, our 'leccy bill will be bigger, but when you're doing so many washes compared to prebaby days then it doesn't make that much difference.
You can also get washable wipes called cheekywipes and they have saved us another small fortune.
Email in profile if you want more info (mrs lister was a real nappy advisor for pembrokeshire council until recently).
GW - it's so you don't use unnecessary amounts of water. Jnr's not going to be doing lengths for a while!
mate, they can swim from birth.
and you'll be using loads more water once you have kids.. 🙄
Bath it in the sink if you're that bothered! 😉
You're not one of those earthy types that sticks a brick in their cistern to save the planet and lets their house stink of pish/shit coz nothing flushes properly are you?
😛
Enough on the baby bath comments - assuming we can work out transport she has one on the way. Personally I reckon it's easier on the back than having to bend down into a full size bath, but she can make her own mind up.
Start with my tips.
Get plenty of mattress sheets for the cot / crib, and then stack them up interleaved with protecters (the nappy companies do absorbent paper ones or you can use older style plastic / rubber sheets.) When small, babies regurgitate milky stuff a lot from experience and changing bed clothes is a task you don't want in the middle of the night. This way you can peel off the dirty one and the protector underneath while the wife changes clothes / growbag as necessary, and deal with the washing in the morning. We still do it now for the occasional nighttime accident.
Second - try to offer up nice easily portable and relatively common soft toys. You can't predict which will become the favourite but far easier if it's Piglet from Winnie the Pooh rather than that unique one that your parents bought from a market in Botswana when they were on holiday. Because [and whisper this bit] then you can get a spare for when it gets lost / left at a friend's house at the other end of the country. Owning 2 incarnations of 'Donkey' has saved my bacon on more than one occasion. Although when we did actually lose one of him we had a nervous bidding war on ebay to get another backup!!
Now my moan:
Midwives can be very very pushy but it has to suit you. My wife struggled but all credit to her, she stuck at it & both of ours had over 9 months of the good stuff.
Good point this, and I could write an essay on it - but to try to keep it short, our first started on the breast but never took to it and after nearly a month of cracked nipples / support from Laleche / NCT / various other helps finally my mum practically demanded we give a bottle of formula. My wife was mortified as if she'd failed and was terrified of what the midwife would say when she came round. But to our surprise and later annoyance, the midwife admitted she was under huge duress from her bosses to meet targets on getting mothers to breastfeed and as the wife seemed so determined even though the midwife thought that a bottle was needed she felt unable to suggest it because it would have shown as a miss on her record. DO WHAT SUITS YOU AND BABY BEST.
I didn't post it up there, I was just clarifying it's use. Looks a pretty good idea to me. Can't say I've ever thought of letting Jnr swim in the bath, I just take him swimming instead. 😀
And buy PJs and a decent warm dressing gown for yourself and your wife - you will spend most of the first 6 months wandering the house in the middle of the night.