After two evenings with stones thrown at my windows I thought I'd better seek help.You to can have nice neighbours,dragged up drunken and violent.Hopefully my housing provider might have something sensible to say tomorrow.Any support advice gratefully appreciated.Neil.
PS-I,m told the gypsies are going to put my windows in this week.
I'd start with not using the phrase 'the gypsies'.
My mother in law was constantly getting kids throwing stones at her windows and breaking them. The cops were sympathetic but powerless to do anything even after she had CCTV pictures of them doing it.
The solution was to screw big sheets of clear polycarbonate over the top of the window frames. The view is not noticably compromised and, based on a review of the CCTV, the look on the little scrotes faces when half a brick just bounces off it is comedy gold.
They soon stopped.
I’d start with not using the phrase ‘the gypsies’.
Eh?
Plice can't do anything?
CBA more like.
Do Aldi do flamethrowers? Sport clothing is quite flammable I hear 😀
Plice can’t do anything?
Can't prosecute 10 year olds.
Their parents don't GAF.
Has the OP upset anyone recently?
My parents resorted to getting some shutters fitted.
It was a smallish Welsh town and in the end my Mum telling all the old people at the bus stop how much it had cost them and the worry it had caused was enough to get it stopped - word was put out.
OP - As a short term fix something plastic film or carbonate as above, CCTV and some security lights.
I hope it's sorted but I'd prepare for a long battle, I'm afraid.
Not really helpful, but me and a couple of friends had this years ago. Kid of about 10 would regularly throw bricks at the front door. One of my house mates went around to the parents house and threatened to kick the shit out of the dad if he didn’t get his kid under control.
No more bricks but also never saw the child again 😱
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In Scotland there's a sytem for dealing with kids - involving social work I think - nothing like that in Englandshire?
Throw some stones back at the little shits*
*don't follow this advice
Needs context.
air gun?
andybrad - are you suggesting he shoots the stone throwers with an airgun?
That would be considered a firearms offence and he would go to prison.
So put a sock in it you idiot.
If the police won't do anything, realistically unless you are willing to take matters into your own hands there is not much you can do. That's just the way of the world for some people, only thing they will respond to is a good kicking.
[i]If the police won’t do anything, realistically unless you are willing to take matters into your own hands there is not much you can do.[/i]
Whilst I don't doubt for one minute that this statement is true, the implication of what it means, is truly soul destroying.
Not kids an aggressive drunk.I have had to make some complaints about ASB.Sadly instead of growing up they feel the need to get violent instead.Police are now taking it seriously and showing concern.Not sure I can say the same about my social housing provider.Think I might have to rent privately.Thanks for the sensible responses.I realize I am in some difficulty.
My friend Gary thinks that in our collapsed society this sort of thing is not unusual.I didn't use the word gypsies,the yob did.
I really don't think violence is an option.this,despite the fact I own a pair of 55Rs.
There is a large CCTV camera at the end of the road.Perhaps something might show up on there.
Three hours and no mention of Brexit! What's this ****ing place coming to.
Good point - next April they can be sent back to where they came from. The fact that is probably England is only a minor flaw in the solution.
I think Zane that the hot weather is a more relevant factor.Police told me they've been ran of there feet lately.Of course,it doesn't help that I live in a severely deprived town where drink,drugs and little education are the norm.I don't think Mad Max is to far off.Of course non of this solves tonights issue of stones being thrown(no doubt).
I think we're getting of the point.
Where are you?
Super soaker + piss = vengance....
Social housing? How do you afford your £8K enduro machine they advertise in the mags?
Per chance does sir have a pair of bombers in his collection of bicycle spares?
Middlesbrough,and I ride a 10 year old BansheeX.I,m a bit concerned about going home tonight.I,ll need to leave the windows open because of the heat.I could get injured.Not much point in going to bed really.
Yes funk but not much use really.I would just end up in bother and I have no idea when the attacks will take place.
Middlesbrough,and I ride a 10 year old BansheeX.I,m a bit concerned about going home tonight.I,ll need to leave the windows open because of the heat.I could get <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">injured.Not</span> much point in going to bed really.
Who else is in your house? Any chance of getting a mate round for back up?
Bullies thrive on knowing you are scared, or that they are intimidating you.
You need to square up to him, and either give him a real good punch in the belly, or one to the chin to knock him out.
If you do that, you get on his neck when he's on the floor, and tell him you'll be round with a bat to break his skull if he bothers you again.
Works every time. OK, the one time I did it, it worked.
Just me unfortunately.I,m at a friends at the moment but I,ll have to go back shortly.
All joking aside I really wish there was some genuine advice I could give you OP. I’d end up losing it with the idiot. You’ve done well to stay calm and not knock the shit out of him to be honest.
Who is local? You need a STW show of force.
Middlesbrough? Do they still have windows?
Best one I saw was a neighbour having their windows shot out with a shotgun. Police turned up but didn’t stop (they barely slowed down).
Then there was the fire engine the locals lobbed Molotov cocktails at.
The lads I trained with kept cropping up on world most murdery gangster documentaries a few years back. Well, the survivors did.
Nuke it from orbit...
Think your right mate.I,m not really keen on going to jail for assault.Plus,he has a little bit more backup than me.Imagine,I paid to move into a civilised work at home space for mature people.I got aggressive anti social yobs who don't know how to behave.Nuke option would also kill many decent people and cause 50p worth of damage.
Thanks for your thoughts folks anyway.I hope some of you are up late,I've got a feeling I,m going to need some support.Cheers
Why can’t the police do anything about it?
Edit - Really not good advice
I've absolutely no practical advise. But your forum name is the same as a great pub band who do the rounds by me. This is them at my local, at least they might cheer you up a bit 😁
Does sir have access to a car? Can the yob be persuaded to get on a bike?
Drive over yob, 3 points, slap on the wrist and problem solved. (He won't be wearing hi-vis or a helmet, I will be all the bike-riders fault).
Is there any one you can borrow a Rottvieler from for a few weeks? For the company of course. Rent a dog should really be a thing.
Thank you taxi,I,ll try and watch it later.I,m home now sat in the dark as I,m not in the mood for trouble(there probably will be anyway).To all those who think that violence or the police can easily solve this problem.You should really start to think a little deeper about the nature of the society we live in.The police have suffered massive cuts and you can't kill all the psychopaths.
Noticed a fat drinking partner of his hanging for a bit longer than usual on his dog walk near me.Ummmm,who knows.
How did it start op?is there anyway of being able to speak with said prick about the problem?
my guess is from reading into your post and replies,your being bullied,unfortunately these types only understand one rule of thumb,again unfortunately sometimes you have to lower your standards,morals and general good normal human behaviour too get these types to understand that how they behave is wrong,Do Not be afraid,you'll be surprised with yourself with what you can cope with,these people don't have genuine friends like yourself,these people once approached in a particular manner will genuinely think twice,Once you treat them with lack of respect they treat you,Most of the times in these situations it's the only way,Unfortunate as it sounds,violence is the only way they understand,and remember the law says if you are being threatened in a way that you feel your in danger your within your rights too Attack,and defend yourself.
Ill drop you a private message over the next few days.
Thanks,I,ve thought about the violence route,but I,ve gone down the police/Wardens and housing staff route.I won't be speaking to the deranged/alcoholic head case.What would be the point?If attacked I will try to defend myself like that farmer who was burgled and ended up in jail on a murder charge.This country doesn't give a fluck about victims.I wonder if things are approaching the point where ordinary folks may need to be armed.The police do not have the resources to protect us.
Well,at least it looks like he only wishes to attack if he thinks I'm in.Not much good really.
I won’t be speaking to the deranged/alcoholic head case.What would be the point?If attacked I will try to defend myself like that farmer who was burgled and ended up in jail on a murder charge.This country doesn’t give a fluck about victims.I wonder if things are approaching the point where ordinary folks may need to be armed.The police do not have the resources to protect us
I know this doesn't much help your current situation, but this scenario really is only a very very very small part of society as a whole, not really the norm.
For all the jokes and daft comments in this thread, it does sound like you are genuinely scared for your safety.
Is it one of the people with no fixed abode that actually have a council approved fixed abode so are not going anywhere, or a group of caravans that appeared on private land?
Both bring there own problems but I'd not be having a go at the bloke if it is likely you'll end up with a camp site full on your doorstep.
Has to be asked - why are you a target, what happened to initiate it?
Irrespective of the situation, nobody should live with a genuine fear to be in their own house!
I explained why earlier.Its currently all quiet on the Western front.The weekend will be the litmus test for any change in behaviour.
.I wonder if things are approaching the point where ordinary folks may need to be <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">armed.</span>
No, cos then the attackers would have guns and you'd be even more afraid.
No you wouldn't,because at least you'd stand a chance.
Yep, a gunfight is what will make it all better
Have you got a friend across the road who's open window you could borrow?
If so, make it look like your house is occupied and go and wait in your friends house with one of these...
Every time he throws a stone put one in his back.
Good idea.
My late father thought the only solution to the problems in central Middlesbrough was a machine gun.At the time I didn't agree,but I now strongly understood how he felt.Some places are collapsed beyond the reach of help.
Yep, then he can start throwing stones at your neighbours house, a problem shared and all that.
I will try to defend myself like that farmer who was burgled and ended up in jail on a murder <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">charge.</span>
Unless you intend on having an unlicensed semi-auto shotgun and shooting him in the back as he runs away I think you're quite safe. Funny how none of the "you can't defend yourself any more" mob ever remember those small details.
A lot of the ‘can’t defend your own home nowadays’ stories I have heard, have been friend of a friend type things. You can use reasonable force as described above - which offers some significant room for people’s own judgement.
There is plenty you can do
firstly check where you want to live on this :
https://www.police.uk/gloucestershire/FA9/crime/
It will load on my town but you can change it to yours - all we had in May was sexual violence.
find someehere with zero or very low crime
Sell up and move there
Simples
"reasonable force" only really applies to Section 1 offences - stones on the windows doesnt even register
Well back again folks,the now unemployed alcoholic is giving me a bit of abuse again.Told me he`s going to end my life and the Gypsies will be dealing with me.I told Cleveland Police about it and haven't even had the courtesy of a reply.I have also contacted them on a number of occasions but only one record has been kept!Makes you kinda wonder what the real agenda is.To be fair at an earlier date a PCSO went round to see him twice when he was drunk.He just lied of course being the drunken scumbag he is.
My Housing Manager on hearing the news said"I would never be in a position where I would be abused in the street."This is the level of arrogant ignorant halfwit that North Star Housing employ.God help us all.
I have to leave the library now,thanks in advance for any advice and support.I`ll try and reply later on.
White transit van with side doors, get a few mates as well.
You need balaclavas, big zip ties, old rags, gallons of water, pliers, petrol, bleach, plastic sheeting and mbp DNA away.
Line van with plastic sheeting. Drive up besides them and snatch them, drive out to a desolate area, waterboard them, pull out their teeth and then set them on fire.
Clean van with DNA away and then drive it to Europe and burn it.
Also, I'm joking. Don't do this, it would unfortunately be covered by a number of UK offences. Who would have thought that shooting someone with an airgun or kidnap and murder is illegal?
Is the abuse always when he is pi55ed ? Keep on at the cops.
Can't imagine how you feel in your situation, hope you can get out of there asap. Don't think you can't take the fight people like this and win unfortunately.
I have no idea what I'd do in your position, what a horrible place to be - I wish you only the very best.
Sounds awful. I cant help thinking if he was such a hard man he wouldnt have to keep referring to this back up he apparently has. And if his back up was really so keen to get involved you might have seen them already. Realistically its hard to call it from a few posts on a forum but has he just gob a big gob and needs putting in his place? Feel free to tell me I am way off the mark
I hate wading into a serious topic, but no one should have to live like this - the amount of time you've had to put up with it is even worse.
You say that you're in social housing; what's preventing you moving into private rented? Is it a cost issue? (no shame in admitting so, most of the population would struggle to front up a couple of month's rent out of the blue)
I,ve been told by the police after confronting him that I must be the victim or I could be prosecuted.This is the shit state this country is now in.I,m also pissed of that the victim is also expected to move.How about Britains police start facing down the scum!He is of course boro big gobbed scum or as there being referred to online LOMA.Loud mouthed arseholes.
Yes he needs putting in his place.Cleveland Police should be doing that but they don't call aggression crime.Its now referred to as job numbers and incidents.They also don't keep any proper records of calls or meetings.Which will no doubt be useful to them if something goes wrong.Any of you live in a collapsed hole with utterly inadequate authorities?
Thanks for your support and advice.
Can’t believe this is still going on. Have you no means of moving elsewhere. Last resort would be buy him loads of booze and hope he drinks himself to death. You have the patience of a saint.
It sounds like a frikkin nightmare, problem neighbours or being a target is stressful. Move. As soon as possible. What price sanity?
Your choice. Have courage and do right by you.
Write to PCC making formal complaint about local police being, apparently, disinterested; request a meeting with him/her. Do they hold surgeries as MPs do? If so, go to the next one.
Go to local police station, firmly/politely ask to see senior officer on duty and don't leave until you do; don't be fobbed off.
Your housing association appear to be useless; if you escalate within their hierarchy is there a realistic risk of losing your tenancy? That might be a difficult judgement call to make.
It's clear you have been failed by police and housing association.
My best wishes for a speedy and positive resolution.
Seriously, I hope you do get things sorted.
I can not imagine living like you do wondering when someone's going to put my window in or much worse.
It's all well and good to joke, but ffs if you can't feel safe in your own home then where can you feel safe?
In Teesside, chaps, these problems are ten a penny and alot are far far worse.It's a collapsed post industrial town with high levels of poverty and poor education.I,m sure there are thousands of other areas like this in our country.As for my social housing provider they are not useless because they no exactly what there doing.Saving money and bother by doing nothing.I think your all forgetting that bureaucracies have there own agenda.My social housing provider has also told me that verbal abuse is not anti-social behavior.Unless its aimed at them of course.One should always remember the hypocrisy of our self serving masters.
Our labour flunky crime commissioner doesn't deal with procedure only policy.So in this situation(and all others really) he is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
On the plus side I,m not getting any pop ups on this site for the first time in mon🤗